You had your chance BT

[SwissBlade]

And in a moment of madness, BT ends his contract in the most miserable fashion.

I couldn't get a good view of it at the game but seen it on the highlights. Whether it was a straight red or not can be debated, but its the mentality of a so called "Top Professional" to dive in like that. Sure things weren't going our way, but you pull together as a team and work for the result. You don't leap in like that.

After his cameo performance v Stevenage I thought he showed exactly why we need him next year, sadly one week later we saw the other side to him.

He hasn't done enough in this spell, we all know that. Now its just the question of if we can get him fit and starting games is he worth the risk. I would say yes, but its a big if.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

He hasn't done enough in this spell, we all know that. Now its just the question of if we can get him fit and starting games is he worth the risk. I would say yes, but its a big if.

He's basically had an extended trial, and offered nothing. We don't owe him anything, so why should we give him a new contract? spend the 4k a week or whatever it is he's on on somebody young and decent instead.

 

[Jehovah]

It was a ridiculous decision from BT to go in with such a challenge. We can argue all day whether it was a red or not, but anyone who plays knows the risks you take going in two footed. He was my idol in his first spell, he's bought me a beer before and seems a top bloke. Unfortunately all I'll remember him for now is fucking us over when we really needed him.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

Maybe he goes in hard because he is committed, frustrated, trying to prove a point or not fit enough to "get there" without a desperate lunge.

Either way it's very sad and I think we need to let go next season regardless of where we are

 

[God]

It seems your only argument for offering a 34 year old striker (who hasn't scored for 2 YEARS), a contract is that you don't believe we could sign any better, based on O'Hallorhan. Am I missing some other point, becuase if not we might as well pack up?

UTB

I'm saying we could use him for a season to help bring on a young forward similar to O Headless in this division should we not go up. Does his experience count for nothing? Now if we could get our hands on a Matty Phillips type, then different story, but I just cant see that happening, so I'd keep the option open. You have to admit its not easy scoring when you're out injured and then sat getting splinters is it?

 

[SwissBlade]

He's basically had an extended trial, and offered nothing. We don't owe him anything, so why should we give him a new contract? spend the 4k a week or whatever it is he's on on somebody young and decent instead.

Because like I said on the other thread, when he shows the type of performance we saw v Stevenage, he's worth the money.

That said, he hasn't shown anymore than 30 minutes in 5 months... so the smart money would be on him being finished

 

[metalblade]

Christ we'd be better off bringing the Chief out of retirement, I find it laughable some would like BT to get a contract FFS words fail me.

 

[Bladesway]

Bladesway, Yesterday at 8:09 PM Report
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God likes this.

I'll take that

P.S, My goals for the Blades matches BT's in this spell, that was the point I was making. In fact your right I'm not as good as he is, but thats the point isn't it? You could have put an overweight 41 year old neverhasbeen in the team and his goals return wouldn't have been worse than BT's. Puts it all in perspective whether he is on a performance based contract or otherwise.

 

[God]

I'll take that

P.S, My goals for the Blades matches BT's in this spell, that was the point I was making. In fact your right I'm not as good as he is, but thats the point isn't it? You could have put an overweight 41 year old neverhasbeen in the team and his goals return wouldn't have been worse than BT's.

I've told you a million times not to exaggerate !!!

 

[United Aren't Back.]

We still have plenty of high earners at the club contracted until 2013, that's the worry

I don't think there's many who we'd want to be rid of, who's contract is up this summer........

Really need to rid ourselves of monty and quinn.

 

[God]

Really need to rid ourselves of monty and quinn.

Agree with Monty but why Quinn????

 

[stannyblade]

the angle of the tv replay really does make it look worse than it was until their player went into BT he was no where near him and won the ball cleanly. Would Rooney have got a red for it? No he wouldnt. The Exeter fan that I went with seemed to think it was that Beattie was the most well known player on the pitch. The officials all day were crap. The linesman that was watching for exeter players offside second half was a good 7-10 yds behind play and his watching across the line was more like 60 degrees to the touchline instead of 90

 

[Balham]

I saw the challenge for the first time 5 minutes ago. All the posters saying it was two-footed: were you in line with it on the day? It looks to me like Beattie lunged in but with his left(?) leg tucked underneath. It's committed and it's won a ball which was there to be won but in today's game, it's borderline "dangerous" and that's why the FA won't overturn it.

