Is there any side set up quite like us?

[Fulwood Blade]

Not breaking the mold, more like scraping it off and starting again.

I should coco will be after you for your spelling of mold

UTB

 

[Groucho Blade]

I should coco will be after you for your spelling of mold

UTB

Ah but the mold you can scrape off can be spelled either way.

 

[Grappler]

It is the other way round. He is a pig ugly Brazilian who thinks he is Spanish.

Looks like the guy who works in my local kebab shop too.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

The team sort of rotates on an axis of Duffy whichever side we attack down



If we’re attacking down the right it becomes something like



-----------------Blackman

Wright-------O’Connell

---------------------------Fleck

---Basham----Coutts---------------------Stevens

Freeman-----------Duffy-----------Sharp

------------------Clarke-



When attacking down the left it becomes









--------------------Blackman



------------------------Basham----------Wright

-------------------Coutts

Freeman------------------------Fleck--------------O’Connell

-----------Clarke-----------Duffy------------------------Stevens

-------------------------------Sharp





If you ‘re looking on your phone. Rotate it 45% either side for each scenario and you come almost back to the 352 we start with. Duffy acts as a fulcrum around which the team rotates. As a result, we effectively play with 2 at the back when we have the ball as one CB is always given the license to bomb on. It really is mesmerizing to watch at times.

Or certainly this has been my perception of what happens in any event. Perhaps Bergen Blade can provide the freeze frame analysis to demonstrate how we set up when JOC or Bash bomb forward?

 

[FlamingLip]

its brilliant. we have defenders who very often appear too attacking minded to be defenders, but a team that is proving brilliant at defending.

frustrations of last night aside, that was one hell of a defensive display. a lot boils down to discipline and having full confidence in your team mates. it helps we haven't got a single nobhead/prima dona in the team. Wilder's player criteria is a vital part to our/his current success.

 

[Stretch]

The team sort of rotates on an axis of Duffy whichever side we attack down



If we’re attacking down the right it becomes something like



-----------------Blackman

Wright-------O’Connell

---------------------------Fleck

---Basham----Coutts---------------------Stevens

Freeman-----------Duffy-----------Sharp

------------------Clarke-



When attacking down the left it becomes









--------------------Blackman



------------------------Basham----------Wright

-------------------Coutts

Freeman------------------------Fleck--------------O’Connell

-----------Clarke-----------Duffy------------------------Stevens

-------------------------------Sharp





If you ‘re looking on your phone. Rotate it 45% either side for each scenario and you come almost back to the 352 we start with. Duffy acts as a fulcrum around which the team rotates. As a result, we effectively play with 2 at the back when we have the ball as one CB is always given the license to bomb on. It really is mesmerizing to watch at times.

Great post that mate, cheers. Agree it is fantastic to watch, now I know why Lol! I can normally only concentrate on a couple of areas of the pitch at once.
Too much alcohol damage me thinks!

 

[I should coco]

I should coco will be after you for your spelling of mold

I've given up. If the good denizens of S10 can't even be arsed, then my crusade is pointless.

Ah but the mold you can scrape off can be spelled either way.

It can in the USA but not here I'm afraid old bean.

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/mould

 

[blade too long]

its all clearer when you study these

 

[I should coco]

its all clearer when you study these

 

[Fulwood Blade]

I've given up. If the good denizens of S10 can't even be arsed, then my crusade is pointless.

I lived in Wath for 15 years for my informative years, so I certainly need some help

UTB

 

[I should coco]

I lived in Wath for 15 years for my informative years, so I certainly need some help

In a similar vein, my academic years were spent at the gentlemen's finishing school known as 'Dinno Comp'.

Much like Eton, Uppingham or Harrow I believe.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Think the time to start worrying is when we start as favourites, we really do enjoy being the underdog

Didn't hinder us last season

 

[snootyfenooty]

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You'd need molds/moulds to hold them!

 

[RMBlade]

This is my guy.

 

[Bergen Blade]

Or certainly this has been my perception of what happens in any event. Perhaps Bergen Blade can provide the freeze frame analysis to demonstrate how we set up when JOC or Bash bomb forward?

It would be easier to do that with a televised game as the EFL games are often zoomed in too much to show what's happening off the ball. But we're definitely trying to be fluid, and all players, bar Wright, have attacking responsibility, they are expected to contribute in creating chances.

