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moDtheGod said:
You literally wrote that men don't care about sexism, which is why I replied how I did.

Apologies for assuming you were a man. That's actually quite sexist of me, ironically.
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Yes, I am a man, I said well done for caring about sexism, so do I.
It's good to have principles.
But, let's be right, there's not a bloke on the planet who would have complained about it if a group of women had observed a man doing something stupid at a football match and said "He should be at home fixing the fence"
We'd have probably agreed and laughed about it

Also, did you notice on one of the Morning TV shows the other day, two women without boyfriends who claim they are single because there aren't any men intelligent enough for them.
NOW THAT IS REAL SEXISM !!!!!!!!!

And what would happen if some bloke whose football team had just lost and was in a particularly narky mood had complained.............NOTHING, that's what.

As you said two wrongs don't make a right, but double standards aren't either.
 
JJBlade said:
But, let's be right, there's not a bloke on the planet who would have complained about it if a group of women had observed a man doing something stupid at a football match and said "He should be at home fixing the fence"
We'd have probably agreed and laughed about it
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Probably, because not many of us are held back because of our gender like some women are. That's a fact. It's not as simple to just look at it from the other side and say 'well men wouldn't be offended' because the situations aren't the same.
 
There’s also sexism regards streakers.

A naked man runs on the pitch and it’s a serious annoyance.
A naked women runs on the pitch and it’s a bit of light entertainment.

Also what about the Bladette cheer leaders?
Maybe there needs to be some men as cheerleaders, like in the tv advert ha ha
 
Hamburg Blade said:
As we're on sexism, I've just seen the macmillan advert - which basically says "you are a woman, you can bake a cake, your female friend can bake a cake, you will have a male boss, your male boss cannot bake a cake and will buy one from a shop" - which is astonishing really, because every other TV advert says women are competent, capable, intelligent, in control, head of the household, married to useless, foolish, laughable men whose children laugh at him.
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ah but that's Ok because the advertisers are targeting a specific demographic for the sake of profit. Edwards is scum cause there's no money to be made from his sexism.
 
Hamburg Blade said:
As we're on sexism, I've just seen the macmillan advert - which basically says "you are a woman, you can bake a cake, your female friend can bake a cake, you will have a male boss, your male boss cannot bake a cake and will buy one from a shop" - which is astonishing really, because every other TV advert says women are competent, capable, intelligent, in control, head of the household, married to useless, foolish, laughable men whose children laugh at him.
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This advert says the same about women does it? ;)

 
BornOnShoreham said:
This advert says the same about women does it? ;)

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Er, yes, mild exageration on my part. Not every other advert, but actually that's more sexism in adverts - washing powder, polish, floor cleaning products, all that stuff is so obviously aimed at women. I suppose they know their market, but are we really still so entrenched that men don't do any of these things? (Adverts aimed at women for tampons I understand, however.)
 



BushBlade said:
... What Keith said didn't particularly offend me but I can see quite easily why my ex-boss, and thousands of other women that have had to deal with inequality on a daily basis, could find it offensive.
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This is it. Basically, if you are at work, if you wouldn't say something to or about a man, don't say it to or about a woman. If you are at work and you wouldn't say something to or about a white person, don't say it to or about a person of colour. It's really not difficult.
 
Can't believe I missed reading this thread until today. Thank fuck Lincoln Blade showed enough fake moral outrage for the both of us.

As a member of our inclusive society I promise to try harder to be outraged by anything and every fucking thing in future.
 
JJBlade said:
Exactly
Women talk about men in the same way,

"He comes in useful, he can reach the top of the private with the hedge strimmer".:eek:
"I could have put air in the tyres, petrol in the car but that's what I've got him for"
And many things they say to their mates are not particular flattering about their husbands/boyfriends, things that men wouldn't say about them.

Loose Women is on TV in the Mornings and it does FUCK ALL ELSE but slag men off from start to finish from what I can see. Could you imagine a programme being allowed on TV where four men sit there and ridicule women constantly.

There is at least three advertisements on TV showing a woman ditching a bloke at the alter, one of them climbs into a helicopter with another bloke...............Sexism, yes definitely, and the reason it's sexist is because if an advert showed a bloke dumping some woman at the alter and pissing off in a helicopter with his fancy piece it would be sexist, so why is it allowed the other way around.

The reason why it's allowed is because it's not a problem, the reason it's not a problem is because men don't care a toss about it.
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;)
 
Sometimes when someone says something naff its best to just say "your humour is out of date and just not funny, try a bit harder next time or don't say it". Someone being told their humour is shite is sometimes enough to stop them doing it again. End of, no further action required. Big fan of Keith though.
 
leichhardtblade said:
This is it. Basically, if you are at work, if you wouldn't say something to or about a man, don't say it to or about a woman. If you are at work and you wouldn't say something to or about a white person, don't say it to or about a person of colour. It's really not difficult.
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He/She is trying to say white ain't a colour !!!
Now I'm really offended...:mad:
 
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Hamburg Blade said:
Er, yes, mild exageration on my part. Not every other advert, but actually that's more sexism in adverts - washing powder, polish, floor cleaning products, all that stuff is so obviously aimed at women. I suppose they know their market, but are we really still so entrenched that men don't do any of these things? (Adverts aimed at women for tampons I understand, however.)
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They do know their market, I would never buy polish unless it is going on my shoes and as for putting smelly stuff in my carpet....i'll save that for my man rug.
 
SteveH said:
Is it time for pictures of boobs now???? :)
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Never been more urgently required.

