McCabe Comments

[Boxer Blade]

One of my pet hates is celebs and especially politicians who 'support' teams afterwards. If a local MP was a pig before they were elected, then I can cope with that. What I detest is the association with a local club to show a link with 'the people'. Blair's talk of watching Jackie Milburn was particularly cringeworthy, hence my dislike for Corbyn (and BTW I've generally been a Labour voter). FFS living in Islington and supporting Arsenal does not make you a champion of the oppressed proletariat! I'd be very interested to hear about his first game and how many games per season he makes.

Football was unfashionable in the 80s and I don't remember any local MPs talking about United. Suddenly when the Premier League comes along, Caborn is a 'big Blade' (in the free seats of course). I could be wrong here and maybe someone will say they sat next to him against Port Vale n 1999, but somehow I doubt it.

They are all in it for what they can get. Some of them happen to do a decent job, but 'friends of the working class', they are not. Just look at the absurd generousity of the MP's pension scheme. If an MP joins the long queues at 2.50 on Shoreham Street then fair play but I have to say that is not my experience.

Any other 'Blade MPs' we can "out"?

That was my son but can't say too much as its in the hands of my solicitor

 

[Pinchy]

One of my pet hates is celebs and especially politicians who 'support' teams afterwards. If a local MP was a pig before they were elected, then I can cope with that. What I detest is the association with a local club to show a link with 'the people'. Blair's talk of watching Jackie Milburn was particularly cringeworthy, hence my dislike for Corbyn (and BTW I've generally been a Labour voter). FFS living in Islington and supporting Arsenal does not make you a champion of the oppressed proletariat! I'd be very interested to hear about his first game and how many games per season he makes.

Football was unfashionable in the 80s and I don't remember any local MPs talking about United. Suddenly when the Premier League comes along, Caborn is a 'big Blade' (in the free seats of course). I could be wrong here and maybe someone will say they sat next to him against Port Vale n 1999, but somehow I doubt it.

They are all in it for what they can get. Some of them happen to do a decent job, but 'friends of the working class', they are not. Just look at the absurd generousity of the MP's pension scheme. If an MP joins the long queues at 2.50 on Shoreham Street then fair play but I have to say that is not my experience.

Any other 'Blade MPs' we can "out"?

Paul Blomfield is very much a genuine Blade. He used to go to the Lane with his dad and kids.

Toby Perkins is indeed a Blade.

I despise Clive Fucking Betts. Slimy toad that he is. I would never ever vote for him.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Paul Blomfield is very much a genuine Blade. He used to go to the Lane with his dad and kids.

Toby Perkins is indeed a Blade.

I despise Clive Fucking Betts. Slimy toad that he is. I would never ever vote for him.

Allegedly uses rent boys.

 

[Silent Blade]

Blair's talk of watching Jackie Milburn was particularly cringeworthy

Did he say that? He was only 4 when Jackie Milburn left Newcastle

 

[Silent Blade]

Paul Blomfield is very much a genuine Blade. He used to go to the Lane with his dad and kids.

He was the BIFA chairman before Andy Nicolson

 

[UnitedBlade]

Caborn is a 'big Blade' (in the free seats of course). I could be wrong here and maybe someone will say they sat next to him against Port Vale n 1999, but somehow I doubt it

Think you're right about the free seats but he claims to have been watching us from 8 years old, which would be 1951. I think we have to accept he's a Blade.

"He’s been attending Sheffield United games since he was eight and used to be on the board, but had to resign when he became a minister. That doesn’t make him a paying punter though."

 

[I should coco]

Did he say that? He was only 4 when Jackie Milburn left Newcastle

Apparently not. Apologies to Blair and it seems all the ridicule heaped on him was the result of being misquoted. A journalist making stuff up? Surely not....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...-did-not-lie-about-jackie-milburn-495001.html

"However, the radio interview has finally been unearthed from the BBC archives, and shows that Blair was, in fact, misquoted: he never mentions sitting, and claims his time as a supporter "came just after Jackie Milburn".

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

Interesting article here.

It's clear Kevin still has a great sense of injustice over the Tevez affair and rightly so, but I reckon he'd be better not making public comments about it now. The past is the past and it was ten years ago.

Also mentions the fact we are bigger than many clubs currently in the Premier League including Stoke and West Brom. Means nothing really except for the fact to me it shows that if smaller clubs can make it and stay up there, there is absolutely no reason we can't.

I think sometimes we blades think sustained Premiership football is beyond United but it's not. The problem is getting there firstly though.

Who a few years ago would have seen Bournemouth, Palace and Watford as established Premier League clubs?


http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/spor...sheffield-united-chief-kevin-mccabe-1-8625764

 

[Pinchy]

"And I think we have seen the best football at Bramall Lane since the Tony Currie, Alan Woodward, Len Badger and Ted Hemsley era for attractive football."

Well said Kev. So do I. That matters.

