Ched on fire!!!!

[SotonBlade]

Lets just calm down. He's played less than 45mins in front of one man and his dog against a L1 side.

He didn't even make the bench on Saturday. He's a long way yet from starting in the Championship against the likes of Villa and Boro. If he starts 3 consecutive games this season and gets 5 league goals i'll be surprised.

 

[Wards]

He was certainly the best striker on the pitch but there wasn't much competition in that department. Hanson and Lavery look like division 3 footballers to me all said and done. Hope they can prove me wrong but I think they'll struggle with the step up.

Ched didn't look fit and understandably so but produced some spark. Exactly what Wilder would've wanted.

 

[sheffielder]

He was certainly the best striker on the pitch but there wasn't much competition in that department. Hanson and Lavery look like division 3 footballers to me all said and done. Hope they can prove me wrong but I think they'll struggle with the step up.

Ched didn't look fit and understandably so but produced some spark. Exactly what Wilder would've wanted.

I think Mellor had a good point on Sky last night. yes, everyone wants a game but they want to be playing with the 1st team. When the 2nd 11 goes out they often struggle to get a rhythm. That being said Hanson and Lavery may have looked like div3 footballers but they were playing against div3 footballers. They should be doing better.

 

[SB_90]

I feel for you Foxy it was reason I hoped he went elsewhere, nothing against him & from last night he stll looked a good player but for the last 5 years mentioning him either in person social media or this forum, every time his name is brought up he always brings anger & arguments. wanted another team to be lumbered with that baggage

 

[derfblade.3]

I feel for you Foxy it was reason I hoped he went elsewhere, nothing against him & from last night he stll looked a good player but for the last 5 years mentioning him either in person social media or this forum, every time his name is brought up he always brings anger & arguments. wanted another team to be lumbered with that baggage

The anger and arguments only come from the pricks who wont let it go. He is a footballer who plays for us. Talking about his fitness and performances should not be a problem.

 

[Bladepicker]

Lets just calm down. He's played less than 45mins in front of one man and his dog against a L1 side.

He didn't even make the bench on Saturday. He's a long way yet from starting in the Championship against the likes of Villa and Boro. If he starts 3 consecutive games this season and gets 5 league goals i'll be surprised.

NBW

 

[LSF]

Evans satisfied the questions within me last night.
Has he lost what he had? Nope! It's still there, without doubt, regardless of opposition, competition etc.

His popularity with the large majority? Still there, his introduction to the field was testimony to that. His 'goal' (or not) was greeted with special cheer. Of course there will always be the bitter minority who resent the lad making the most of this second chance, fuck em I say..

If he can stay reasonably injury free ( he looks very fit, strong and sharp), then I reckon we've got some enjoyment to come ( well most of us anyway )

 

[AWetFlannel]

Shame there's a few so called Blades on here who can't bring themselves to share this historic moment.

Historic?

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Why do people keep thinking Evans will be a world beater in the championship....he wasn't before his mishap and he certainly won't be after......I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it....bit part player at best

I've never heard anyone claim that Evans will be a world beater in the Championship. What I have heard is some people think he's a talented footballer who is worth giving a chance to, considering that we've got him for peanuts. You say he will be a "bit-part" player at best? He has played for his country, played for Man City in Europe, scored 10 goals in 28 games for Norwich City in the Championship a few years ago and was highly rated by their fans and was simply unplayable in his last season for us, scoring 35 goals. The pedigree is there. It is not in question - well, maybe only to complete idiots or those with some purported moral axe to grind.

The question is about his fitness and whether he can ever regain the sort of form that made him, in my humble opinion, the best centre forward I've seen playing for Sheffield United in almost 50 years. We don't know the answer to that yet. None of us do. But some of us think that there's absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain by giving him the opportunity.

And others listen to idiotic presenters on local radio stations who generate absolute nonsense like "he's not done it in the Championship before" and they copy them like parrots and repeat it, without ever stopping to look at the levels at which this guy has proven himself capable of playing at.

 

[Bladepicker]

It's never been about his ability for me - it is about his fitness. Anyone who saw his performance against is for Chesterfield will know he still has ability. However, also for those who watched that match, the big question mark is over his fitness.

Last night was great to see him playing well, it was great that we won and it's great that it has allowed WalthamstowBlade to have a bit of fun with you all - but it answers no questions about Ched's fitness long term. It's not anti United or anti Ched to state that.

 

[Darthblade]

To put this "argument" into some perspective ...... and I can confirm that I was at the game ...... until Mr Evans came on we were going out of the cup.

This may not be season changing but it would have been a lost opportunity to give fringe players 90 mins competitive game time in the future which is really useful.

