Blades should give thanks to the McCabes

[pommpey]

You clearly do not know how things work Pete on this forum

Yeah. Autolikes galore for your chums, innit?

Nowt much to say about anything though.

pommpey

 

[PeteBlade]

And in Made In Sheffield, I think there's a different version of this.

Do you not think the outcome of him announcing his resignation rather than him being announced as sacked with be mutually beneficial for SUFC and NW?

Let me put it another way. Do you think NW would have wanted to carry on as manager of SUFC after we were relegated?

pommpey

You think? You're always badgering others for black and white facts. I've just shown you direct quotes from the man himself. If you have another version (that isn't made up by you) please share it.

I don't think he wanted to, no. He said at the time the fans would be on his back if he lost the first couple of games, and he's right, they would. He also said Sean Bean had had.a go at him after relegation, which would have bruised his ego. He'd taken us as far as he could in his mind.

 

[pommpey]

You think? You're always badgering others for black and white facts. I've just shown you direct quotes from the man himself. If you have another version (that isn't made up by you) please share it.

I don't think he wanted to know, he said at the time the fans would be on his back if he lost the first couple of games, and he's right, they would. He also said Sean Bean had had.a go at him after relegation, which would have bruised his ego. He'd taken us as far as he could in his mind.

As said, I don't have the book to hand, but recall when I read it that the situation between him and McCabe was a lot different from the 'amicable split' situation you describe.

Why do you think that, even in our darkest hours when we've been need of someone like Warnock to come and steady the ship and the consensus has been there for him to come, he isn't even in the frame?

The Sean Bean thing was pathetic. Bean should have backed the fuck off.

pommpey

 

[Bert]

Its great watching my detractors disappear up their own well-fucked farters

They've all left you to it because they find your obsessive rants incredibly boring.

 

[blade too long]

So, 'money's been put in'. Never mind where, or how.

pommpey

mccabes job is to run the club
hes got the ground to this

he is responsible for picking the managers , not the results , thats their remit
has he picked some duffers , yes , but all are punts
we slag off what robson did
but he had success elsewhere . who knows why
adkins superb at scunthorpe , useless cunt with us
whos to know why
what mccabe does for this club is take us forward , attract the crowds in a nice stadium at decent prices
he does not sign hammonds or mcnultys
but hes given every manager some support , if they fail, its their own faults

 

[Sean Thornton]

So, 'money's been put in'. Never mind where, or how. Just be satisfied that the anointed one has put money in. Doesn't matter about the football team, any weak areas we might have. Forget about SUFC as eleven players out there every weekend. It's been put in. Nothing to see. Run along. I see now. Blue pill. Take the blue pill. Take it.



Oh! *dabs*

A Naval analogy, dressed up as a mild insult, to reinforce a vanishing point. Well done, you!



Again, ,drop of the shoulder, bob/weave and Sean Thornton is away. Running away from my question which is:

'Show me where £41m has been spent on the football team, please.'

Just like:

'Prove that the Desso has had some sort of claimed wondrous effect when we were beaten on it and won away on cowfields.'

and

'Please tell us what the transfer budget is.'

Its great watching my detractors disappear up their own well-fucked farters when faced with stuff they have to account for, laid bare by things they have said or claim is the truth. I'd rather they just come up with the goods and prove me wrong. Unfortunately, it isn't the case, much of the time. It's either slaver or ad hominem, or smoke and mirrors.

pommpey

 

[PeteBlade]

As said, I don't have the book to hand, but recall when I read it that the situation between him and McCabe was a lot different from the 'amicable split' situation you describe.

Why do you think that, even in our darkest hours when we've been need of someone like Warnock to come and steady the ship and the consensus has been there for him to come, he isn't even in the frame?

The Sean Bean thing was pathetic. Bean should have backed the fuck off.

pommpey

So on one side we've got all the evidence that says he resigned including the various media reports, the press conference and Warnock himself saying he resigned.

On the other side we've got you 'thinking' he was sacked because of something you may have read in his book that you can't produce.

Think we'll stick with resigned then.

There could be many reasons why he never came back. They clearly fell out. He talked about wanting to be able to watch football on the kop with his son. His massive ego.

I ageee that Sean Bean was bang out of order.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Don't know what news outlets you have been watching 1771, but KJUs latest tests of her Hwasong 12 and Hwasong 14 launch vehicles have reached targets well beyond the Japanese mainland and launched at such trajectories that if profiled accordingly, the West Coast of the USA and much of Northern Europe is within it's range and will be ready 'by early 2018'. They also have a rudimentary delivery capsule developed for a Hydrogen based thermonuclear warhead, which kinda boots your analogy of 'hastily cobbled together/doesn't know if will work' into a low-earth orbit.