 

[Silent Blade]

Apparently not. Apologies to Blair and it seems all the ridicule heaped on him was the result of being misquoted. A journalist making stuff up? Surely not....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...-did-not-lie-about-jackie-milburn-495001.html

"However, the radio interview has finally been unearthed from the BBC archives, and shows that Blair was, in fact, misquoted: he never mentions sitting, and claims his time as a supporter "came just after Jackie Milburn".

In Football Focus Tony Blair was asked to pick his best Newcastle X1. I was surprised he chose Mick Mahoney as his best keeper

 

[Pollingtonblade]

In Football Focus Tony Blair was asked to pick his best Newcastle X1. I was surprised he chose Mick Mahoney as his best keeper

To be fair this is the same bloke that choose Blunkett as his Home Secretary!

 

[Boxer Blade]

Apparently not. Apologies to Blair and it seems all the ridicule heaped on him was the result of being misquoted. A journalist making stuff up? Surely not....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...-did-not-lie-about-jackie-milburn-495001.html

"However, the radio interview has finally been unearthed from the BBC archives, and shows that Blair was, in fact, misquoted: he never mentions sitting, and claims his time as a supporter "came just after Jackie Milburn".

Very diplomatic and fair minded of you coco, you'll make a good politician, then again.....

 

[I should coco]

Very diplomatic and fair minded of you coco, you'll make a good politician, then again.....

I dish it out to all and sundry so it's only fair that I apologise when wrong (except about the Massive of course).

 

[robbiez666]

Interesting article here.

It's clear Kevin still has a great sense of injustice over the Tevez affair and rightly so, but I reckon he'd be better not making public comments about it now. The past is the past and it was ten years ago.

Also mentions the fact we are bigger than many clubs currently in the Premier League including Stoke and West Brom. Means nothing really except for the fact to me it shows that if smaller clubs can make it and stay up there, there is absolutely no reason we can't.

I think sometimes we blades think sustained Premiership football is beyond United but it's not. The problem is getting there firstly though.

Who a few years ago would have seen Bournemouth, Palace and Watford as established Premier League clubs?


http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/spor...sheffield-united-chief-kevin-mccabe-1-8625764

I don't really like the emphasis he puts on January. Planning is about planning. If there's money there that we're not spending wouldn't we be better served investing it now?

 

[LoughboroBlade]

warnock signed these

• Matthew Kilgallon - Leeds United, £1,750,000 rising to £2,000,000, 8 January 2007[7]
• Jon Stead - Sunderland, £750,000 rising to £1,250,000, 11 January 2007[8]
• Mamadou Seck - Le Havre, free, 15 January 2007
• Luton Shelton - Helsingborg, £2,000,000, 15 January 2007[9]
• Ahmed Fathy - Ismaily SC, £700,000, 24 January 2007

thats 5 and a half million , so yes mccabe stumped up
vague memories of 1 or 2 dont tell the true story

£5.5m, even then, was absolute peanuts for a Premier League club. When weighing up against the cash we would have picked up had we stayed up, or at the very least picked up via parachute payments, we should have invested more. £5.5m is barely that much more than we gambled the previous January as a Championship club. We wouldn't offer Stephen Warnock the wages Blackburn offered, and weren't prepared to match Preston's valuation for Dave Nugent.

There's a reason we went for squad fillers like Fathi/Shelton/Seck in the end, and I very much doubt that was down to McCabe being prepared to pay what was necessary for some first team quality to keep us up. It was a transfer window that epitomised the do-it-on-the-cheap and hope-for-the-best approach. Which in fairness to the man was one goal away from being a success. But in the end he gambled on that approach, and lost.

 

[8lade]

Interesting article here.

It's clear Kevin still has a great sense of injustice over the Tevez affair and rightly so, but I reckon he'd be better not making public comments about it now. The past is the past and it was ten years ago.

Who a few years ago would have seen Bournemouth, Palace and Watford as established Premier League clubs?

Agree about Tevez, we were done over good and proper but United accepted the settlement (we were never going to get a proper settlement) and that is an end to it.
And Watford, don't forget were promoted with United and were long gone before we were relegated but they did something right in the interim period between then and now.

 

[Sean Thornton]

£5.5m, even then, was absolute peanuts for a Premier League club. When weighing up against the cash we would have picked up had we stayed up, or at the very least picked up via parachute payments, we should have invested more. £5.5m is barely that much more than we gambled the previous January as a Championship club. We wouldn't offer Stephen Warnock the wages Blackburn offered, and weren't prepared to match Preston's valuation for Dave Nugent.

There's a reason we went for squad fillers like Fathi/Shelton/Seck in the end, and I very much doubt that was down to McCabe being prepared to pay what was necessary for some first team quality to keep us up. It was a transfer window that epitomised the do-it-on-the-cheap and hope-for-the-best approach. Which in fairness to the man was one goal away from being a success. But in the end he gambled on that approach, and lost.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/fathi-arrives-to-beef-up-blades-squad-1-2420400

 

[Maidenhead]

I don't really like the emphasis he puts on January. Planning is about planning. If there's money there that we're not spending wouldn't we be better served investing it now?