Evans came on, worked reasonably hard whilst looking like he wasn't match fit yet ( not surprising with recent minor injury niggles). Looked strong, challenged and chased as much as the next man.

He did hold the ball well, made some intelligent lay-offs and passes, assisted in a goal with a clever cut back in the box and scored a good goal ( despite a deflection) exhibiting good technique with the shot. (how many times have you seen our strikers put that type of chance into row z !!)

Is he ready for the first 11 yet ..... no, hes not match fit or sharp enough. Is he ready for the first team bench yet ...... maybe / maybe not ...... we don't see him in training so can't assess his sharpness / fitness at first team level.

But imho, having seen his performance last night, if he can shake off the injury niggles and get fully match fit over the next month or so ....... he will certainly be an asset on the bench and will push Sharp & Clarke for certain.

Cut to the chase ...... he was more effective than Hanson & Lavery and Tufty was pleased with his impact. I'm happy with that.

First steps and all that ......

UTB & FTP

 

[Cerberus Blade]

The hysteria on both sides is so tiring. He came on tonight and contributed (no goals, technically). What frustrates me the most is the extremes of cheering him more than any other player, saying he's been 'brilliant' and all this other over the top madness.

Don't take it away from him tonight, the game changed when he came on and that's great. Why aren't people posting threads saying how fantastic Nathan Thomas is and voting him MOM?

Whether Evans turns out good or not, I am not looking forward to the journey where half of the fans will overhype every little thing he does, and the other half will condemn any mistake or lacklustre performance he has. Can we please just treat him like any other player? No. We can't. That's why I dislike the fact he has re-signed for us!

I totally get what you're saying there mate - it's absolutely what will happen, no doubt about it. But if you don't like over-hyping of players and over-condemning of players, you're watching the wrong sport. That's football. It's always been like that and it will never be any different, whether it's Ched Evans, or somebody else.

It's likely to be even more so with Ched because many of us feel highly charged emotionally about the way the lad lost a huge chunk of his life and almost lost his career. For some, seeing Ched in United colours and scoring goals again is like divine retribution. It's the greatest thing we could have hoped and wished for. For others it's unpalatable that we've re-employed someone who they feel is a social pariah at the very least.

For me, all I care about is seeing Sheffield United play well and be successful. And that's down to having good players (good manager, etc). I think Evans was a good player. A very good player. I think he could be a very good player again. If he achieves that, I couldn't give a flying toss about the idiots who revere him like a God, or condemn him like a Devil. It won't spoil my enjoyment of watching Sheffield United one iota.

 

[Liverpool blade]

Evans satisfied the questions within me last night.
Has he lost what he had? Nope! It's still there, without doubt, regardless of opposition, competition etc.

His popularity with the large majority? Still there, his introduction to the field was testimony to that. His 'goal' (or not) was greeted with special cheer. Of course there will always be the bitter minority who resent the lad making the most of this second chance, fuck em I say..

If he can stay reasonably injury free ( he looks very fit, strong and sharp), then I reckon we've got some enjoyment to come ( well most of us anyway )

Couldn't agree more. I wasn't able to attend last night but a friend said that he looked good on the ball. I M O.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Couldn't agree more. I wasn't able to attend last night but a friend said that he looked good on the ball. I M O.

That's the bottom line, he looked pretty good, with odd flashes of looking very good.
Some posters rightly say that looking at the facts that's nothing to get so excited about, so he's being hyped up already.

This is true, he wasn't brilliant last night and he played against weak league 1 opposition (although Walsall were at full strength).

However let's look at the context of the performance.
Many experts said he would be a poor signing because having 4 years out of the game means you can never recover what you had.
They said he was poor last season (Chesterfield) in a team that wasn't even good enough at league 1 standard.

So the big issue was Ched played last night with loads of doubters in the stadium.
I was a doubter because I kept an open mind and accepted he could be finished but suspected Wilder might know what he's doing.

Well based on last night Ched clearly still has some quality and hasn't lost it. It also looked like he still has his pace and strength too.
He changed the game. We looked a better side and more of a threat after he came on.

And the exciting thing is that logic suggests that Ched should improve greatly once he finds his full fitness and sharpness.
And if he does that we should have a player able to contribute well at Championship level, making United a better team.

Remember it's about United being better, couldn't care less about Ched really.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

He didn't score. His shot was good but was deflected in. He provided a very good pass to a team-mate to score. He managed to start part of a game and finish it. He has played part of a game against a League 1 side who are not going to trouble their playoff places this season. Get real ffs. Lets see how he gets on. Its almost embarrassing some people wetting themselves as they are. Have a wank in November if he has a regular starting spot and is on a goal per two games.

