If we had won the playoffs...

[54yrblade]

Like who ?

Bournemouth
Palace
Brentford
Fulham
Brighton

There you go, and that's without looking hard at business models or at European leagues

Consistent PL presence, steady growth over time, Europe, cup wins, planning and believing in the plans with serious business players involved.

It can be done.

 

[Frank the tank]

Bournemouth
Palace
Brentford
Fulham
Brighton

There you go, and that's without looking hard at business models or at European leagues

Consistent PL presence, steady growth over time, Europe, cup wins, planning and believing in the plans with serious business players involved.

It can be done.

You fell right in to my trap
They have all been backed heavily by billionaire owners

I asked you who had been grown steadily by careful planning and spending
You listed a bunch of clubs that have spent hundreds of millions outside their TV money

Brighton have spent half a billion

 

[54yrblade]

You fell right in to my trap
They have all been backed heavily by billionaire owners

I asked you who had been grown steadily by careful planning and spending
You listed a bunch of clubs that have spent hundreds of millions outside their TV money

Brighton have spent half a billion

I've asked before on here and had no replies but why is it that a recent PL team from THE home of football only appears of interest to less than honest potential buyers and now owners who are apparently clueless?

Why is it that other smaller clubs attract that serious wealth and have serious transfers, young players getting to international standard and we end up with what we have? Evidence of long term planning and business acumen.

Really, why?

Enjoy your moralistic trap setting bud. The last home game and those before are all the proof needed of what and where we are.

Sub standard on and off the field.

Rinse and repeat.

 

[dexter101]

We will never know but personally, I think the owners would have made the same gambles they have this season.

I think they would have tried to make the stylistic changes they wanted, so wilder would still have to sacked, AI would still have been used.

I think the positive is that the academy development would have gone ahead.

We might have attracted more investment but I think they are clearly still working stuff out and their decision making processes aren't right.

 

[mattbianco1]

You fell right in to my trap
They have all been backed heavily by billionaire owners

I asked you who had been grown steadily by careful planning and spending
You listed a bunch of clubs that have spent hundreds of millions outside their TV money

Brighton have spent half a billion

And you've fallen into your own trap it seems.

Brighton have raised significant transfer funds from player sales.

Their net spend on transfers over the past 5 seasons is POSITIVE:

This season
Net +66m

24/25
Net -231m

23/24
Net +83m

22/23
Net +83m

21/22
Net +3m

TOTAL NET SPEND = +4m

Prior to that, they did what all newly promoted clubs have to do and spend to stay on the league:

20/21
Net -30m

19/20
Net -53m

18/19
Net -77m

17/18
Net -69.6m

Their first 4 seasons in PL their NET SPEND = 230M. AVG = 57m per season

Brighton's total NET SPEND on transfers as a PL club is 226m, over 9 seasons = AVG of 25m. That's without considering 9 years of TV money coming in. That's purely direct transfers IN/OUT

This level of spend isn't significant in reality. To compare United's last 3 PL seasons...

19/20
Net spend =72m

20/21
Net spend = 62m

23/24
Net spend =36m

Net spend over 3 PL seasons = 170m... AVG = 56m

 

[54yrblade]

And you've fallen into your own trap it seems.

Brighton have raised significant transfer funds from player sales.

Their net spend on transfers over the past 5 seasons is POSITIVE:

This season
Net +66m

24/25
Net -231m

23/24
Net +83m

22/23
Net +83m

21/22
Net +3m

TOTAL NET SPEND = +4m

Prior to that, they did what all newly promoted clubs have to do and spend to stay on the league:

20/21
Net -30m

19/20
Net -53m

18/19
Net -77m

17/18
Net -69.6m

Their first 4 seasons in PL their NET SPEND = 230M. AVG = 57m per season

Brighton's total NET SPEND on transfers as a PL club is 226m, over 9 seasons = AVG of 25m

This level of spend isn't significant in reality. To compare United's last 3 PL seasons...

19/20
Net spend =72m

20/21
Net spend = 62m

23/24
Net spend =36m

Net spend over 3 PL seasons = 170m... AVG = 56m

So why not us?

 

[mattbianco1]

So why not us?

Read it again. We did
We matched Brighton's average spend in our 3 seasons versus their first 4 seasons.

The difference is, Brighton were able to stay in the league consecutively. We weren't

 

[Frank the tank]

And you've fallen into your own trap it seems.

Brighton have raised significant transfer funds from player sales.

