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pommpey said:
Norwood is a good signing. Didn't say he wasn't.

My opinion is that 'that's yer lot'.

"Oh look, we've signed Oliver Norwood!"

*JIZ-JIZ-JIZ*

He's been playing for us most of the season, on loan, with an option to buy. Given the odd event of him him playing shit (which he hasn't), his 'arrival' was nailed on. Plus the fact, where his former club was, he was third choice behind a lot of other players. I'm less interested in those headlines and more in the 'It'll be loanees in the JTW'.

Looking at today's performance, if any one of our nominal 1stXI is injured or suspended - or two or three - we might see a severe slip in output.

pommpey
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So you’re using today’s result and performance to have a go at general recruitment which hasn’t yet happened. Gotcha now

The fact remains that we’ve rubber stamped the Norwood deal this week and why not celebrate it. He’s a hell of a signing for a side that just does budget cheapo loans

As for today’s XI, many or most of them have played their part already this season. So there is some depth to the squad. They were just shit today.
 
A fairly cowardly response from a manager.

A manager who picked the wrong team yet has accepted no blame.
A manager who has just written off his new loan signing and a player making his debut
A manager who has written off a player whose contract he has recently extended
A manager too cowardly to answer a direct question about his next signing

There needed to be a strong response, but to merely chuck the whole team under a bus is a bit pathetic.
 
metalblade said:
He can count me out of watching any team with Gary fuckin Madine in the 18. Fuck off Wilder you knobhead if you want a big lump up front go get Akinfenwah or someone without the baggage. To me wanting a thug up front is just admitting your style of football has failed or maybe this is your high water mark.
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Is this a serious comment or are you being satirical?
 
HUMPH! It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if it was knowing that bugger Madine was in the stands that put our second string heroes off their game.

More tea vicar? :D
 
robbiez666 said:
A fairly cowardly response from a manager.

A manager who picked the wrong team yet has accepted no blame.
A manager who has just written off his new loan signing and a player making his debut
A manager who has written off a player whose contract he has recently extended
A manager too cowardly to answer a direct question about his next signing

There needed to be a strong response, but to merely chuck the whole team under a bus is a bit pathetic.
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Why was it the wrong team? The players just played crap
 
metalblade said:
Let no one here delude themselves Norwood is the big signing and any realist knows anything else we bring in will be on loan with a good chance of them being shitola much like last season and the one before that hence why we are in for Gary fuckin Madine. The barrel has been scraped that often the bottom is wafer thin. Next summer should be good when we have no Brooks or DCL to sell, summat tells me Wilder will be gone by then though.
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Don’t let any of this bother you flower as you have told us you are not going again so don’t worry about it. Worry about how to spend your time on a Saturday.
 
davidblade said:
Woodburn MkII
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I wouldn't right him off just yet
I thought he started off ok, was looking for one twos but our other players were just to slow, he took a few decent corners.
He did seem to fade a bit 2nd half, but that could be down to him being shunted around with the substitutions.
He was probably the only player that started that could just about hold his head up high.
 
Eric Cartman said:
Agree with him that side should’ve comfortably won that game. No blame on Wilder for me.
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Couldn't disagree more :(.

He picked a side that looked gormless together. It looked like they had never played as a team unit and were unsure what the others were doing.

He underestimated Barnet and got bitten.

But the truth is, he doesn't really care, chasing the PL is the focus.
 
I find making 11 changes for a 3rd round FA cup game disrespectful and a disgrace this on top of signing Gary fuckin Madine is about as low as this club can get, thanks Chris Wilder. I'm fairly confident the 1st 11 could have had that game won in 30 mins, then give your 2nd string the game time.
 
If he moans, he'll get a reaction - either from the squad, or from the owners this window.

Oh, hang on...
 
SwissBlade said:
So you’re using today’s result and performance to have a go at general recruitment which hasn’t yet happened. Gotcha now

The fact remains that we’ve rubber stamped the Norwood deal this week and why not celebrate it. He’s a hell of a signing for a side that just does budget cheapo loans

As for today’s XI, many or most of them have played their part already this season. So there is some depth to the squad. They were just shit today.
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The problem with that argument is that Norwood being touted as our JTW marquee signing means that he wasn't one of our summer signings, although he was as a loan-to-buy. Juggling signings around like this dilutes our already miserly approach in the transfer market and makes us look stupid as a so called ambitious club, especially considering our league position. As pointed out above we don't have a Brooks coming through so the 1st XI will be pawned off at some point and we will be left with the rest. Worrying times ahead if we don't go up.
 
metalblade said:
I find making 11 changes for a 3rd round FA cup game disrespectful and a disgrace this on top of signing Gary fuckin Madine is about as low as this club can get, thanks Chris Wilder. I'm fairly confident the 1st 11 could have had that game won in 30 mins, then give your 2nd string the game time.
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Do they allow eleven subs in the f.a cup ?
 



robbiez666 said:
A fairly cowardly response from a manager.