In a more rigid set up, 3-5-2 can lack width, having only one out and out wide man on each side. On occasions the wing backs do get on the ball in traditional full backs areas, and - in a rigid set up - there can be a lack of passing options, certainly down their side. A punt down the channell for a striker to chase can be an option, but we're trying to add extra width from an overlapping wide centre back.

Which happens on this photo:


Lafferty is on the ball, closed down by Bolton's right wing back Little. Duffy and O'Connell run into the space behind Little, where we have a good chance of doubling up on a player filling in (a midfielder, or their right sided centre half). On this occasion Duffy got the ball and chose to cut inside, but the situation shows how we try to create two against one situations, through good movement and neat passing.

On situations like these I'm sure our right sided centre half is instructed to hold back, while Coutts will also be reluctant to go forward. On occasions we do look a bit vulnerable, but we do work very hard after losing possession and most often get away with it.

 

[Aston max]

I remember Wilder dismissing the reduction of a midfielder's role - what he said was that a player is a midfielder, therefore why restrict yourself to one measly part of your role as a footballer? Thus we have centre halves doing something we're not accustomed to. It's nice to see grown men, obviously possessed of skill and ability, doing something unorthodox.

I recall an author - Bernard Shaw I think - whose character commented something to the effect - "Some people ask why? I ask, why not?"

I think this captures Wilder's combination of the practical with the possible, so why not try this, that, or whatever, as long as there's discipline enabling positions to be covered we can attack in whatever way is comfortable for the players.

You can have a like just for the quote

 

[fatpat]

I think you might need to replace “Wilder” with “Knill” in that post. Otherwise I agree. Wilder has talked about not liking tactics being quoted as saying “Knilly likes tactics”. I suspect he is the true mastermind behind the incredible fluidity with which we play. I think Wilder is the personality that puts the fire in their bellies and gives them that extra 10 percent making what we see even better.

This is a popular view. However at the evening with the champions event 'knill was very clear that it was wilder who decided unilaterally on the change to 3 at the back. I believe wilder knows exactly how he wants his team to play and identifies individuals who fit in to that plan. I am sure knill works on lots of details such as when to go and when to sit etc, but I do think wilder is very much in charge.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Following the 70's Dutch total football philosophy. Any player can play in any position with style.

 

[Berlin Blade]

The team sort of rotates on an axis of Duffy whichever side we attack down



If we’re attacking down the right it becomes something like



-----------------Blackman

Wright-------O’Connell

---------------------------Fleck

---Basham----Coutts---------------------Stevens

Freeman-----------Duffy-----------Sharp

------------------Clarke-



When attacking down the left it becomes









--------------------Blackman



------------------------Basham----------Wright

-------------------Coutts

Freeman------------------------Fleck--------------O’Connell

-----------Clarke-----------Duffy------------------------Stevens

-------------------------------Sharp





If you ‘re looking on your phone. Rotate it 45% either side for each scenario and you come almost back to the 352 we start with. Duffy acts as a fulcrum around which the team rotates. As a result, we effectively play with 2 at the back when we have the ball as one CB is always given the license to bomb on. It really is mesmerizing to watch at times.

As usual, agree with your thoughts Dane. Just shows how important Duffman is for us. While Brooks looks like a talent with his individual skill and ball control and flair, 90% of Duffy's job is done in his head and comes as a result of his experience. Brooks looks great when on the break though using his pace, which is something Duffy can't boast for the same reason! I don't think anyone else in our squad could play Duffy's role. Great balance in the two of those and such a good problem for Wilder to have. Can everyone remember when we didn't have any good players at all about 18 months ago? Now we've got too many!

In terms of our overall play, I was trying to put my finger on why we're so good to watch during the Sunderland game. I think it's largely down to the urgency and intent we play with. The players all look so focused when they're playing. It's urgent but it's never sloppy. They don't set up to draw games. I don't think Wilder specifically targets promotion, but we play like we have the objective to get three points in EVERY game so the target is 138 points. I've genuinely not seen a team like this in a long time. Something special is happening at the lane.

 

[Bellypork]

At ease, everybody. The question is, will Eutuftio (Lol) change formation when he visits Hillsborough? I mean, the Owls play well against teams who play open attacking football. A bedtime thought...

 

[coaxingstar71]

There were a couple of incidents during the Derby game that highlighted the fluidity, work ethic and teamwork of the players.

