Attendance next season.

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Shouldn't this be on General pigtalk board?
 
I can see our average topping 25k, there will be 30k gates with Weeds/pigs (Fulham are winning play offs) plus a few early 20k's v crap like Burton.

Then when we go up next season McCabe needs to build some more seats, Prem gates could push 35 - 40k easily.

Punters will be knocking the gates off the hinges when Cloughie and Brayford are back in town surely, can't wait to have Clough football imposed on us.
 
Also remember, although the bottom tier has 2,990 seats.
In recent season we've only ever allowed a max of 2,100 in there.

I assume it will be the same next season.
First 2 rows netted off and then 2 lots of netting at either end meaning 900 empty seats.
Also I don't think the bigger clubs will be happy with 2,100 tickets, so would imagine we'll sell some up in the upper tier too BUT that means reduced capacity again with a big no mans land in the top tier.

You would have thought loads of HD cctv cameras and signs warnings they can be banned or prosecuted should be a big enoug deterrent to control things up there so only a small amount of netting would be needed for segregation.

A mid table average season will mean 25K average gates, if we're anywhere near the playoffs then about 27K average, would be more without all this netting.


Far too much common sense here mate ....... don't forget that our brilliant South Yorkshire police are heavily involved in the decision :eek::eek::eek:

They have been accused of many things but having common sense was NEVER one of them ..... o_O

UTB & FTP
 
We shouldn't get too carried away with this thread guys because regardless of our average attendance next year ......... it will be nowhere near the average of 87,500 over at the sty, that the arrogant deluded scum will no doubt enjoy .... o_O

UTB & FTP
 
In all honesty do we care that much about attendances, the grunters always start there arguments with us over attendance, personally I say leave them to it, as long as we have fans going who enjoy it and there is a good atmosphere then it really does not matter.

I for one care about attendances. It's one of the indicators, not exclusively of course, of an important, successful and yes 'massive' club. Lots of football fans across the country take notice of, and either admire or envy, clubs who attract large crowds. "What was the crowd" is often the very next question after "how did they go on". Crowds matter. In the long run they go hand in hand with achievement. It's why Crewe have never been league champions.

As between talking about attendances and allowing our views to be conditioned by what the Pig fans do or say, I'm up for an all-nighter chatting attendances and massiveness.
 
There's nothing wrong with talking attendances or any other topic relating to SUFC for that matter. It seems we have another branch of guardians on this board - the attendance police. What we don't do is indulge in wild exaggerations about 28k sell-outs or fantasise about our 40k averages in days gone by, that's a different subject all together, i.e., massiveness. Discussing a crowd figure or potential attendance without any inference to massiveness is all part of the game so, attendance police, please find another theme to impose yourself upon.
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Naturally I understand why some posters might dismiss any suggestion of discussing next season's attendances, but as long as we retain a grounded approach, never going near the fantasist elements that have gripped our country cousins in outer Sheffield, then we'll always be that much smarter, we'll always have more nous when it comes to considering where this great club is and may get to, at least in the foreseeable future.

It all depends on season ticket sales, if we can secure around the 20,000 figure then I'd expect us to have a gate that hovers around the 24-28 thousand figure. Of course it's difficult to predict, but given what Wilder and company have brought to the Blades, then it's certainly not fanciful to consider what lies ahead. I hope I'm wrong, I hope we manage to have a regular attendance far higher than my suggestion, but whatever figure we arrive at, things have to be an improvement over the last 6 seasons. We're looking forward, we're playing excellent football, we've finally got a squad where mediocrity plays no part at all, and who knows what we'll achieve next season? What I do know is that we've shed the label of Division 1 underachievers, and now life is beginning to get far more interesting and exciting.
 
I for one care about attendances. It's one of the indicators, not exclusively of course, of an important, successful and yes 'massive' club. Lots of football fans across the country take notice of, and either admire or envy, clubs who attract large crowds. "What was the crowd" is often the very next question after "how did they go on". Crowds matter. In the long run they go hand in hand with achievement. It's why Crewe have never been league champions.

As between talking about attendances and allowing our views to be conditioned by what the Pig fans do or say, I'm up for an all-nighter chatting attendances and massiveness.

There's nothing wrong with talking attendances or any other topic relating to SUFC for that matter. It seems we have another branch of guardians on this board - the attendance police. What we don't do is indulge in wild exaggerations about 28k sell-outs or fantasise about our 40k averages in days gone by, that's a different subject all together, i.e., massiveness. Discussing a crowd figure or potential attendance without any inference to massiveness is all part of the game so, attendance police, please find another theme to impose yourself upon.
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Fair points
 
Anyone else give a hairy chuff if the big clubs are unhappy with 2k tickets?

