Get Taylor From Bristol Rovers

[BushBlade]

Alternatively he may have genuinely see that horrible episode of his life over and want to move on.

Coming back to a club where you may be 'loved' but the fans still chant 'you can do what you want' etc, might not be that great. As for 'indebted', it was his father in law's money and perseverance that played the major part. Our support may have helped in some way but that's probably it.

If he genuinely wants a 'fresh start' he should avoid BDTBL. People outside the club (Jean Hatchett, come on down) will try to get the whole shitty thing going again about 'role models' and 'respect for women'.

I'd have him back tomorrow as a player but I have no idea what the man underneath is like now.

I don't think the likes of Jean Hatchett can make much mileage out of Ched since the re-trial. The bottom line is he's not guilty. I think she's smart enough to realise that if she continued to hound him it would backfire on her.
Personally, I'm more bothered about his injuries than any reaction from the media.

 

[I should coco]

I don't think the likes of Jean Hatchett can make much mileage out of Ched since the re-trial. The bottom line is he's not guilty. I think she's smart enough to realise that if she continued to hound him it would backfire on her.
Personally, I'm more bothered about his injuries than any reaction from the media.

BB

It wasn't just the media though. At the time, I know that one of major sponsors threatened to leave and this will have played a part in the club withdrawing the offer to train.

McCabe may decide there is just too much baggage locally. never mind the national media.

My point was more about Ched himself and his desire/need for a genuine fresh start. I guess none of us know the answer to that.

 

[Ricky]

And there's nothing to suggest we are better off with Clarke in the team either is there? Just because we created plenty Charlton doesn't mean we are better off with Clarke in the side. We aren't and it showed on the day. He took Clarke off. You cannot compare the Charlton game to the two home games v Shrewsbury and Bury. It was always going to be obvious there would be more space to attack against Charlton than the other two put together. I genuinely think yours and some others dislike for Done clouds there judgement on what's best for the team. Have we or have we not got better results when Done has started? A simple yes or no will do

A simple yes or no wouldn't do though would it because there's no proper basis for comparison. And if we defend a free kick in the last minute at Charlton you probably wouldn't even be asking the question about results.

The comparison is that we dominated possession in all three games but struggled to score. That's not necessarily the fault of Done or Clarke. The problem is creating clear chances, more so at home. Having more quality out wide would help.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Done doesn't score enough for a central striker, he's missed far too many chances this season. OK so he's busy and helps create space but it puts too much pressure on others,Sharp in particular,, to score. I believe Scougs and EEL may be our second top scorers with 4 apiece, one is a central defender the other not even a regular starter.

I think Done is destined to be one of those players who is really difficult to find a spot for as it's not obvious what his best position is and ultimately we will have a better option in every position that he can play.

It's all about the team though.

HMS Shipperley is a prime example, a great striker in his own right, not particularly but look at the 05/06 season. He struggled to get into double figures goal wise, had zero assists according to the stats yet look what he added to the team as a whole.

 

[Slacky1889]

That's Bristol Rovers though - what class players have they seen in the last 20 years?

Had you ever heard of him before this season? I hadn't.

You know what? You and your mate may be right! Look at Vardy - now there's a genuine late developer.

But 12 miles down the road you've got a Welsh international who's proven at a higher level- with a point to prove. He's on £2k a week at a club about to go into administration. He loves this club (or at least he loves the fans - if not the Chairman) and he feels indebted to us. We could sign him for peanuts and offer him monkey nuts and he'd crawl here in his belly through broken glass to play for us again. If ihe does and it doesn't work out what do we have to lose?

It's our number 1 priority in January as far as I'm concerned.

It will not be that easy to sign Ched and it would be ridiculous to not have other options like Taylor.

 

[Woodwardfan]

Our manager has paid a fee and awarded a 3 year contract to Clarke; he's a careful choice and a 'big signing' for us.

Lavery has been awarded a 3 year contract too.

These are big signings in the context of SUFC's financial situation.

Sharp and Done were signed for fees the previous year. Again big signings when put in context.

Four such players in a strike-force of four is a luxury for any League 1 side.

Get real folks. Two of these are the manager's choices and Billy Sharp is his captain.

Don't hold your breath for new signings.

 

[Woodwardfan]

Our manager has paid a fee and awarded a 3 year contract to Clarke; he's a careful choice and a 'big signing' for us.

Lavery has been awarded a 3 year contract too.

These are big signings in the context of SUFC's financial situation.

Sharp and Done were signed for fees the previous year. Again big signings when put in context.

Four such players in a strike-force of four is a luxury for any League 1 side.

Get real folks. Two of these are the manager's choices and Billy Sharp is his captain.

Don't hold your breath for new signings.

I should add = THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE STRIKERS.

 

[andy m]

Which made it more difficult when they packed the defence. So that's Dones fault is it? Get a grip

So its harder to score against 9 men than 11? I think you're the one that is losing touch with reality.

 

[Mouth of the South]

Quite simply, even considering his buy out clause (i.e. < £1m) I would expect Taylor to be out if Utd's price range (whilst in L1 at least) even on the off-chance that CW rates him.