Last time he was here, Ched was a very special player for us. The season he had, you only see that sort of a season from a player maybe once every 10-20 years such was his dominance over the division. You can’t blame people for getting excited at the prospect of that level of performance returning looking a bit more plausible than it did prior to last night. Baby steps but a very pleasing one all the same. Still big question marks over his fitness longer term but he’s demonstrated he still has ability, still has that excellent technique and is determined to make a success of things here. Let’s just hope his body allows him to do it.

 

[SB_90]

The anger and arguments only come from the pricks who wont let it go. He is a footballer who plays for us. Talking about his fitness and performances should not be a problem.

but what i dislike about the long running saga you got to respect other people opinions. that their opinion & theyve got the right to express that opinion as anyone else. as i say 1 of things i dont like is the ganging up/peer pressure from a section of utd fans. because how dare anyone have a different opinion. if anyone dare critical of ched. you get hoards of people abusing that person & then tell to not turn up at bramall lane as your not a fan

we are not donald trump. we are supposed to be civilised but Ched has Always brought worse in everyone

 

[Sheffsteel]

but what i dislike about the long running saga you got to respect other people opinions. that their opinion & theyve got the right to express that opinion as anyone else. as i say 1 of things i dont like is the ganging up/peer pressure from a section of utd fans. because how dare anyone have a different opinion. if anyone dare critical of ched. you get hoards of people abusing that person & then tell to not turn up at bramall lane as your not a fan

we are not donald trump. we are supposed to be civilised but Ched has Always brought worse in everyone

But this supposed to be a football forum and it seems some people want to keep talking about non football stuff relating to Ched.
There is an arguement that the main thread be censored so that's its FOOTBALL only

And if anyone wants to rake over old news, peer pressures, discuss morals etc then that can be discussed in the NON FOOTBALL section.

There has been plenty of bullying and adverse publicity towards Ched
but as he's been found not guilty (in a country where you're innocent until proven guilty) then he deserves a chance and where better to be at the club where he was unfairly denied his chance. But to be honest it's all irrelevant. He's plays for United and some people (including me) believe he could be our best striker that will help us gain success. In that 2012 season he was the best striker I've seen at BL since Brian Deane, better than Jordan Rhodes and look where JR is now.

 

[Darlington82]

I have only seen the highlights and though I was not over the moon at his signing, due to the shit people bring up. He is innocent and deserves our support.

The reason I am excited is, ched is 'potentially' the only player who has that something special 'aka Deane' to get us promotion. Juwest

 

[Darlington82]

Bloody fat fingers.

Let's give him time to get his fitness and touch and cross our figures and enjoy the ride.

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

Lets just calm down. He's played less than 45mins in front of one man and his dog against a L1 side.

He didn't even make the bench on Saturday. He's a long way yet from starting in the Championship against the likes of Villa and Boro. If he starts 3 consecutive games this season and gets 5 league goals i'll be surprised.

... then I think you are in for a surprise.

"The introduction of Ched gave us a massive lift " ... Tufty's word's, not mine. That'll do for me.

PS. I can't believe the number of " he looked better than Hanson" comments. Now, there's a surprise.

 

[DronnieBlade]

... then I think you are in for a surprise.

"The introduction of Ched gave us a massive lift " ... Tufty's word's, not mine. That'll do for me.

PS. I can't believe the number of " he looked better than Hanson" comments. Now, there's a surprise.

And that is another valid point, as we offered nothing offensively till coop boy came off. The difference from this point onwards was clearly visible to all in attendance.

UTB

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

 

[SB_90]

I totally get what you're saying there mate - it's absolutely what will happen, no doubt about it. But if you don't like over-hyping of players and over-condemning of players, you're watching the wrong sport. That's football. It's always been like that and it will never be any different, whether it's Ched Evans, or somebody else.

It's likely to be even more so with Ched because many of us feel highly charged emotionally about the way the lad lost a huge chunk of his life and almost lost his career. For some, seeing Ched in United colours and scoring goals again is like divine retribution. It's the greatest thing we could have hoped and wished for. For others it's unpalatable that we've re-employed someone who they feel is a social pariah at the very least.

For me, all I care about is seeing Sheffield United play well and be successful. And that's down to having good players (good manager, etc). I think Evans was a good player. A very good player. I think he could be a very good player again. If he achieves that, I couldn't give a flying toss about the idiots who revere him like a God, or condemn him like a Devil. It won't spoil my enjoyment of watching Sheffield United one iota.

can i just say that is probally the best post about ched i have heard in the many years of saga. summed it all up absoultely perfect

 

[Torrix1889]

No doubt the substitution changed the game but although Ched did ok I don't think he was fantastic! Having said that he did more in 40 minutes than Lavery did in the 90...which was concerning....if there's only one place on the bench for a striker tomorrow then it must be Ched.