Wilder

[CarlMcBlade]

With the Prince in charge and the way he is now running the club with a very limited transfer budget …. Wilder is the best option as I doubt many other decent managers would want to come and work for Prince Abdullah!

Yes, it seems pointless getting rid of Wilder until the Prince eventually goes. If/When we do somehow get a new owner, I think that’s when Chris Wilders association with SUFC comes to a natural end.

 

[71Blade]

Brooks is a good player with a good future for sure. But he’s not a holding midfielder

Neither is Norwood

 

[Balham]

Don't disagree with any of that, and I'd want to see the stats, but i just don't think we run any further than other teams. In terms of 'hard runs' i don't see most of our team sprinting any more than the opposition. For me it's more we're just operating in different physical sphere to teams at the elite level. We're a Beta max in a digital steaming world....

I don't think we are anomalous on any of those stats either. The other result of us not having the ball is that the players don't get any respite which must be mentally exhausting.

 

[Bladezz]

Neither is Norwood

He is he’s just not very well suited for the PL

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

I don't think we are anomalous on any of those stats either. The other result of us not having the ball is that the players don't get any respite which must be mentally exhausting.

Thought today we did (stats may prove me wrong) and not sure mental exhaustion causes cramp.

One of the most embarrassing moments of the season happened today. It wasnt us shipping countless goals at home, it was one for our defenders going down with cramp and one of their players helping stretch them....

 

[Bladezz]

Thought today we did (stats may prove me wrong) and not sure mental exhaustion causes cramp.

One of the most embarrassing moments of the season happened today. It wasnt us shipping countless goals at home, it was one for our defenders going down with cramp and one of their players helping stretch them....

We have been unfit since minute one of the season. It’s impossible to do mid season.

 

[Jan Age]

Not good enough for Borough not good enough for Watford but somehow the messiah at the lane.. fuck off

 

[Newbury Blade]

Not good enough for Borough not good enough for Watford but somehow the messiah at the lane.. fuck off

What an attitude. Why don’t you fuck off.

 

[UddersBlade]

No one will ever or ever should take away what Wilder achieved between Aug 2016 and Jul 2021.

However it was & still is a risk him coming back & this may tarnish his first spell. I was not sure about him returning, but happy to give him next season to see if he can rebuild. As in other posts, I just can’t see who else is better placed or would want to do this job working for Prince Abdullah under current budget restrictions.

 

[Newbury Blade]

If the JD is run about for 20 mins, tackle anything that moves, track runners and bring energy/intensity onto the pitch - not sure on what planet Norwood ticks any of those boxes.

The fact we don't have kids in the academy that don't meet those criteria speaks volumes. Shouldn't Coulibally and Peck be better suited to doing that than Norwood??

Paul Heckinbottom, Lord Lucan, Gerry McCann, Bill Cosby.... You get the drift...

If the drift is that you’re an idiot who can’t even spell the name of our last manager.

 

[Newbury Blade]

Oh but we got 100 goals in 2017..May conceded the same this season in 8 fewer games.

“this guy” …

 

[Jan Age]

What an attitude. Why don’t you fuck off.

Why don’t you?

Wilder righty has a big place in our history but he’s done nothing since returning…

Hard reset needed manager, owner and players but I guess you’re one of those rise tinted types

 

[leppingslaneblade]

I'd rather he didn't tinker with a winning team but if he must then for goodness sake don't take off McB who can defend our box , don't take off Osborne who's done well , don't put on Trusty who's shit at LB , don't put on Norwood who isn't mobile and do put on Brooks who can actually run like a footballer , whatever position you think he normally plays.

I take it you were at the game. Mcburnie was blowing out of his arse as were several others. The problem we have is there are no options on the bench.

 

[Newbury Blade]

Why don’t you?

Wilder righty has a big place in our history but he’s done nothing since returning…

Hard reset needed manager, owner and players but I guess you’re one of those rise tinted types

It’s not about that, it’s about the crude, ignorant way you dismiss one of our most successful managers with “fuck off”. I just don’t understand how someone who claims to support our club can talk about Chris Wilder in those terms. You may or may not be right about whether he is the best manager for next season, I have my doubts, but it’s just the rudeness, the lack of respect, it’s what it’s saying about you, not him.