1. Duffy took a free kick from our left hand side of their area, a few seconds after the ball had gone into the box, Derby broke down our right hand flank. Duffy was the player who covered the right back position and defended the danger.
2. Most will remember the other, which was when Vydra broke away only to be brilliantly caught by Fleck covering his defenders by tracking Vydra.

 

[wizadry]

Yes but last season we were told early on that teams would find us out, they didn't, or couldn't, was told in the summer yes but you wont be able to play like that in the championship, well we will see, not doing too bad at the moment though, are we?

If the teams do find us out or whatever bollocks the pigs speak then CW has shown he can adapt in any given situation so I'm not bothered in the slightest, the pigs on the other hand are absolutely shitting it.

 

[Punk Blade]

will Eutuftio (Lol) change formation when he visits Hillsborough?

No.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

In theory, the response to nullify this would be our opponents playing 4-2-3-1 with the wide players pushed right up on the wing-backs, but so far I haven't seen anyone execute this against us.

It was fun while it lasted.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

There were a couple of incidents during the Derby game that highlighted the fluidity, work ethic and teamwork of the players.

1. Duffy took a free kick from our left hand side of their area, a few seconds after the ball had gone into the box, Derby broke down our right hand flank. Duffy was the player who covered the right back position and defended the danger.
2. Most will remember the other, which was when Vydra broke away only to be brilliantly caught by Fleck covering his defenders by tracking Vydra.

I think it's one reason why we have no 'stars' in the team - no individual saves their energy for the eye-catching moment, they all muck in and do the less glamorous work. And it also means we have no 'villains'; any player who makes a mistake is helped out by a colleague, rather than given a bollocking. The team ethic is fundamental, and can take group of good players a long way. Ironically, the team ethic has come from one individual, standing on the touch line.

 

[Slim Man]

At ease, everybody. The question is, will Eutuftio (Lol) change formation when he visits Hillsborough? I mean, the Owls play well against teams who play open attacking football. A bedtime thought...

No they don't, that's a myth.
We need to keep on doing what we're doing and ask their dodgy full backs some questions. A 4-4-2 if they play that will suit us down to the ground.

 

[Blend-it-like-Harris]

Jeez - I hope opposition managers and coaches don't read this forum. With luck they'll think that the majority of football fans don't really have a clue, and that all football managers beat them hands down when it comes to the technicalities. Having looked at other fan forums I have to agree with that sentiment; generally they do seem to lack a certain level of intelligence. However, fans on this site seem a cut above, and I am being objective..... honest!
My first observation about you lot when I first migrated from Blades Mad, was that I chuckled much more at the wit and the banter; all fun stuff that you get on other forums, but more considered, and spiced-up with generous toppings of distinctly local South Yorkshire, and in particular, Sheffield humour.
BUT - when it comes to analysis of the game, and match evaluation and summary, I have not seen anything to "match" the level of intelligence shown on this great site of ours. Have any of you EVER seen match-day reporting ANYWHERE to equal those of DEADBAT??
Have a hunt around any other football fan forum in the entire football league; I challenge you to point me in the direction of just 1 that comes close to this one.
Apart from Deadbat, there are plenty of examples elsewhere, on this thread alone, to convince me that the Blades are the best. I'm not showing bias here am I?
As for a simple answer to the question posed on this thread... the answer is "No".
For a short and simple evaluation of the way we play.... the Dutch used to call it "Total Football".

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

Jeez - I hope opposition managers and coaches don't read this forum.

No need to worry - they probably wouldn't get past the endless pictures of young ladies on the Ryan Leonard thread.

 

[Bellypork]

But the brand of football Tufty plays ironically is the only type Carlos really understands. It's the stiflers and bus-parkers he struggles against. Allowing Wednesday to play as a team, rather than forcing their individual players to conjure something up, doesn't make sense. Wildervoetbal plays into Wednesday's hands, surely.

 

[Harrisblade]

But the brand of football Tufty plays ironically is the only type Carlos really understands. It's the stiflers and bus-parkers he struggles against. Allowing Wednesday to play as a team, rather than forcing their individual players to conjure something up, doesn't make sense. Wildervoetbal plays into Wednesday's hands, surely.

Well, apart from the fact that each of the Wednesday players WILL have to conjure something up if we play our usual pressing game!