Transfer Policy.

[DazBlade88]

So the Desso ain't working then?

It seems so, according to the Desso website with regards to maintenance:

• Vertically injected synthetic fibres drain water faster => for perfect playing characteristics, sprinkling can be done a bit closer to match time

Good. Good stuff. And when the ball sails over the top of a struggling McEveley to be nodded in at the far post, 'at least the pitch looks good'.

I'm more frustrated at people on here making whoopee about the pitch than finishing tenth, to be honest. That's disappointing, from a footballing point of view.

pommpey

I haven't seen anyone celebrating the pitch personally, unless they're being a sarcastic bastard like me and just winding you up while you're ranting...

 

[pommpey]

It seems so, according to the Desso website with regards to maintenance:

• Vertically injected synthetic fibres drain water faster => for perfect playing characteristics, sprinkling can be done a bit closer to match time

I haven't seen anyone celebrating the pitch personally, unless they're being a sarcastic bastard like me and just winding you up while you're ranting...

Ah. The old 'I was just winding you up' routine.

So you agree with me. Didn't seem like that a few posts ago.

pommpey

 

[DazBlade88]

Ah. The old 'I was just winding you up' routine.

So you agree with me. Didn't seem like that a few posts ago.

pommpey

Even the part where I said, I would have preferred two centre halves?

 

[Barney]

unless they're being a sarcastic bastard like me and just winding you up while you're ranting...

Hmm...not so sure myself.

 

[pommpey]

Hmm...not so sure myself.

Me neither. I prefer arguing with Sean and Tyler to be honest. At least they won't capitulate and claim it was all one. big. joke.

pommpey

 

[DazBlade88]

Hmm...not so sure myself.

Me neither. I prefer arguing with Sean and Tyler to be honest. At least they won't capitulate and claim it was all one. big. joke.

pommpey

You two take this forum far too seriously.

 

[Sean Thornton]

The point about the pitch is one thing nobody can argue with you about, well at least not sensibly.

Don't forget the upgrades to Shirecliffe and the training facilities too.

Shit stirring bastard

 

[Chali 2na]

Ah, the old argument to the stone. I can't discuss this because your suggestions are absurd (without proving the absurdity).

Tell me why we can buy a pitch, but not bring in a released midfielder on a substantive wage who will change our fortunes? Or does one preclude the other?

pommpey

Proving the absurdity? Well for starters Paddy Kenny isn't getting a game for Northampton and is about 20 stone, so I don't know what more proof you need there? As for mentoring George Long: I wouldn't trust Paddy Kenny to mind a pet rock, let alone impart wisdom to Long.

As for the QPR rejects, it's well documented that QPR over the last few seasons have been paying grossly inflated and exorbitant wages, so I would guess that makes most of them unaffordable for a team losing money and trying to reduce playing costs
That's without mentioning that the 3 in question have been getting bugger all football recently.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Me neither. I prefer arguing with Sean and Tyler to be honest. At least they won't capitulate and claim it was all one. big. joke.

pommpey

We support Sheffield United....

It's all one big joke sadly.

 

[pommpey]

Proving the absurdity? Well for starters Paddy Kenny isn't getting a game for Northampton and is about 20 stone, so I don't know what more proof you need there?

Is he? And, given young George is having trouble finding his dick with both hands, could we do any worse? Doesn't seem like much movement on signing a backup/replacement.

As for mentoring George Long: I wouldn't trust Paddy Kenny to mind a pet rock, let alone impart wisdom to Long.

So, Kenny's experience playing for 20 years at a level above Long means nowt, huh? Okay.

As for the QPR rejects, it's well documented that QPR over the last few seasons have been paying grossly inflated and exorbitant wages, so I would guess that makes most of them unaffordable for a team losing money and trying to reduce playing costs

Football is all about investment these days Chali. You either pay for talent, or you sell it. Have a fat guess what we do.

That's without mentioning that the 3 in question have been getting bugger all football recently.

Would you agree however that even with no playing, the three in question could run Basham into the ground? I mean, we are playing Chris Basham in midfield, and still he fails to put his mark on the game.

pommpey

 

[The Crab]

Proving the absurdity? Well for starters Paddy Kenny isn't getting a game for Northampton and is about 20 stone, so I don't know what more proof you need there? As for mentoring George Long: I wouldn't trust Paddy Kenny to mind a pet rock, let alone impart wisdom to Long.

As for the QPR rejects, it's well documented that QPR over the last few seasons have been paying grossly inflated and exorbitant wages, so I would guess that makes most of them unaffordable for a team losing money and trying to reduce playing costs
That's without mentioning that the 3 in question have been getting bugger all football recently.

FFS don't let him take George to the Chemist.

 

[Sean Thornton]

FFS don't let him take George to the Chemist.

The Police closed down the "chemist" on the Badger.

 

[PeteBlade]

Yet your response was snarky. It alludes I use a CM approach to what I say. And you still haven't answered my question.



