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I'd gladly give Yeates a few quid to get him to the train station so he can leave our club.

The guy is a waste of space.

He came on against Boro and did naff all....It took 45seconds for the crowd to have to jump up and have a go telling him to get down the wing....like a winger does.

Then he walks into their player and loses the ball.

Then he goes to control the ball but it bounces over his foot.

If he's a recognized winger then he's definitely the worst I've seen.
 

Stop pretending not to understand.

Where he plays is nothing to do with how good he may or may not be.

He is a winger in the sense that he plays on the wing.

No other of our contracted players are wingers.

He is therefore our only recognised winger.
 
Stop pretending not to understand.

Where he plays is nothing to do with how good he may or may not be.

He is a winger in the sense that he plays on the wing.

No other of our contracted players are wingers.

He is therefore our only recognised winger.

I could call myself a goalkeeper, doesn't mean I should be classed as one :)

Parrino has looked as much of a winger and he's supposed to be a centre back!
 
Stop pretending not to understand.

Where he plays is nothing to do with how good he may or may not be.

He is a winger in the sense that he plays on the wing.

No other of our contracted players are wingers.

He is therefore our only recognised winger.

So with this logic, we need to have two "recognised wingers" on the books even if they're shite and don't deserve a game?
 
Hey, I recognize myself as a winger....I think I might have a word about getting a contract.
 
Yeates is a big nesh fanny-boy, more lightweight than a sparrow's cough. I bet he gets bullied at home. By his kids, or some fluffy kittens. Defence splitting runs? He'd run round fog, he's that nesh.
 
Blackwells record with wingers was unbelievable ,because he didn't have the bollocks to let them be wingers and insisted on them being full backs. He would then let decent wingers move on and replace them with jack of all trades ,journeymen players who would cover a multitude of positions not very well. Blackwells downfall and we have struggled to recover from his legacy.
 
Problem being, he would have wanted a significant amount of 50p shaped 50p's a week and was offered another go in the Premier.

I doubt that as by all accounts Nossy and Halford have very similar wage demands but I guess there was some money to be saved somewhere. Although a Pompey on the brink were still able to land Halford.
 
I doubt that as by all accounts Nossy and Halford have very similar wage demands but I guess there was some money to be saved somewhere. Although a Pompey on the brink were still able to land Halford.

Whilst Nyron in undoubtedly overpaid, Mr Halford is on more than him.

Plus we'd already got Nyron when Halford became available for loan hadn't we?
 
I'd gladly give Yeates a few quid to get him to the train station so he can leave our club.

The guy is a waste of space.

He came on against Boro and did naff all....It took 45seconds for the crowd to have to jump up and have a go telling him to get down the wing....like a winger does.

Then he walks into their player and loses the ball.

Then he goes to control the ball but it bounces over his foot.

If he's a recognized winger then he's definitely the worst I've seen.


Bring back Colin Morris! :)
 
I don't think the British game has produced a decent out and out winger for years and the trickle down effect has blessed us with Yeates. Where I think we looked to availability of players around our level rather than technical aspects of play. Right now I'd be happy with somebody who can deliver a cross that can be attacked 75% of the time.
 
I'm no particular fan of Yeates (he isn't even that fast), but he is an actual wide player and he tries to take people on and get balls into the box. What's depressing is how people are fine with the only recognised winger on the books being drummed out of the club for no reason.

For no reason? No I think they have reason, I just don't think you are aware of it.
 
I don't think the British game has produced a decent out and out winger for years and the trickle down effect has blessed us with Yeates. Where I think we looked to availability of players around our level rather than technical aspects of play. Right now I'd be happy with somebody who can deliver a cross that can be attacked 75% of the time.

The British game has produced a few decent wingers who can deliver a ball, off the top of my head Giggs, Bale, Beckham, Adam Johnson are 4 straight away.

The part in bold is what we should ALWAYS be looking for.

Sadly though we seem convinced that its more important to have a "recognised" winger on the books who has genuine pace and delivers the ball 25% of the time - just to excite the crowd.
 
For no reason? No I think they have reason, I just don't think you are aware of it.

Drunk at training is the rumour on Mad. Fits in with Morgan's comments in the programme the other week about the players needing to live like nuns.
 

Drunk at training is the rumour on Mad. Fits in with Morgan's comments in the programme the other week about the players needing to live like nuns.

The issue for me is that we're seeming to cut off our nose to spite our face. If a player misbehaves, you don't pay them off and let them find another club and a signing on fee.

You fine them wages and sell them for a nominal fee. Or make them pull up their socks and perform. Yeates would be very good in the league below, but (if rumours are to be believed), we're making an example of him at the expense of the club. Strange.
 