Furthermore, I see him as a replacement for Sharp rather than a potential partner due to their respective styles of play.

I fully expect a mid-level Champ club to take a chance on him in Jan.

 

[spongebobblade]

So its harder to score against 9 men than 11? I think you're the one that is losing touch with reality.

If only it was that simple. Shrewsbury had 9 defenders, so did Bury and Walsall. It's much harder to break a team down has no or little intention of going forward. Charlton for instance had 4 defenders. It's why we had so much space to play in. It's why at the moment we will get more joy away from home at the moment. Come back to me when you've watched a bit more football

 

[andy m]

If only it was that simple. Shrewsbury had 9 defenders, so did Bury and Walsall. It's much harder to break a team down has no or little intention of going forward. Charlton for instance had 4 defenders. It's why we had so much space to play in. It's why at the moment we will get more joy away from home at the moment. Come back to me when you've watched a bit more football

If there is little room to play in you need strikers that are technically good or dominant in the air. Does that describe Matt Done? Thought not.

 

[mancunianblade]

Its set up for Cheds return let just be honest, Wilder was even asked out right and he didnt say no. hes on a one year deal with the option of a second, theyre in need of case and he hasnt pulled up any trees since returning so not as if a Championship club will take the chance.

Clarke deserved a chance after his Cameo but he doesnt seem to be to keen to bother trying to keep his place once he got his chance. Ched offers a little more Physicality to Taylor. Taylor maybe a little too similar to Sharp anyway. I think for £500k we could quite easily get Evans and Bogle and free up wages for both by letting Clarke leave on loan.

 

[JohnDenver]

Much as it pains me, if we can get Ched for little money then we should. Never thought I'd say that...

 

[BushBlade]

Much as it pains me, if we can get Ched for little money then we should. Never thought I'd say that...

Will we sign Creswell to do the running around like he did last time?

 

[mancunianblade]

Seems Done is the new scape goat. We always seem to target the honest hard workers. He may have not contributed much in the goal stakes but I think his workrate and pace creates opportunities for others. is it coincidence that we havnt created as much in the past two games since he got dropped? Not necessarily saying its Done in particular but a player of his ilk rather than Clarke. Maybe Chapman...

 

[JohnDenver]

Will we sign Creswell to do the running around like he did last time?

Let's go retro.

 

[spongebobblade]

If there is little room to play in you need strikers that are technically good or dominant in the air. Does that describe Matt Done? Thought not.

Why do they have to be just good in the air? Top scorers in Europe over a 10 game period and some still weren't satisfied.
Tell me, how many of the 6 league matches have we won when Clarke has started?..... thought not

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Let's go retro.

Fuck it...Jim Bone it is!

 

[andy m]

Why do they have to be good in the air?
Tell me, how many of the 6 league matches have we won when Clarke has started?..... thought not

Clarke isn't great in the air. Don't think he is the answer to our goal scoring problems either. Matty Done works hard but is just not good enough especially at home when as you say teams play with at least 9 defenders.

 

[andy m]

Why do they have to be just good in the air? Top scorers in Europe over a 10 game period and some still weren't satisfied.
Tell me, how many of the 6 league matches have we won when Clarke has started?..... thought not

oh forgot to point out that when teams defend deep more goals are scored from balls into the box. Someone good in the air is more likely to take advantage of that.

 

[spongebobblade]

Clarke isn't great in the air. Don't think he is the answer to our goal scoring problems either. Matty Done works hard but is just not good enough especially at home when as you say teams play with at least 9 defenders.

I've never said Done is the answer long term. Just that he is the best option we have at the minute. He has struggled for goals, nobody is defending that but he's more than played his part in the TEAM that went on a 15 match unbeaten. Some games you win with flair, some you have to grind out but if it ain't broke, don't fix it

 

[spongebobblade]

oh forgot to point out that when teams defend deep more goals are scored from balls into the box. Someone good in the air is more likely to take advantage of that.

I would say that's been more down to lack of width than our strikers over the last few games? Even Wilder has acknowledged our balls into the box haven't been good enough

 

[andy m]

I would say that's been more down to lack of width than our strikers over the last few games? Even Wilder has acknowledged our balls into the box haven't been good enough

The width is there just the wrong players out wide I think. No one to beat a man and put in a quality ball so we are crossing from poor areas.

 

[spongebobblade]

The width is there just the wrong players out wide I think. No one to beat a man and put in a quality ball so we are crossing from poor areas.

Lafferty hasn't been on top form of late and when Freeman was injured Bash was no wingback

 

[andy m]

I've never said Done is the answer long term. Just that he is the best option we have at the minute. He has struggled for goals, nobody is defending that but he's more than played his part in the TEAM that went on a 15 match unbeaten. Some games you win with flair, some you have to grind out but if it ain't broke, don't fix it

Just because you are winning doesn't mean you don't try to improve in areas. I believe Done has 2 goals this season. Does he even have any assists, I cannot remember seeing one?