With the exception of he was shit before we signed him, with no real prospect of improving our game. I'd wager he was available, wanted a game - any game, and needed paying.



I'm not annoyed. I'm proposing that list is the level which we should be pitching at, if we have any ambition to break out of this cycle of mediocrity.



And is he proven at this level, or above? Do you have information he'd be able to cut it at League One?

pommpey

Well with all due respect, you do use a CM approach to what you say, unless 'you have information' to suggest any of those top end Championship players you suggest would drop to our league or be any good in it. OR be even slightly affordable in it.

As for Paddy Kenny, he's been a terrible role model and far from a model professional and his main good spell was with us, which was how many years ago? So no idea why you'd think he'd be a good coach to Long. Isn't Alan Kelly an actual goalkeeping coach? Would much prefer someone like that, if available.

 

[Chali 2na]

Is he? And, given young George is having trouble finding his dick with both hands, could we do any worse? Doesn't seem like much movement on signing a backup/replacement.

So, Kenny's experience playing for 20 years at a level above Long means nowt, huh? Okay

Football is all about investment these days Chali. You either pay for talent, or you sell it. Have a fat guess what we do.

pommpey

I'm glad you're not in charge, if all it takes for you to green light a new signing is "could we do any worse".
And what do you mean it doesn't look like there's any movement? Have you not been reading the Lee Grant thread?

"You either pay for talent, or you sell it. Have a fat guess what we do"
My point exactly, if you already know that we sell players to supplement running costs and we're trying to reduce the wage bill (despite whether you think we should be or not: as it's irrelevant.) then why would you suggest the players in the first place?

 

[Pedro Verde]

Well, keep laughing as George spoons another doozie into the lap of an opposition attacker, boots the ball into touch from a goal kick or flaps at a cross.

Enjoy your fun.

pommpey

At least George got down for that shot Saturday it would have been int back ert net before Paddy got down
then he would have problems getting back up
I do have doubts about your sanity if you would want fat Paddy in goal instead of one of many other keepers we would could get in

I always enjoy my fun whatever that means

 

[pommpey]

Well with all due respect, you do use a CM approach to what you say, unless 'you have information' to suggest any of those top end Championship players you suggest would drop to our league or be any good in it. OR be even slightly affordable in it.

Well, it seems we never bother approaching these released players. And, as I say, they are a casual browse through the 2016 CL released list and by no means definitive. We could do better than whisking ourselves into a fizz about players who may not meet the requirement at a higher level than Div Three.

As for Paddy Kenny, he's been a terrible role model and far from a model professional and his main good spell was with us, which was how many years ago? So no idea why you'd think he'd be a good coach to Long. Isn't Alan Kelly an actual goalkeeping coach? Would much prefer someone like that, if available.

I think Kenny's past is in his past. We've had worse, we have had better. At the moment we are struggling to find a consistent keeper between the sticks and have thrown the dice on a number of combinations in the past, including Frank Talia, Baxter and Mervyn Day, all of whom haven't been up to much. Like I say, the upper echelons experience Kenny has will be valuable to a struggling George Long who I wouldn't be surprised would be ditched if we went up.

pommpey

 

[pommpey]

I do have doubts about your sanity if you would want fat Paddy in goal instead of one of many other keepers we would could get in

Like who? Are they all out in the CS car park, right now?

pommpey

 

[pommpey]

I'm glad you're not in charge, if all it takes for you to green light a new signing is "could we do any worse".

Well, it's exactly as it is. Reading the match reports (because it's all I have) and listening to my mate who went, there's a consensus that Long is a finished entity and fails to meet the pedigree of past United keepers, an area (up to Simonsen) where we have always been strong. Certainly his gaffe on Saturday cost us two valuable points.

And what do you mean it doesn't look like there's any movement? Have you not been reading the Lee Grant thread?

Believe it when I see it, TBH. Be a good acquirement if it happens, but it seems we are skint and can't afford CL player wages. Or summat.

"You either pay for talent, or you sell it. Have a fat guess what we do"
My point exactly, if you already know that we sell players to supplement running costs and we're trying to reduce the wage bill (despite whether you think we should be or not: as it's irrelevant.) then why would you suggest the players in the first place?

If we are selling players to supplement running costs (which obviously we are) then what does that say to you about the root and branch structure of the club, considering the cup runs, player sales and 'investment' ploughed into the club in the past five years alone?

This is too easy. You are defending the indefensible.

pommpey

 

[PeteBlade]

Well, it seems we never bother approaching these released players. And, as I say, they are a casual browse through the 2016 CL released list and by no means definitive. We could do better than whisking ourselves into a fizz about players who may not meet the requirement at a higher level than Div Three.



I think Kenny's past is in his past. We've had worse, we have had better. At the moment we are struggling to find a consistent keeper between the sticks and have thrown the dice on a number of combinations in the past, including Frank Talia, Baxter and Mervyn Day, all of whom haven't been up to much. Like I say, the upper echelons experience Kenny has will be valuable to a struggling George Long who I wouldn't be surprised would be ditched if we went up.

pommpey

It's bizarre that in one breath you stamp your feet that we aren't going for ex PL players because we have no ambition and in the other breath think we should be taking on an average goalkeeper who's best spell was a decade ago and who has proved a terrible role model off the pitch and you've absolutely no clue or inclination to his ability to coach.