A global conflict between two knowledgeable, capable theatre-states becomes ever more likely when daft-arsed bit part actors get themselves in the debate involved with their incessant irrelevant chirruping. If you see what I mean, like.

pommpey

Most interesting post you've ever made but like all the others I don't have a clue why you're going on about it at length so it's probably bullshit like all the others.

 

[pommpey]

They've all left you to it because they find your obsessive rants incredibly boring.

pommpey

 

[pommpey]

Most interesting post you've ever made but like all the others I don't have a clue why you're going on about it at length so it's probably bullshit like all the others.

Well, I was trying to set the record straight for someone who is clearly ... not ... all ... there.

Strange how all the oddbins and micmacs all congregate round you in debates like this, innit?

pommpey

 

[pommpey]

So on one side we've got all the evidence that says he resigned including the various media reports, the press conference and Warnock himself saying he resigned.

On the other side we've got you 'thinking' he was sacked because of something you may have read in his book that you can't produce.

Think we'll stick with resigned then.

There could be many reasons why he never came back. They clearly fell out. He talked about wanting to be able to watch football on the kop with his son. His massive ego.

I ageee that Sean Bean was bang out of order.

Yeah, I suppose if I can't find the book I once read, the truth lies with your account. That's how it works, isn't it?

pommpey

 

[PeteBlade]

Yeah, I suppose if I can't find the book I once read, the truth lies with your account. That's how it works, isn't it?

pommpey

No, you've made a claim that doesn't match any of the evidence and hasn't been backed by anything other than something you 'think' you read, which, miraculously, fits in with your McCabe agenda.

The truth lies with all the evidence, including actual words from Warnock himself claiming he decided to leave, until someone can prove otherwise.

That's actually how it works with most grown ups.

 

[Pedro's Winger]

Someone else who can't grasp why we didn't go bust but has a handle on all the clubs financials. It would "appear".

Pommpey, tell him, there's a good chap .

McCabe stopped us going bust, I've no problem with that.
I just said it wouldn't have made much difference if we had and we may well have ended up with more investment from different owners if we had.
A lot of the debt was down to his own poor management so I'm not sure it's a major feather in his cap to take responsibility for his own cock-ups.

 

[pommpey]

mccabes job is to run the club
hes got the ground to this
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Hold on. Much of that was put up between 1966 (Bramall Lane End) and 1996 (John Street) wasn't it?

I mean, McCabe only put the hotel, the BL extension and the kop corner in during his time, didn't he? Oh, hang on .... and THE DESSO!

Anyone would think he'd levelled the place close season and got his brickie gear out.

he is responsible for picking the managers , not the results , thats their remit

Yeah, y'see. One begets the other. That's how it works. And the managers can't make shit players suddenly good. Which is why Wilder ditched players like Flynn, for example.

has he picked some duffers , yes , but all are punts

Is that a typo?

we slag off what robson did
but he had success elsewhere . who knows why

Did he? In which bar?

adkins superb at scunthorpe , useless cunt with us
whos to know why

McCabe, maybe?

what mccabe does for this club is take us forward , attract the crowds in a nice stadium at decent prices

Yeah? Explain 2008-2017, please.

he does not sign hammonds or mcnultys

But he signs the cheques to sign them. Undiclosed, of course.

but hes given every manager some support , if they fail, its their own faults

So not McCabes then? For hiring them in the first place? Then sacking them at cost, like David Weir?

pommpey

 

[pommpey]

No, you've made a claim that doesn't match any of the evidence and hasn't been backed by anything other than something you 'think' you read, which, miraculously, fits in with your McCabe agenda.

The truth lies with all the evidence, including actual words from Warnock himself claiming he decided to leave, until someone can prove otherwise.

That's actually how it works with most grown ups.

Have you read the book?

pommpey

 

[Sean Thornton]

So on one side we've got all the evidence that says he resigned including the various media reports, the press conference and Warnock himself saying he resigned.

On the other side we've got you 'thinking' he was sacked because of something you may have read in his book that you can't produce.

Think we'll stick with resigned then.

There could be many reasons why he never came back. They clearly fell out. He talked about wanting to be able to watch football on the kop with his son. His massive ego.

I ageee that Sean Bean was bang out of order.

I can clearly see the words "amicable split" that you used in flashing red lights in your post. Along with lots of other words that clearly shows that's what you meant.



Actually I made that up. Not the first person to do so on this thread either. It's catching. Shit big word fart defacate big word big word, sigh ad hominem.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Well, I was trying to set the record straight for someone who is clearly ... not ... all ... there.

