Worst manager in the history of SUFC

[Ollessendro]

Well Hoofy mark II, I congratulate you for not only the worst start as a United manager EVER, but also for being officially the worst Sheffield United manager in history. Our Micky not managing to take his team to a win in 11 games is simply pathetic.

I've worked with better pub managers than Adams. Looking like a rabbit in the headlights, making the wrong choices, subs and tactics. Poor signings, deflated post match interviews. All in all, Adams has shown himself to be a choking manager, of pub side quality who loves hoof but cannot find the players to do it.

It wasn't Micky's fault: bollocks!

The team

Before any clappers come back saying, it wasn't Adams fault, he's been dealt a poor hand, it is not his team etc stop and think. It is bollocks! Adams inherited a team with some distance from the relegation zone. This team had just picked up decent victories under different managers (Speed at Milwall and Carver vs Swansea). And yet Adams takes them 11 games without a win and relegation certainties. Nice work alehouse Micky.

His signings

Not only has Micky Mouse being spectacularly shit with this team, he has had the opportunity to bring in players. Last night we fielded 5 players that Adams had signed (Collins, Lowry, Riise, Doyle and Bent) that had zero effect. Adams has had the opportunity to sign players that impacted upon the team, but they haven't. His bollocks in the post match interview last night 'it's not my team' fell on my deaf ears. You've made 7 signings since you came in!! He also chose to let our 2 best players leave!?

Team selection

Then there is the team selection. Geez. Refuses to pick our best player (Boggy), persists with the player that is consistently the worse. Every Shef Utd fans who has attended games recently has called for Cresswell to be dropped. What does Micky Mouse do? Makes him captain. He chops and changes the defences, refuses to play the few quality players we have, plays people out of position and then makes the most horrendous substitutions. Usually they are after we've lost the game, but regardless they show he is tactically inept.

Get yer sen fooked off Micky. Good for nowt, hoof merchant, alehouse. Noone wants yer at BDTBL. My mate told me that the Red Lion in Eccllessfield needs a new manager. You'll be right at home there.

 

[bricktop]

Your wrong on plenty of counts there.

Especially about the Red Lion at Ecclesfield needing a new manager, as there isn't a Red Lion. There is a Black Bull, Ecco Club, Stocks, Greyhound, Ball and Travellers but no Red Lion

 

[blader]

"refuses to pick our best player (boggy)"

well, im sorry, but if you are claiming that, im not sure i can consider an of the rest of that post. Speed didnt play boggy,carver didnt play boggy, blackwell didnt play boggy. anybody maybe think that hes NOT the superstar some people seem to rekon he is? Offered NOTHING at palace, and can only look reasonable in the last 10mins against tiring sides. 2 goals from open play in 25 appearances? come on guys lets just think about it...

 

[SteelCity Blade]

I'm sorry Olle but that's rubbish mate. Anyone who can blame Micky after the succession of poor decisions made at this football club is clutching at straws. Perhaps that's all that is left to do though!

 

[Northyorksblade]

How many games did we go under Bassett in our first season in premier league before we beat Forest in the middle of December?

 

[Micalijo]

Unbelievably good post Ollie, top stuff pal.

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I'm sorry Olle but that's rubbish mate. Anyone who can blame Micky after the succession of poor decisions made at this football club is clutching at straws. Perhaps that's all that is left to do though!

I think Ollie's post is very clear. He's had enough room for manouvre and enough time to coax a few win out of the games he's had. Next thing Steel you'll be telling me he aint a hoof it merchant.

 

[Gareth]

It does seem incredibly harsh to blame Micky Adams for the current mess. Yes he has not won a game but there is nobody more aware of that fact than him and he will take his proportion of the blame as mentioned last night but the whole mess is NOT MA fault.

I like to look at Trevor Birch win record since joining us in January 2010... 26% over 1 calender year and 2 months tells its own story.

 

[beechblade]

Your back to normal then Ollie.

 

[Grecian2000]

How many games did we go under Bassett in our first season in premier league before we beat Forest in the middle of December?

Slight difference in circumstances in that we were in the top flight, having been in the third tier 18 months before AND not having the preverbial pot to piss in, hadn't bought players of the calibre expected to stay there.
I would say Harry was in a bit more credit having that non-winning run on the back of two promotions as well.