 

[Tyler Durden]

 

[pommpey]

It's bizarre that in one breath you stamp your feet that we aren't going for ex PL players because we have no ambition and in the other breath think we should be taking on an average goalkeeper who's best spell was a decade ago and who has proved a terrible role model off the pitch and you've absolutely no clue or inclination to his ability to coach.

How does one re-explain this?

I encourage us to target ex-Championship players. There is a difference.

And regarding Kenny, his mentoring of GL would prove valuable. Let's not forget he has played at the higher levels and in some key games, even at international. GL on the other hand is struggling to catch a ball at the moment and everyone on here is bobbaring themselves empty about him playing tonight. There was even a protracted campaign to get rid of him (our option, a fucking teenager) because of his gaffes, which stem further back than last Saturday just before half time. So what if Kenny's 'been a bad role model'. I could (but won't) name a few from his ilk who were just as bad. Its his impact today on an imminent weakness I am bothered about. And if you suggest our GK coaches can do it then I give you Gillingahm last year as a starter and his error on Saturday as a finisher. Go compare.

pommpey

 

[pommpey]

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'The Genius', Graham.

Mebbes he'll 'sort out some counselling' for Long. Or summat.



pommpey

 

[PeteBlade]

How does one re-explain this?

I encourage us to target ex-Championship players. There is a difference.

And regarding Kenny, his mentoring of GL would prove valuable. Let's not forget he has played at the higher levels and in some key games, even at international. GL on the other hand is struggling to catch a ball at the moment and everyone on here is bobbaring themselves empty about him playing tonight. There was even a protracted campaign to get rid of him (our option, a fucking teenager) because of his gaffes, which stem further back than last Saturday just before half time. So what if Kenny's 'been a bad role model'. I could (but won't) name a few from his ilk who were just as bad. Its his impact today on an imminent weakness I am bothered about. And if you suggest our GK coaches can do it then I give you Gillingahm last year as a starter and his error on Saturday as a finisher. Go compare.

pommpey

You don't need to "re-explain". Your point isn't difficult to comprehend, just your logic.

It's fantastic that PK played at a higher level several years ago and got some time as a back up goalie when the proper keeper wasn't available, I simply asked why qualified him as a decent coach of youngsters, other than the fact that he played for us and was ok, although liable to the occasional clanger himself.

 

[pommpey]

You don't need to "re-explain". Your point isn't difficult to comprehend, just your logic.

It's fantastic that PK played at a higher level several years ago and got some time as a back up goalie when the proper keeper wasn't available, I simply asked why qualified him as a decent coach of youngsters, other than the fact that he played for us and was ok, although liable to the occasional clanger himself.

He was 'ok'?

I'd say he was a bit better than 'ok'. He was capped for Ireland, faced down PL players and played in some key games. That experience doesn't drop from the end of your cock.

If he's going for his coaching badges, what better place to start than BDTBL and our errant shot stopper?

pommpey

 

[BushBlade]

He ducks, he dives, he swerves. Perhaps you should go in net, Pomps?

How exactly would Kenny improve Long's game? We already have goalkeeping coaches and they're not ones who've been at it for 5 minutes like Paddy has. He's hardly going to challenge him for his spot.

And yes, very much too soon. Bit of a gutter comment that.

Give him drugs.

 

[S5Blade]

He was 'ok'?

I'd say he was a bit better than 'ok'. He was capped for Ireland, faced down PL players and played in some key games. That experience doesn't drop from the end of your cock.

If he's going for his coaching badges, what better place to start than BDTBL and our errant shot stopper?

pommpey

Hammond is proof this theory is bollocks.

 

[pommpey]

Hammond is proof this theory is bollocks.

Oh. Okay. After tonight's debacle, I'm all fucking ears. Seriously, I am.

The floor is yours ...

pommpey

 

[robbiez666]

I'm confused by our transfer policy.

Wilder has signed more players now than Adkins and has the benefit of having the mass ranks of Clough's cloggers on his hands.

We were told no more old players on long contracts:

Duffy 30 - 2 year contract
Clarke 31 - 3 year contract

signing the best players in the division

Wilson - Considered average at Oldham
Hussey - no comment needed
Fleck - fair enough

Wright - League 2 and considered to be fourth choice for Oxford and 30

No players on the way down

O'Connell

We were told we'll address:

Lack of leadership - not done
Lack of pace - not done
Lack of height - not done
Lack of physical presence - not done
Quality not quantity - not done

We were told we'll play a high tempo pressing game - 45 minutes in 3 games
No hoof ball
No square pegs in round holes

More bizarrely, why reduce the width of the pitch and then play 4-4-2 against teams who play 4-5-1, giving them the benefit?