PS. A few years ago I was told the following story by a lady acquaintance ( further details available on request)

A little girl comes home from school and says to her mum " Mummy, mummy, I've learnt some new words at school today "

Her mum replied " Oh yes dear, and what were they?"

"Well, the first one was penis - what's a penis mummy ?"

"Well, when Daddy comes out of the shower you will have noticed that he has something hanging down at the top of his legs and that's called a penis."

" Oh, right, and what's a cunt mummy?"

"That's the rest of him, dear."

Naturally, I told her in no uncertain terms that I was deeply upset by this story and that I found it grossly offensive both to me and all my fellow male bretheren on Earth. I also told her that I would be writing to both the Guardian and the Jeremy Vine Show on BBC Radio 2 to express my outrage at yet another blatant example of the kind of sexism which women so casually display against males.

Well, actually, I didn't - I laughed like fuck and told her it was as good a joke as I had heard in years and thought no more about it until recently, when all this bollocks about people being 'offended' by the slightest little remark came to the fore.

To them I would say, if that's the most you've got to worry about you must have a pretty good thing going, so why not enjoy while you can. If, by any chance, you can't accept this advice then my alternative one is, do us all a favour and fuck off.
 
Isaw Joeshaw said:
Never been more urgently required.

PS. A few years ago I was told the following story by a lady acquaintance ( further details available on request)

A little girl comes home from school and says to her mum " Mummy, mummy, I've learnt some new words at school today "

Her mum replied " Oh yes dear, and what were they?"

"Well, the first one was penis - what's a penis mummy ?"

"Well, when Daddy comes out of the shower you will have noticed that he has something hanging down at the top of his legs and that's called a penis."

" Oh, right, and what's a cunt mummy?"

"That's the rest of him, dear."

Naturally, I told her in no uncertain terms that I was deeply upset by this story and that I found it grossly offensive both to me and all my fellow male bretheren on Earth. I also told her that I would be writing to both the Guardian and the Jeremy Vine Show on BBC Radio 2 to express my outrage at yet another blatant example of the kind of sexism which women so casually display against males.

Well, actually, I didn't - I laughed like fuck and told her it was as good a joke as I had heard in years and thought no more about it until recently, when all this bollocks about people being 'offended' by the slightest little remark came to the fore.

To them I would say, if that's the most you've got to worry about you must have a pretty good thing going, so why not enjoy while you can. If, by any chance, you can't accept this advice then my alternative one is, do us all a favour and fuck off.
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Generally I'm in agreement that people are far too quick to be offended and once offended make a mountain out of a molehill and come across far too holier-than-thou - I'm also not above an inappropriate joke, or rather these days the humour is in the inappropriateness of the joke rather than the punchline. However, saying all that, I guess you didn't read this, posted earlier:

Danny04 said:
Probably, because not many of us are held back because of our gender like some women are. That's a fact. It's not as simple to just look at it from the other side and say 'well men wouldn't be offended' because the situations aren't the same.
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which, with regards, to your post and your point, is the crux of the matter. If you don't feel you've been oppressed by something, you can laugh at it - no matter how belittling the joke. If you feel your life is a struggle because of something, a joke about it isn't going to seem that funny.
I'm not going to go further than that because I don't want to appear all offended, because I'm not. Keith's joke was not appropriate for public consumption - a mild slip, nothing serious, a quick apology would be fine but even that isn't necessary. I don't think it's a big deal and it's correct that it is only because the pigs lost that someone wanted to make an issue of it.
But I don't think your anecdote is valid.
 
Hamburg Blade said:
Generally I'm in agreement that people are far too quick to be offended and once offended make a mountain out of a molehill and come across far too holier-than-thou - I'm also not above an inappropriate joke, or rather these days the humour is in the inappropriateness of the joke rather than the punchline. However, saying all that, I guess you didn't read this, posted earlier:



which, with regards, to your post and your point, is the crux of the matter. If you don't feel you've been oppressed by something, you can laugh at it - no matter how belittling the joke. If you feel your life is a struggle because of something, a joke about it isn't going to seem that funny.
I'm not going to go further than that because I don't want to appear all offended, because I'm not. Keith's joke was not appropriate for public consumption - a mild slip, nothing serious, a quick apology would be fine but even that isn't necessary. I don't think it's a big deal and it's correct that it is only because the pigs lost that someone wanted to make an issue of it.
But I don't think your anecdote is valid.
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I get the impression you think my post was directed at you personally. I can assure you it was not, nor was it directed at any individual who has posted on this topic.

Rather, it was a general observation on the climate which has evolved in recent times in which some people almost feel it is their duty to be offended by light hearted comments, made with absolutely no malice intended, on a whole range of 'isms', which seem to be growing by the day
 



Isaw Joeshaw said:
Rather, it was a general observation on the climate which has evolved in recent times in which some people almost feel it is their duty to be offended by light hearted comments, made with absolutely no malice intended, on a whole range of 'isms', which seem to be growing by the day
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1. Just because 'no malice was intended' doesn't mean that something isn't offensive.
2. 'People feel it is their duty to be offended'. Somebody pointing out that something is offensive doesn't mean that they are offended by it. They might well feel a duty to point out that it is offensive in the same way that you might feel it's your duty to report another occurrence that you deem to be a genuine problem for society. That seems fair enough to me.
3. Saying that there are more 'isms' misses the point. It doesn't matter how many separate 'isms' there are - the point is that making generalisations about people is unhelpful, no matter what it is based on. I'm sure that there are many generalising statements that cause problems that don't have 'ism' names yet, but it doesn't mean they're not a problem.
 
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