I would say that is plenty given the restrictions in place, and the fact that we want as many blades in there as possible.
At the moment, the attendance is looking like it might need raising a few thousand to hold future attendances, so I believe, as I always have done, that now is the time for the club to start making those plans and getting it done.
Increase the KOP and south stand so that we can have a potential 42k stadium. Then when the premier big boys come they can have the top tier of Bramall lane rather than the bottom tier.
 
As of 2 and a half weeks ago we'd sold 16k season tickets. That's already 2.5k more than last season and we're no doubt about it on target to hit 20k. So 6 and a half more than last season. Add that to this years average attendance of 21,500 and you have 28k plus bigger away attendances. We'll have a very high average next season and if we do well it could be just shy of 30k

That's assuming the 6.5k increase in ST's mean they didn't attend the games at all this year, so not in this season's average ! So flawed calculations.

I expect average next season around 25-26k. Our home average up by 2-3k and away up by 1k. Many of away teams will fall well short of selling whatever allocation they get. We won't keep splitting lower tier for those games as demand will not always be needed, given increase in ST holders and therefore less occasional home fans.
 
There's nothing wrong with talking attendances or any other topic relating to SUFC for that matter. It seems we have another branch of guardians on this board - the attendance police. What we don't do is indulge in wild exaggerations about 28k sell-outs or fantasise about our 40k averages in days gone by, that's a different subject all together, i.e., massiveness. Discussing a crowd figure or potential attendance without any inference to massiveness is all part of the game so, attendance police, please find another theme to impose yourself upon.
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What do you mean in days gone by ?

Due to the intense brainwashing SWFC fans still believe they'll get 40,000 against Fulham

Still believe they got 40,000 against Newcastle

Talking attendances is important and it is good fun, but only when talking to sensible reasonable individuals who didn't get brainwashed and bummed by Daddy, Grandad and Uncle Tom Cobley an all
 
That's assuming the 6.5k increase in ST's mean they didn't attend the games at all this year, so not in this season's average ! So flawed calculations.

I expect average next season around 25-26k. Our home average up by 2-3k and away up by 1k. Many of away teams will fall well short of selling whatever allocation they get. We won't keep splitting lower tier for those games as demand will not always be needed, given increase in ST holders and therefore less occasional home fans.
Beat me to it with this reasoning WB. We have to assume that the vast majority of the new season ticket holders were in attendance for the average to reach where it got to. I'm with you on the calculations but its good to speculate.
 



If this current trend of 'new'and 'returning' support carries on at the the lane,coupled along with the season ticket sales and let's say an average of two thousand away following,I reckon the blades will be averaging 27000 for the home games.
What we reckon??
Battling relegation - 22k, mid table 23-24k, battling playoffs 25-26k, battling top 2 26-27k
 
The queue for a beer at HT is going to be ridiculous, better get the hip flask ready.
 
Beat me to it with this reasoning WB. We have to assume that the vast majority of the new season ticket holders were in attendance for the average to reach where it got to. I'm with you on the calculations but its good to speculate.
True, I'm a returned season ticket holder for example who went to quite a few but not all home games last season.
 
I'm not sure away crowds will make that much difference. We saw away crowds average about 800 at the lane this year

Average away following in the championship is surprisingly less than 2000, so you can factor in around 1000 extra tickets that way.

I'd guess we will see an extra 2,000 blades, so I'd guess we are looking at circa 25,000 unless we have a storming season in which case you can add 2 or 3 thousand. I think one thing it does point to is a need to increase the capacity. Depending on how we handle away allocations, I can see us reaching "capacity" on several occasions next year and someone at the club with a calculator needs to do the sums about investment versus return on putting extra seats / extra hospitality (or both) at the ground
 
If we get a few juicy opponents* for the first 4 games at home; Sunderland, Leeds, Aston Villa and SWFC for instance, we win, the atmosphere is rocking, and we flirt top 6, I can see the crowd sustaining at a high level - 26,000.

But if we get a few duds in the openers, Millwall, Bolton, Bristol, Barnsley and we lose and slip down the League - 22,000.

For the first time in 4 years, I will be waiting for the fixture list.

* this means quite well known clubs that might tempt students / drifters etc. to see them at the Lane.
 



If this current trend of 'new'and 'returning' support carries on at the the lane,coupled along with the season ticket sales and let's say an average of two thousand away following,I reckon the blades will be averaging 27000 for the home games.
What we reckon??
Easily. I think closer to 28k.
 

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