A manager who picked the wrong team yet has accepted no blame.
A manager who has just written off his new loan signing and a player making his debut
A manager who has written off a player whose contract he has recently extended
A manager too cowardly to answer a direct question about his next signing

There needed to be a strong response, but to merely chuck the whole team under a bus is a bit pathetic.
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Pretty similar statements from Ranieri to CW and both probably right IMO

"I gave a chance to them [the players] to show if I am right or wrong to see if I am right to choose other players, I am right.

"I did not see desire or passion, I wanted to see desire - 'show me I am wrong, show me!' I am not wrong."​
 
Almosthuman said:
Why was it the wrong team? The players just played crap
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Did we win? Did we play well?

Of course it was the wrong team. You can't just throw 11 players together who have never played together before in a formation that some of them can't play in and expect it to work.It's not like we have a reserve side where they all play together regularly.
 
pommpey said:
Oh, it will. McCabe and HRH aren't much fucked. Wilder has crafted his first eleven into a wonderful position of great surprise and potential. That's good enough for him. 25+k each other week and shirts flying off shelves. Pretty soon we'll have forgotten about the Brooks money if we get a playoff shout (providing we can keep players off the treatment table or not suspended) and it'll be another 'nearly' season. And McCabe can get on with his business in extricating himself and the club from the wankiest business deal since Jesus bought two bits of 4 x 4 and some nails. And that's gonna cost, thanose. Every season we spend out of the big money means year-on-year losses so we are telled. Unless we sell the 1stXI and play the set of baboons out there today every week.

pommpey
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As usual you may have a point.
 
I bet Dowell is happy with his start, bollocking and losing to a conference bottom half team in his first game. How did the D:ream song go?!
 
snootyfenooty said:
The problem with that argument is that Norwood being touted as our JTW marquee signing means that he wasn't one of our summer signings, although he was as a loan-to-buy. Juggling signings around like this dilutes our already miserly approach in the transfer market and makes us look stupid as a so called ambitious club, especially considering our league position. As pointed out above we don't have a Brooks coming through so the 1st XI will be pawned off at some point and we will be left with the rest. Worrying times ahead if we don't go up.
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It can be interpreted in whatever way people choose to suit an argument, as pommpey has done. However, the reality is that he has played on loan since August/ September, done really well and the deal was always going through in Jan on a permanent deal. Theres nothing wrong with doing what the club has done and announce that it has been ratified. They've certainly not dressed it up as a new signing.

If we don't go up then i'm guessing it will be more of the same in the summer. I don't see a huge need to get permanent deals done in January, loans will also be fine, if we can add to the quality in the already excellent side, then all the better.
 
metalblade said:
He can count me out of watching any team with Gary fuckin Madine in the 18. Fuck off Wilder you knobhead if you want a big lump up front go get Akinfenwah or someone without the baggage. To me wanting a thug up front is just admitting your style of football has failed or maybe this is your high water mark.
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I know you well enough over the years metal but this is harsh even by your standards. You’re no idiot so stick with me on this one :)

Perhaps he has seen that we overplay and need an option to get balls into the box early. Perhaps he sees Madine as that man. Whatever your views on him he does present himself as a target man. He can hold the ball up. He isn’t my first choice either but Wilder has turned Leon around, made winners out of Freeman and Coutts (how bad did he used to be). If we get to 70 minutes in and need to change our plan Madine does offer something different that on occasion (v’s pigs for instance) we were crying out for.

If everyone puts down their slings and bows for a minute perhaps we can at least acknowledge there is a use for the bloke. Wilder will have talked to Billy and the rest, he will have thought about what he is getting. It’s a loan so we aren’t buying unless he impresses. He says he wants to play for us. That is a good thing because I don’t know about you but I have seen enough players through the club who don’t want to actually turn up and graft. Madine is going to have to do twice as much as anyone else just to get merit. Don’t you think?
 
Fulwood Blade said:
YOU obviously haven't taken note of how Dowell is going to play in the team.

the ones who take notice actually know.

UTB
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Yellarbellyblade said:
Bit early to write Dowell off don’t you think? First game for a while and not exactly surrounded by high performing colleagues today. Prefer to judge him later on myself
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It's unreasonable to judge Dowell on today's performance in a team that was completely at odds with itself. It might have been different if we had started with the finishing eleven.

Until Basham came on Freeman looked lost and for what it's worth I thought Dowell was one of the better performers
 
Nick Jansky said:
After one game when he hasn’t played much football recently? Get real.
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Dowell has been playing week in week out for Everton U23s.

He has had more than enough minutes this season. Baring in mind the Premiership U23s are a higher standard than Barnet. Or at least similar.

First game for a new club, he should have been busting his bollocks off in effort. Sorry but I didn’t see it .
 
Wilder picked the side and takes no responsibility?

Puts all the blame on the players?

Ok. In Wilder we trust I guess (unless he's on about signing Public Enemy Number One of course, then he's not quite the Messiah)
 



Grey Blade said:
It's unreasonable to judge Dowell on today's performance in a team that was completely at odds with itself. It might have been different if we had started with the finishing eleven.

Until Basham came on Freeman looked lost and for what it's worth I thought Dowell was one of the better performers
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Agreed about the 11 - we needed certain players in certain key positions and we didn't have that at the start.

UTB
 
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