Yorkshire in the Prem

[Lampiao]

Excuse my failing memory - but was trying to work out whether the coming season is the first without a Yorkshire based team in the Prem?

 

[Westran]

2010 - 2013 didn't have any. Quite a few seasons before that there was only Middlesbrough and I'm not quite sure whether we count them or not.

 

[Lampiao]

Just makes me dislike Lancashire even more!

 

[Klaatu Barada Nikto]

2010 - 2013 didn't have any. Quite a few seasons before that there was only Middlesbrough and I'm not quite sure whether we count them or not.

Middlesbrough has been part of North Yorkshire since 1996.

 

[Westran]

Middlesbrough has been part of North Yorkshire since 1996.

I know, but do we really count them?

 

[WorkingtonBlade]

I know, but do we really count them?

I see no reason why not. Middlesbrough is historically a Yorkshire town, ever since it was founded in the early 1800s. There was a spell of a couple of decades when it was in Cleveland, before it became part of North Yorkshire in 1996. So it spent about 150 years in Yorkshire, then 22 years outside Yorkshire, then 28 years back in Yorkshire.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

It is a unitary authority in North Yorkshire, however, you find a map of North Yorkshire that shows Middlesbrough actually in North Yorkshire because I can't - I just wish I could.

I remember being just outside King's Cross at midnight in 1968 or 69 waiting for a supporters club coach back to Sheffield. There were Boro fans there as well and we were all chanting "Yorkshire Yorkshire".

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

I know, but do we really count them?

Nope.. I never see boro as a rival so don't give a shit

 

[SW12 to S12 to S18]

I know, but do we really count them?

I've seen Yorkshire play cricket there on several occasions, if it's good enough for Yorkshire it's good enough for me.

 

[Revolution]

Seasons when the top division had no Yorkshire teams (counting Boro as Yorkshire)

1888-1892 inclusive
1982-1984 inclusive
2010-2013 inclusive
2024-25

So that’s only 10 seasons ever.

 

[WorkingtonBlade]

You’ve got to use traditional country boundaries for these comparisons really. Otherwise there are no Lancashire clubs in the Premier League next season either - which makes the whole thing a bit farcical.

 

[Silent Blade]

I see no reason why not. Middlesbrough is historically a Yorkshire town, ever since it was founded in the early 1800s. There was a spell of a couple of decades when it was in Cleveland, before it became part of North Yorkshire in 1996. So it spent about 150 years in Yorkshire, then 22 years outside Yorkshire, then 28 years back in Yorkshire.

Chris Old was from Middlesbrough and Paul Jarvis from Redcar.

 

[de g.]

It is a unitary authority in North Yorkshire, however, you find a map of North Yorkshire that shows Middlesbrough actually in North Yorkshire because I can't - I just wish I could.

I remember being just outside King's Cross at midnight in 1968 or 69 waiting for a supporters club coach back to Sheffield. There were Boro fans there as well and we were all chanting "Yorkshire Yorkshire".

Middlesbrough isn't part of North Yorkshire for local government purposes. It is for the purposes of the Lord Lieutenancy, which is based largely on historic (pre-1973) County boundaries.

Since almost the sole purpose of the Lord Lieutenancies are to be the Crown's representative in the area and since I don't accept the relevance or legitimacy of the Crown, the Smoggies can go fuck themselves trying to claim our reflected glory.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

2010-2013 inclusive

Doesn't Hull count as Yorkshire? They used to feature on Calendar "Goals on Sunday" which was Yorkshire teams.

 

[Westran]

Doesn't Hull count as Yorkshire? They used to feature on Calendar "Goals on Sunday" which was Yorkshire teams.

They weren't in it between 2010-2013

 

[Gin&Juice]

Doesn't Hull count as Yorkshire? They used to feature on Calendar "Goals on Sunday" which was Yorkshire teams.

So did Grimsby, Boston, Lincoln etc. in the 90’s.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

They weren't in it between 2010-2013

Ah right thought they were in it 2013

 

[de g.]

They weren't in it between 2010-2013

So did Grimsby, Boston, Lincoln etc. in the 90’s.

There's no ambiguity over Hull it is within Yorkshire, specifically East Riding of Yorkshire.

Grimsby, Boston, Lincoln, etc are and have always been in Lincolnshire. There was a rather uncomfortable situation where North Lincs and North East Lincs were part of Humberside and the old Government Office region of Yorkshire and the Humber, but the clue is in the names of the Local Government districts.