 

[Selly]

How many games did we go under Bassett in our first season in premier league before we beat Forest in the middle of December?

16 League games

25/08/1990 Sheff Utd 1 3 Liverpool
29/08/1990 Derby 1 1 Sheff Utd
01/09/1990 C Palace 1 0 Sheff Utd
08/09/1990 Sheff Utd 1 1 Man City
15/09/1990 Southampton 2 0 Sheff Utd
23/09/1990 Sheff Utd 0 2 Leeds
29/09/1990 Chelsea 2 2 Sheff Utd
06/10/1990 Sheff Utd 1 2 MK Dons
20/10/1990 Tottenham 4 0 Sheff Utd
27/10/1990 Sheff Utd 0 1 Coventry
03/11/1990 Norwich 3 0 Sheff Utd
10/11/1990 Sheff Utd 0 0 Everton
17/11/1990 Man Utd 2 0 Sheff Utd
24/11/1990 Sheff Utd 0 2 Sunderland
01/12/1990 Aston Villa 2 1 Sheff Utd
15/12/1990 Liverpool 2 0 Sheff Utd

 

[Ollessendro]

Let me just make one thing clear. I am not blaming Adams for all SUFC’s problems. The main culprits for this mess are Birch, McCabe and the rest of the board. This thread is about Adam’s being a poor manager (the poorest in our history in fact) and not winning any of his games. The board are to be blamed for putting SUFC where they are (and they picked Hoofy mark II) but Adams has to take responsibility for being absolutely crap. The shambles that we have witnessed in the last 11 matches is down to Adams (and the players). He has to take ultimate responsibility for this pub team that has been playing. He has had time and resources to stamp his authority, but has proven to be amazingly poor. I have every faith that every other manager in SUFC’s history (that includes KB, Heath, etc) would have done better in these 11 games. I could have got a win FFS.

 

[SoccerCynic]

No. its not all MA's fault ...its not even that he is the major contributor to our downfall. I seem to recall many asking for a change to "proper" football and hang the consequences. When that was not given enough time to have an effect it was panic time and back to "hoofball" to get results. Well, that has not worked either has it?
The damage was started when we failed to hang on to Warnock and wanted him to take a pay cut....and let Sean Bean verbally abuse Warnocks wife (allegedly). This was followed by a succession of bad decisions during which we became the pariah of english football when KMc stood up to the football establsihment ( rightly in my view) That was probably the only thing he got right in recent times, but I certainly think that it did have an effect on who would come to BDTBL. We failed to build on a team that was good enough to challenge for promotion when some of us spotted that players like Morgs and Monty needed to be replaced. This was exacerbated by the horrendous decisions to capitalise on young players who could have formed the backbone of a decent side. If you are a team that cannot afford big fees and big wages it is madness to sell young players on relatively moderate wages and long contracts when all you can do is replace them with "has beens" and lower league replacements.Does anyone still believe that selling the two Kyles was good business?and will they still think so when we are languishing in the wilderness of the third tier of english football. My problem with Adams is that it just seems to be more of the same. The signings have not been inspirational and the lack of leadership on the pitch has been confidence sapping. Even when Morgs was injured it may not have been too late if we had sought out a replacement. Instead, we made made Monty captain FFS and now another old stager follows in the same footsteps....Cresswell as captain when his doubt as even a first team place is an issue. I can not see where the next points will come from...can anyone?

 

[SteelCity Blade]

I think Ollie's post is very clear. He's had enough room for manouvre and enough time to coax a few win out of the games he's had. Next thing Steel you'll be telling me he aint a hoof it merchant.

Yes its a perfectly clear post, where have I suggested it isnt? If there's one thing Olle could never be accused of its mincing his words. I just disagree with it because I believe it is way off the mark. I happen to believe that blaming our current plight on a recently appointed manager is a crock of shit, considering the succession of poor decisions at the club that you so enthusiastically like to point out on a regular basis. Those that cant think beyond the last 5 minutes will blame Micky Adams.....its the easy straw clutching route.

I'm not going to tell you anything about Micky Adams because its not my job to defend him and he has to turn things around, thats his responsiblity and I've acknowledged that clearly since his appointment.....but if you think that where we are is down to him or that removing him would do any good then you are misguided to say the least.

 

[Selly]

The fact is that Speed averaged 1.17 PPG, Carver 1.00 PPG and Adams is currently on 0.40.