 

[TopBoy]

BT's challenge was a full bloodied lunge in an attempt to get the ball. That was a sending off in today's game but not 5 years ago, which coincidentally is when BT was last fit enough to play.

 

[super_pig]

shame really.. he was starting to look fit


which is why the FA (west ham) needed him banned .. of course it all makes sense now.. tell you what .. if west ham win their playoff final we will be 'allowed' to win ours, as there is no chance of us meeting up again.. paranoid.. me??

 

[beechblade]

I saw an angle on Late Kick Off last night, which was pitch level, Beattie won the ball, and from that angle it looked like he made little contact if any contact with the player. Having said that though Phil Brown thinks it was a clear red for intent, but what was Beatties intent, win the ball or take the player? Looks like winning the ball to me.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...f_Yorkshire_and_Lincolnshire_2012_Episode_15/

About 13 minutes in they talk about it, show the regular TV angle then the closer one just after.

 

[Pedro Verde]

I saw an angle on Late Kick Off last night, which was pitch level, Beattie won the ball, and from that angle it looked like he made little contact if any contact with the player. Having said that though Phil Brown thinks it was a clear red for intent, but what was Beatties intent, win the ball or take the player? Looks like winning the ball to me.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...f_Yorkshire_and_Lincolnshire_2012_Episode_15/

About 13 minutes in they talk about it, show the regular TV angle then the closer one just after.

Just watched the replay, its a definite Red card in todays game, you dont have to make contact with the player for it to be deemed dangerous or reckless

 

[LoughboroBlade]

About 13 minutes in they talk about it, show the regular TV angle then the closer one just after.

While the link is very much appreciated, you could have at the very least given us all a warning that if you skipped to 13 minutes into the programme the first thing you see is Gary Megson.

 

[puppet]

sorry but watching that several times over - beattie is looking at and focussed on the ball totally, in much the same way morgan was when he caught hume who charged into the challenge in a similar, committed way as the exeter player did. i'd ask all these defos red card beattie is scum brigade to look at both angles concentrating solely on beattie, beatties head angle and the exeter players angles. both heavily committed to win the ball if they cant go for a 50/50 and take the consequences then football is screwed. and no, rooney wouldnt have gone for that either imho.

 

[metalblade]

While the link is very much appreciated, you could have at the very least given us all a warning that if you skipped to 13 minutes into the programme the first thing you see is Gary Megson.

Ahh yes the pigs sold out and they could have sold 20,000 more by the end of the week there will have been 30,000 locked out of the sty, but he did say we could get MASSIVE crowds too but just not as MASSIVE as Wendy.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

sorry but watching that several times over - beattie is looking at and focussed on the ball totally, in much the same way morgan was when he caught hume who charged into the challenge in a similar, committed way as the exeter player did.

I completely agree with you that his intent is clearly to win the ball. At the time it happened , we were pressing the Exeter defenders a bit more than we'd done previously (I think Flynn won possession only minutes before by simply putting the right back under more pressure), and when the ball was miscontrolled I had hoped someone would grab the chance to win the ball back. His intent for the ball is clear in my mind.

That said, I don't think you can argue that it isn't a red card, as he's clearly gone in with two feet. I'm struggling to think why he didn't just go in with one foot (which I thought he had done at the time) - the minute you go in with two it's a near-guaranteed red.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

Their player's ball control was crap as well.
Dammit!

 

[beechblade]

While the link is very much appreciated, you could have at the very least given us all a warning that if you skipped to 13 minutes into the programme the first thing you see is Gary Megson.

Aye sorry about that.

 

[beechblade]

Just watched the replay, its a definite Red card in todays game, you dont have to make contact with the player for it to be deemed dangerous or reckless

Yes I know but Beattie looked in control, his body was close to the ground, not like most two footed, where they completely leave the ground and aimlessly lunge.
I think the decision to instantly red card players over anything that looks slightly full blooded these days is one of the things that has seen a rise in diving in the British game, I say British, because diving has been around a fair but longer in must foreign versions of the game. Beattie's challenge was more controlled, rather than reckless kick on Doyle that went completely unpunished moments before.