And what do you do in January if things aren't going to plan?

Every business needs a contingency plan.

 

[robbiez666]

And what do you do in January if things aren't going to plan?

Every business needs a contingency plan.

Oh, agreed, but contingency suggests a smaller amount put on one side. From what Kev is saying, it sounds much more than that. I'd expect January business to really just be loans, unless someone randomly becomes available or cheap in last 6 months of contract. Otherwise, it's more panic buying.

 

[Maidenhead]

Oh, agreed, but contingency suggests a smaller amount put on one side. From what Kev is saying, it sounds much more than that. I'd expect January business to really just be loans, unless someone randomly becomes available or cheap in last 6 months of contract. Otherwise, it's more panic buying.

A "small" contingency in January would be bloody useless.

In summer you're guessing what you need.

In January you know where you are and need to be able to undertake major surgery if needs be.

I'm not saying don't spend owt in summer but save enough back to ensure you can do what you need in Jan

 

[Worksop II]

And what do you do in January if things aren't going to plan?

Maybe the thing that went wrong, is that Investment was not made available pre-season ......

 

[Maidenhead]

Maybe the thing that went wrong, is that Investment was not made available pre-season ......

Or the wrong investment was made and you're screwed in Jan

 

[Esablade]

A "small" contingency in January would be bloody useless.

In summer you're guessing what you need.

In January you know where you are and need to be able to undertake major surgery if needs be.

I'm not saying don't spend owt in summer but save enough back to ensure you can do what you need in Jan

...January is the table of scrap's though isn't it?

Every club knows you're desperate/pushing for promotion so prices rocket up and talent is from a far smaller pool.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Maybe the thing that went wrong, is that Investment was not made available pre-season ......

If that was the case why did Warnock buy for the future in January and state he wasn't bothered if Fathi Seck and Shelton didn't get a game that season.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

If that was the case why did Warnock buy for the future in January and state he wasn't bothered if Fathi Seck and Shelton didn't get a game that season.

He said he would be very happy if he didn't need them. As that would imply we were successful without them.

"I want them pushing for a first-team place – but I'd also be very happy if none of them got a game, if I didn't even need them!"

 

[Sean Thornton]

He said he would be very happy if he didn't need them. As that would imply we were successful without them.

"I want them pushing for a first-team place – but I'd also be very happy if none of them got a game, if I didn't even need them!"

Not McCabes fault then?

 

[Maidenhead]

...January is the table of scrap's though isn't it?

Every club knows you're desperate/pushing for promotion so prices rocket up and talent is from a far smaller pool.

So just forget it and put all your eggs in the summer basket or understand that and keep a decent contingency?

Your budget is finite.

What would you do?

I know which I would do

 

[blade too long]

£5.5m, even then, was absolute peanuts for a Premier League club. When weighing up against the cash we would have picked up had we stayed up, or at the very least picked up via parachute payments, we should have invested more. £5.5m is barely that much more than we gambled the previous January as a Championship club. We wouldn't offer Stephen Warnock the wages Blackburn offered, and weren't prepared to match Preston's valuation for Dave Nugent.

There's a reason we went for squad fillers like Fathi/Shelton/Seck in the end, and I very much doubt that was down to McCabe being prepared to pay what was necessary for some first team quality to keep us up. It was a transfer window that epitomised the do-it-on-the-cheap and hope-for-the-best approach. Which in fairness to the man was one goal away from being a success. But in the end he gambled on that approach, and lost.

utterly disagree , peanuts ?
5,5 m was 6th highest jtw spend that season
warnock bought a bag of bollocks
if hed spent on players that knew the league wed have stayed up ,
but luton shelton and fathi was just throwing money away

 

[Esablade]

So just forget it and put all your eggs in the summer basket or understand that and keep a decent contingency?

Your budget is finite.

What would you do?

I know which I would do

Well, I'd like to think there is a budget set for summer spend with some set aside for 'emergencies' either positive or negative..which is ususlly spent in Jan.

That changes little about the fact that Jan is usually not the best time to pick up the best talent.

P.S- Yep, I'd like the core/key players to be bought in summer..it's called planning.

 

[Maidenhead]

Well, I'd like to think there is a budget set for summer spend with some set aside for 'emergencies' either positive or negative..which is ususlly spent in Jan.

That changes little about the fact that Jan is usually not the best time to pick up the best talent.

P.S- Yep, I'd like the core/key players to be bought in summer..it's called planning.

I'm sure there is a budget for summer, some of which has already been spent and I agree that summer is the best time to buy BUT you must have sufficient funds left to enable material alterations in January in case of need.

I never heard Kevin McCabe say "that's it, we're done for summer"

In my ears he was saying "we know what we want this summer and there will be more in January if we need it"

I honestly can't see why anyone is getting wound up about his January comments.