Not much has changed since Speed left, apart from the manager...

 

[Micalijo]

Yes its a perfectly clear post, where have I suggested it isnt? If there's one thing Olle could never be accused of its mincing his words. I just disagree with it because I believe it is way off the mark. I happen to believe that blaming our current plight on a recently appointed manager is a crock of shit, considering the succession of poor decisions at the club that you so enthusiastically like to point out on a regular basis. Those that cant think beyond the last 5 minutes will blame Micky Adams.....its the easy straw clutching route.

I'm not going to tell you anything about Micky Adams because its not my job to defend him and he has to turn things around, thats his responsiblity and I've acknowledged that clearly since his appointment.....but if you think that where we are is down to him or that removing him would do any good then you are misguided to say the least.

we were outside the bottom 3 when he came. Don't you think that has any relevance. It is possible to say with some assurance McCabe has made poor decisions for many years and also that Adams is a pathetic manager based on his results with us.

 

[JohnDenver]

Yes its a perfectly clear post, where have I suggested it isnt? If there's one thing Olle could never be accused of its mincing his words. I just disagree with it because I believe it is way off the mark. I happen to believe that blaming our current plight on a recently appointed manager is a crock of shit, considering the succession of poor decisions at the club that you so enthusiastically like to point out on a regular basis. Those that cant think beyond the last 5 minutes will blame Micky Adams.....its the easy straw clutching route.

I'm not going to tell you anything about Micky Adams because its not my job to defend him and he has to turn things around, thats his responsiblity and I've acknowledged that clearly since his appointment.....but if you think that where we are is down to him or that removing him would do any good then you are misguided to say the least.

Yup. If the fans turn against Adams they'll unwittingly be shielding those who really deserve criticism.

Personally I think Birch needs to carry the can.

 

[Bladesway]

Personally I would have the lot of them against the wall with their arses in the air ready for the splintered broom handle. Players first, Puddleduck second, Birch Third and McCabe last so he got the worst of it. They are all responsible in some way. Players don't have the bottle, the Manager doesn't have the ability (whatever happened to new manager syndrome?), Birch for protecting his master and McCabe for utter dereliction of duty.

Brace yourselves lads I have my broom handle splintered and ready for you.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

we were outside the bottom 3 when he came. Don't you think that has any relevance.

Not really no because I'm extremely confident that we were heading that way with Micky Adams or not. If Andy Reid hadnt carried us through a number of games we would have probably been in the bottom 3 before he arrived. Take away the goals he scored and set up - I hazard a guess a current points total would be a fair bit lower.

For whatever reason we're shite mic, call it ability, call it effort, call it what you want. The manager cant perform miracles with a pile of shit.

 

[Selly]

Personally I would have the lot of them against the wall with their arses in the air ready for the splintered broom handle. Players first, Puddleduck second, Birch Third and McCabe last so he got the worst of it. They are all responsible in some way. Players don't have the bottle, the Manager doesn't have the ability (whatever happened to new manager syndrome?), Birch for protecting his master and McCabe for utter dereliction of duty.

Brace yourselves lads I have my broom handle splintered and ready for you.

Is this a euphamism for something else

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Let me just make one thing clear. I am not blaming Adams for all SUFC’s problems. The main culprits for this mess are Birch, McCabe and the rest of the board. This thread is about Adam’s being a poor manager (the poorest in our history in fact) and not winning any of his games. The board are to be blamed for putting SUFC where they are (and they picked Hoofy mark II) but Adams has to take responsibility for being absolutely crap. The shambles that we have witnessed in the last 11 matches is down to Adams (and the players). He has to take ultimate responsibility for this pub team that has been playing. He has had time and resources to stamp his authority, but has proven to be amazingly poor. I have every faith that every other manager in SUFC’s history (that includes KB, Heath, etc) would have done better in these 11 games. I could have got a win FFS.

Thats fair enough Olle and your entitled your opinion whether it be on the grand scheme of things or just Micky's tenure. As I've said I disagree but perhaps my response was a little strong, please dont take that personally. Your posts are always a good read and you provoke debate which is what this forum should be about.

I just dont think that the 11 results he's had are totally down to him. This has been coming for a long time and Micky's presence has no bearing on it. I genuinely believe that because there was enough prior evidence that we were shit for whatever reason. I just think pointing the finger at one man for how we've done recently is too easy and doesnt tell the whole story.