Strange how all the oddbins and micmacs all congregate round you in debates like this, innit?

pommpey

You're here.

 

[Pedro's Winger]

We can't still be arguing about whether Warnock was sacked or not, 10 years on?
He burnt his bridges with McCabe after touting himself to Portsmouth and it wasn't a surprise when McCabe eventually showed him the door.
You can dance around the technicalities but he wasn't wanted and was 'sacked' in the general sense of the word.

 

[PeteBlade]

Have you read the book?

pommpey

No I haven't.

Why do you think your claim is as valid as all the actual evidence including words from the man himself?

If you find any proof of the claim you've made, come back to me and provide it. I'll happy to admit if I'm wrong. You?

 

[Sean Thornton]

McCabe stopped us going bust, I've no problem with that.
I just said it wouldn't have made much difference if we had and we may well have ended up with more investment from different owners if we had.
A lot of the debt was down to his own poor management so I'm not sure it's a major feather in his cap to take responsibility for his own cock-ups.

Of course the debt situation lies with his decisions but we were never going bust with him in charge. Which was my point.

 

[Tyler Durden]

200 post thread coming right up.

YES, GET IN!

 

[Constantly Optimistic...]

Anyway, putting the rants aside and trying to put the thread back on track, I must admit I am a McCabe convert. No one more than me thought he (they) were leading the club into murky waters. However, time has passed, and his conviction to stick with the club and put in cash, provide stability and end up with a manager, captain and now a team full of blades who have brought us back to our roots of committed good pressing, good quality football, that we as fans are all proud to be associated with is more than commendable. Sorry for the long sentence! The laudable excitement on this forum is testament to this. For many years we have been in the doldrums, now it is an absolute pleasure and delight to be a Blade. Thank you McCabe(s).

 

[Sean Thornton]

No I haven't.

Why do you think your claim is as valid as all the actual evidence including words from the man himself?

If you find any proof of the claim you've made, come back to me and provide it. I'll happy to admit if I'm wrong. You?

You'll accept Warnocks autobiography as proof over recorded press conferences and media interviews Pete!

You've fallen under his spell, someone get the antidote, one drop of McCabes blood and a piece of the Desso. To be taken internally....

 

[PeteBlade]

You'll accept Warnocks autobiography as proof over recorded press conferences and media interviews Pete!

You've fallen under his spell, someone get the antidote, one drop of McCabes blood and a piece of the Desso. To be taken internally....

I'm just asking him for the proof he'd be asking of others if they'd made a claim that showed McCabe in a good light !

 

[pommpey]

No I haven't.

So you're not aware of the content, at all? Yet you claim to be right. Okay.

Why do you think your claim is as valid as all the actual evidence including words from the man himself?

If you find any proof of the claim you've made, come back to me and provide it. I'll happy to admit if I'm wrong. You?

Go read the book, whydontcha. It's hilarious and Partridge and much of what you'd expect. But his departure wasn't anything like a resignation. You have admitted he wouldn't have left and would have stayed on. His contract wasn't renewed. So what is that, then, even if he does submit a face-saving resignation speech which anyone with half-a-brain could read through?

Good choice on the replacement though.

pommpey

 

[Sean Thornton]

I'm just asking him for the proof he'd be asking of others if they'd made a claim that showed McCabe in a good light !

Rather a waste of time I fear. He seems petrified of anything in print.

 

[pommpey]

I'm just asking him for the proof he'd be asking of others if they'd made a claim that showed McCabe in a good light !

Well, the book isn't available on the internet, and I don't have a copy any more. Go read it.

pommpey

 

[pommpey]

Rather a waste of time I fear. He seems petrified of anything in print.

And you still don't like answering questions about the £41m. I'm not letting that go, now your possee has arrived in town.

pommpey

 

[PeteBlade]

So you're not aware of the content, at all? Yet you claim to be right. Okay.



Go read the book, whydontcha. It's hilarious and Partridge and much of what you'd expect. But his departure wasn't anything like a resignation. You have admitted he wouldn't have left and would have stayed on. His contract wasn't renewed. So what is that, then, even if he does submit a face-saving resignation speech which anyone with half-a-brain could read through?

Good choice on the replacement though.

pommpey

What is it about this that you can't seem to grasp? "I'M" not claiming to be right, ALL of the evidence is pointing that way.

There's literally NOTHING to suggest he was sacked, as you've suggested.

The news reports, the interviews, WARNOCK HIMSELF!

I ask again, feel free to provide something, anything that backs up this claim.

 

[PeteBlade]

Well, the book isn't available on the internet, and I don't have a copy any more. Go read it.

pommpey

I don't need to, I'm not the one making claims I can't back up.

I've backed mine up.