Their net spend on transfers over the past 5 seasons is POSITIVE:

This season
Net +66m

24/25
Net -231m

23/24
Net +83m

22/23
Net +83m

21/22
Net +3m

TOTAL NET SPEND = +4m

Prior to that, they did what all newly promoted clubs have to do and spend to stay on the league:

20/21
Net -30m

19/20
Net -53m

18/19
Net -77m

17/18
Net -69.6m

Their first 4 seasons in PL their NET SPEND = 230M. AVG = 57m per season

Brighton's total NET SPEND on transfers as a PL club is 226m, over 9 seasons = AVG of 25m. That's without considering 9 years of TV money coming in. That's purely direct transfers IN/OUT

This level of spend isn't significant in reality. To compare United's last 3 PL seasons...

19/20
Net spend =72m

20/21
Net spend = 62m

23/24
Net spend =36m

Net spend over 3 PL seasons = 170m... AVG = 56m

It is now after their owner pumped in 500 million of debt to himself

 

[Nick Jansky]

Read it again. We did
We matched Brighton's average spend in our 3 seasons versus their first 4 seasons.

The difference is, Brighton were able to stay in the league consecutively. We weren't

Brighton are not, in any sense, parochial in terms of recruitment, management and all the things that matter if you want to be successful. We are.

 

[Frank the tank]

I've asked before on here and had no replies but why is it that a recent PL team from THE home of football only appears of interest to less than honest potential buyers and now owners who are apparently clueless?

Why is it that other smaller clubs attract that serious wealth and have serious transfers, young players getting to international standard and we end up with what we have? Evidence of long term planning and business acumen.

Really, why?

Enjoy your moralistic trap setting bud. The last home game and those before are all the proof needed of what and where we are.

Sub standard on and off the field.

Rinse and repeat.

Maybe you just need to have a more realistic outlook on things if after fifty five years you have not realised we are a cub that has good times and bad and that the last ten years are actually one of the better ones in our history then you might not get so upset about something that will probably never happen

 

[54yrblade]

Brighton are not, in any sense, parochial in terms of recruitment, management and all the things that matter if you want to be successful. We are.

And therein lies a big part of the problem.

 

[54yrblade]

Maybe you just need to have a more realistic outlook on things if after fifty five years you have not realised we are a cub that has good times and bad and that the last ten years are actually one of the better ones in our history then you might not get so upset about something that will probably never happen

That's OK then. Settle for bang average. The Blades mentality.

 

[Frank the tank]

That's OK then. Settle for bang average. The Blades mentality.

That's exactly what we are
Sometimes above ,sometimes below
You sound like a pig ,living in a fantasy land of your own delusions

 

[54yrblade]

That's exactly what we are
Sometimes above ,sometimes below
You sound like a pig ,living in a fantasy land of your own delusions

You're a fantasist. Enjoy your little bubble.

 

[KMC-1889]

It's a complete unknown.

But from what I've heard had we gone up the owners had some new investors lined up to help make our budget bigger. How much bigger I dunno.

I don't think we would be doing a Sunderland by any stretch. But optimistically we could be doing similar to what either Leeds or Burnley are doing. And thus right now be in the mix to stay up or go down. That would be my prediction given the way Wolves, West Ham and Forest have started.

Deffo feels like this season is a good opportunity to have gone up

It’s not a question of budget, it’s a question of who would be spending it.

Out track record of spending at they level is abysmal and little has changed to say we would have been better this time around. We’d have signed decent British/Irish players from the championship and a few with premier league experience currently sat in other teams reserves.

 

[Keen Blade]

3 seasons in the prem out of the last 5 years is not too bad for a middling size club with miserable fans and poor strategic planning

Fuckinell Frank ,

Not only do you agree the club has poor strategic planning ,
But you think your fellow fans ought not to be miserable as a result !

Who are you to call out our miserable loyalty ?
We're all still here.
Watching the club chuck away £400m and it's 3 PL seasons , only to find itself sliding back to its typical level of underachievement.

Don't you consider that failing in 10/10 playoff campaigns has any significance whatsoever ?

We're emotionally tied to a £multimillion business that contrives to fail at every chance to advance !

Sometimes we can laugh about it but only blind fools would fail to be consistently disappointed by it.

But we'll all be here , hiding our vicarious embarrassment at our club's shitshow when any decently run outfit would have made a better fist of things.

I think my fellow fans a feckin wonderful ,
putting their misery aside to stay loyal.

But there's plenty of justification for the misery , no doubt about that.

 

[Frank the tank]

Fuckinell Frank ,

Not only do you agree the club has poor strategic planning ,
But you think your fellow fans ought not to be miserable as a result !

Who are you to call out our miserable loyalty ?
We're all still here.
Watching the club chuck away £400m and it's 3 PL seasons , only to find itself sliding back to its typical level of underachievement.

Don't you consider that failing in 10/10 playoff campaigns has any significance whatsoever ?

We're emotionally tied to a £multimillion business that contrives to fail at every chance to advance !