 

[Bladesway]

Is this a euphamism for something else

Nope, its a big knarly piece of wood with splinters on it. As in "They need buggering with a splintered broom handle."

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Not really no because I'm extremely confident that we were heading that way with Micky Adams or not. If Andy Reid hadnt carried us through a number of games we would have probably been in the bottom 3 before he arrived. Take away the goals he scored and set up - I hazard a guess a current points total would be a fair bit lower.

For whatever reason we're shite mic, call it ability, call it effort, call it what you want. The manager cant perform miracles with a pile of shit.

Agree with that in part but why the hell did he get several players in? I assume to improve the team. Looks to me like he need not have bothered.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Agree with that in part but why the hell did he get several players in? I assume to improve the team. Looks to me like he need not have bothered.

Its a valid point Bladesway but all I would say on that is he hasnt been able to settle the team down. Due to our poor recruitment of injury prone players and bad management of injured players in the past, we have a legacy of problems in trying to get a settled side together where we can keep players available for a run of games.

Since Micky has brought new players in he's constantly had to chop and change the side. Even two or three of those he's brought in have had problems! I've been a manager and have experienced these issues before, albeit at a lower level. Try and get a pattern of play going when you have to pick a different XI every week with loads of new players - its extremely difficult.

 

[raul]

Can't you just say you were wrong SCB???

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Can't you just say you were wrong SCB???

No because I'm not raul. Not sure where you're coming from really.

 

[Micalijo]

No because I'm not raul. I can just see thinks from more than view point.

I think that's a bit unfair Steel on a few of us on this string - we can all see things from more than one viewpoint. Of course Adams aint to blame for it all but his record is appaling on every front, signings, results, organisation etc and he is responsible as manager. Even he knows it himself.

 

[sheffielder]

Steel, the amount of goals we concede from set pieces is f****** disgraceful

 

[Ollessendro]

The fact is that Speed averaged 1.17 PPG, Carver 1.00 PPG and Adams is currently on 0.40.

Not much has changed since Speed left, apart from the manager...

Hmmmm. By your stats Speed would have picked up around 12 points since December the 28th, whereas Adams has picked up 4. Those extra 6 points would have us above the relegation zone (not 2nd from bottom). In fact it could be argued that Speed's run of fixtures was more difficult and that we'd have picked up more points in the recent run of fixtures.

You seem like a stats man Selly Oak. I'll wager a tenner that if we were to do a t-test of significance or run a regression that 1.17 would be highly statistically significantly higher than 0.4.

In light of BB's thread 'you are not fir to wear the shirt'. Micky Mouse is not fit to wear the bage on his coat. Give yer coat back ale house hoofmiester and get fucked off back to the North Midlands.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

I think that's a bit unfair Steel on a few of us on this string - we can all see things from more than one viewpoint. Of course Adams aint to blame for it all but his record is appaling on every front, signings, results, organisation etc and he is responsible as manager. Even he knows it himself.

To be fair mic that came out wrong and is indeed unfair but not intended. Hence why I edited it.....not to mention the poor grammar

I still maintain that the reasons for poor results under him extend much further back. He is very much the poor sap that has copped for a defeated bunch of misfits.....it needs clearing out, it doesnt need a new manager. He is not the problem and I'll stand by that.

 

[Muttley]

Adams could only bring in players that...
1. are available
2. would work within our wage structure
3. Who would be thrown into a relegation battle whilst trying to improve their own fitness.
4. wanted to actually come here
5. have crap agents not advising them to go elswhere!! (tongue in cheek)

His signings haven't been inspiring, coming to this sinking ship with an apparent cancer running through to the core was never going to attract anyone else.

Shame, butthat's what our leader McC tightarse has done to this club.

 

[Yossarian]

Before any clappers come back saying, it wasn't Adams fault, he's been dealt a poor hand, it is not his team etc stop and think. It is bollocks! Adams inherited a team with some distance from the relegation zone. This team had just picked up decent victories under different managers (Speed at Milwall and Carver vs Swansea). And yet Adams takes them 11 games without a win and relegation certainties. Nice work alehouse Micky.

Funny you should say that. Because Ried, Britton and Bartley started both those matches.