The issue for me is that we're seeming to cut off our nose to spite our face. If a player misbehaves, you don't pay them off and let them find another club and a signing on fee.

You fine them wages and sell them for a nominal fee. Or make them pull up their socks and perform. Yeates would be very good in the league below, but (if rumours are to be believed), we're making an example of him at the expense of the club. Strange.

If its true, We have to have standards and we have to keep to them
 
The issue for me is that we're seeming to cut off our nose to spite our face. If a player misbehaves, you don't pay them off and let them find another club and a signing on fee.

You fine them wages and sell them for a nominal fee. Or make them pull up their socks and perform. Yeates would be very good in the league below, but (if rumours are to be believed), we're making an example of him at the expense of the club. Strange.

I don't believe he will be getting paid up I would expect a mutual consent release being announced.
 
I was going to say, surely the misdemeanor, if true, would make him in breach of contract some way so why would we pay up in full.
 
People can have a go at the likes of Cresswell, Nos, Collins and Doyle but Yeates has not put any effort in all season. He can't take players on, the only trick he has is to nutmeg and run which hardly ever come off and can't put in a 1st time ball.

If Adams is going to be the manager next season he should be allowed to sack Yeates probably under health and safety at work. If he is getting drunk on Adams now he always will
 
The British game has produced a few decent wingers who can deliver a ball, off the top of my head Giggs, Bale, Beckham, Adam Johnson are 4 straight away.

The part in bold is what we should ALWAYS be looking for.

Sadly though we seem convinced that its more important to have a "recognised" winger on the books who has genuine pace and delivers the ball 25% of the time - just to excite the crowd.

If you consider that each team needs one for each wing plus competition for places then naming 2 over 30yrs old and 3 from the top half of the PL kind of proves my point. I'd go as far to include SWP and Aaron Lennon too but every team between the top of the PL and the bottom of Div 1 doesn't have many to speak of and hence the premium cost of getting your hands on even 1 - when we need 2!

I'm not sure I can name a winger we've had of any quality since the days of maybe Devlin - who truth be known was more about cutting inside than crossing. The likes of Beckham who could and would cross a ball run after run seem to be lost to our game. We need a couple opf players similar to Jason Wilcox who would stick ball after ball on Shearers head!
 
If you consider that each team needs one for each wing plus competition for places then naming 2 over 30yrs old and 3 from the top half of the PL kind of proves my point. I'd go as far to include SWP and Aaron Lennon too but every team between the top of the PL and the bottom of Div 1 doesn't have many to speak of and hence the premium cost of getting your hands on even 1 - when we need 2!

I'm not sure I can name a winger we've had of any quality since the days of maybe Devlin - who truth be known was more about cutting inside than crossing. The likes of Beckham who could and would cross a ball run after run seem to be lost to our game. We need a couple opf players similar to Jason Wilcox who would stick ball after ball on Shearers head!

You missunderstood Johny G, these were a random 4 that just came immediately to mind and yes they're top half of the PL, I could name many more if I could be arsed. So your point isn't proven, I just don't have the desire to sit and go through british wingers of the last 15 years.

If you're talking of wingers that deliver 75% of the time, then Lennon and SWP won't be on that list.

"Wingers" since Devlin at United - Again off the top of my head - Tonge, A Quinn, S Quinn, Liddell, Keef, Halford, Glenn Little
 
"Wingers" since Devlin at United - Again off the top of my head - Tonge, A Quinn, S Quinn, Liddell, Keef, Halford, Glenn Little

I'd put Paul Ifil bang at the top of that list for a proper winger.
 
Little when he played was possibly the most effective, Keef played until he got a contract and thanks to his dodgy calf muscles I'd say Tongue lacked the pace. S Quinn lacks the final ball for me and of the others I don't think of any having the number of crosses or chances created that we crave.
 
Little when he played was possibly the most effective, Keef played until he got a contract and thanks to his dodgy calf muscles I'd say Tongue lacked the pace. S Quinn lacks the final ball for me and of the others I don't think of any having the number of crosses or chances created that we crave.

So basically all of a similar if not better standard to Devlin (by the time he left us) then
 
I'd take finding a new combo similar to Devlin and Ndlovu.

Near enough every other player failed to live up to their reputation or prospect. Certainly if looked at in terms of successful and effective wing play, which is what we need badly now. Seems something about our wide players invoke creative differences with the Manager too.
 
I'd put Paul Ifil bang at the top of that list for a proper winger.

100% agree, Ifill was one of the main reasons for our success that year. Double figures in assists and not far off in goals was it?

Always amazed me the amount of stick he got!
 

100% agree, Ifill was one of the main reasons for our success that year. Double figures in assists and not far off in goals was it?

Always amazed me the amount of stick he got!

He always looked like he could've been much better, but I liked him. Seemed to lack confidence
 

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