Sometimes we can laugh about it but only blind fools would fail to be consistently disappointed by it.

But we'll all be here , hiding our vicarious embarrassment at our club's shitshow when any decently run outfit would have made a better fist of things.

I think my fellow fans a feckin wonderful ,
putting their misery aside to stay loyal.

But there's plenty of justification for the misery , no doubt about that.

The poor strategic planning has taken us from six years of league one to three seasons this half decade in the prem

It's about as good as it gets if you want to be miserable about it then fair do's
I find it hard to accept a man who has watched the club for over half a century has not grasped this but each to his own

 

[TJ blade]

Football has changed a bit in 55 years
Money is king now ,thanks to our strategic decisions we have had enough to be a yo yo club in the top twenty six ,now that's coming to an end you want to cry about why we haven't become Manchester United with Sheffield United resources

I think being a Brentford or Bournemouth, would be a start, before we get to Man Utd level

 

[54yrblade]

Fuckinell Frank ,

Not only do you agree the club has poor strategic planning ,
But you think your fellow fans ought not to be miserable as a result !

Who are you to call out our miserable loyalty ?
We're all still here.
Watching the club chuck away £400m and it's 3 PL seasons , only to find itself sliding back to its typical level of underachievement.

Don't you consider that failing in 10/10 playoff campaigns has any significance whatsoever ?

We're emotionally tied to a £multimillion business that contrives to fail at every chance to advance !

Sometimes we can laugh about it but only blind fools would fail to be consistently disappointed by it.

But we'll all be here , hiding our vicarious embarrassment at our club's shitshow when any decently run outfit would have made a better fist of things.

I think my fellow fans a feckin wonderful ,
putting their misery aside to stay loyal.

But there's plenty of justification for the misery , no doubt about that.

Excellent

100% play off failure says everything about it and provides the solid evidence of what we are

There are none so blind as those who will not see

 

[TJ blade]

Fuckinell Frank ,

Not only do you agree the club has poor strategic planning ,
But you think your fellow fans ought not to be miserable as a result !

Who are you to call out our miserable loyalty ?
We're all still here.
Watching the club chuck away £400m and it's 3 PL seasons , only to find itself sliding back to its typical level of underachievement.

Don't you consider that failing in 10/10 playoff campaigns has any significance whatsoever ?

We're emotionally tied to a £multimillion business that contrives to fail at every chance to advance !

Sometimes we can laugh about it but only blind fools would fail to be consistently disappointed by it.

But we'll all be here , hiding our vicarious embarrassment at our club's shitshow when any decently run outfit would have made a better fist of things.

I think my fellow fans a feckin wonderful ,
putting their misery aside to stay loyal.

But there's plenty of justification for the misery , no doubt about that.

Bang on pal

 

[Frank the tank]

Excellent

100% play off failure says everything about it and provides the solid evidence of what we are

There are none so blind as those who will not see

Three promotions to the premier league says the opposite

 

[54yrblade]

Of course it does .....

 

[VictoryBlade]

And Wilder could have signed the new Brewster............................................................wow

 

[I should coco]

Excellent

100% play off failure says everything about it and provides the solid evidence of what we are

There are none so blind as those who will not see

It says nothing of the sort. If we really are as shit as you suggest, how have we 3 automatic promotions, in the last 8 years?

There are no so blind, as thise that draw inappropriate conclusions.

 

[54yrblade]

It says nothing of the sort. If we really are as shit as you suggest, how have we 3 automatic promotions, in the last 8 years?

There are no so blind, as thise that draw inappropriate conclusions.

Last season, we failed against the teams at the top that could have given us auto.

We failed in the final

We're a mess, jtw will rescue us - again, fitness issues - again and the current atmosphere inside BDTBL says it all.

We got to the PL and stank the place out, a parody of a PL club.

 

[John Street West Terrace]

Can’t help but have thought the owners as venture capitalists would have looked to have made a quick buck of us if we’d gone up

 

[54yrblade]

Can’t help but have thought the owners as venture capitalists would have looked to have made a quick buck of us if we’d gone up

I'd agree there

 

[ATL Recs]

Wilder would have stayed

Mcburnie would have returned
Mcatee would be joining in JTW on loan
We wouldn’t have signed Xhaka

Wilder would be engineering his exit in the new year

We’d be relegated by April

But we’d be another year of prem money better off

And for the first time in a long time, we wouldn’t have to worry about facing the scrubbers.

Wilder would 100% have been gone

 

[ATL Recs]

No one knows
Our owners might have pumped similar amounts of dosh into the coffers as Sunderland have

Pure speculation on every one's part.

They might have but on some right shyte

 

[wadblade]

Pure speculation
but if we had been promoted I still think they would have sacked CW