 

[AWetFlannel]

Not good enough for Borough not good enough for Watford but somehow the messiah at the lane.. fuck off

Yep, we need a manger that has had success everywhere they've been. Hecky failed at numerous clubs before getting us promoted, as did Bassett.

Moronic argument.

 

[Younger Dryas Blade]

In Wilder we trust? This was the phrase yesteryear (and with validation).

Since then his career has nosedived. Like it or not, under skint flint Abdullah he's going to be given the task of a complete rebuild of our playing squad in the summer.

It's going to be either a miracle of frees and loans this summer that will get us back up, or it's going to drag us down back towards the doldrums.

Personally I won't blame Wilder if it implodes. Abdullah is the problem.

 

[LondonRoad]

Wilder is the best person to take this shit show of a football club forward next season.
Any other manager would only be there for the contract and pay off after failure.
Wilders previous tenure went wrong because he wanted more more for SUFC, than the owner was prepared to support.

 

[FinBlade]

I cheered Wilder when he arrived and made changes - like not picking Norwood, who was done last season in Championship level - but now everytime we've Norwood on the pitch, we have conceded and lost points.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

If the drift is that you’re an idiot who can’t even spell the name of our last manager.

Oooh you're clever aren't you?!?! Comes on an internet forum and calls one person an idiot and tells another to 'fuck off' and then talks preaches about showing respect... Fuck me, bet an hour in the pub with you feels like a lifetime!!

 

[Bladezz]

No one will ever or ever should take away what Wilder achieved between Aug 2016 and Jul 2021.

However it was & still is a risk him coming back & this may tarnish his first spell. I was not sure about him returning, but happy to give him next season to see if he can rebuild. As in other posts, I just can’t see who else is better placed or would want to do this job working for Prince Abdullah under current budget restrictions.

You do realise since he’s come back results have massively improved and that we aren’t even the worst team in the league since his arrival and we would be 3 points of safety if the season started when it did.

This coupled with Heckys terrible signings and having an unfit side with zero confidence is a remarkable turn around. Even though we still aren’t the best the results have greatly improved.

 

[Bladezz]

I cheered Wilder when he arrived and made changes - like not picking Norwood, who was done last season in Championship level - but now everytime we've Norwood on the pitch, we have conceded and lost points.

There’s no one else unfortunately. Next season he will be moved on and replaced.

 

[Bladezz]

In Wilder we trust? This was the phrase yesteryear (and with validation).

Since then his career has nosedived. Like it or not, under skint flint Abdullah he's going to be given the task of a complete rebuild of our playing squad in the summer.

It's going to be either a miracle of frees and loans this summer that will get us back up, or it's going to drag us down back towards the doldrums.

Personally I won't blame Wilder if it implodes. Abdullah is the problem.

I actually will blame the recruitment. We will be making 6/7 first team signings which is incredibly difficult. We get it right we have a good shot if we sign 6 duds then we are in serious trouble.

Signing Grbic shows Wilder isn’t in charge of all signings but does have some say in BBD and Holgate.

But we don’t know who the Head of Recruitment is. My only worry is we are falling so far behind.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

Supersub Norwood...

Fuck me, how has Wilder not learned yet. Norwood is beyond done at this level. Any previous positional defensive benefits of him being on no longer apply. Different team mates, different league. Even if that wasn't the case his own shortcomings would more than make up for it. You won't find a less physically able player in the top 2 divisions. It's embarrassing

Anybody who can run would have been a better choice to bring on, especially considering Fulham's subs (their bench was excellent). That should have been Brooks. Slimane would have even made more sense

Wilder himself has spoken about players who shouldn't still be here. If that doesn't apply to Norwood I don't know who it does. Yet he continues to rely on him significantly, when there's no need to do so. Same thing again and again, expecting different results

A shout out to Tom Davies as well though. His latest absence sums up perfectly what's killing us. Injuries lead to a shit bench. Shit fitness leads to us resorting to our shit bench. Invariably strong opponents bench changes the game. Would be bad enough with 3 subs, but no, there's 5. Hideous amount of added time finishes us off

It's demoralising, we are largely powerless, but Wilder is not helping us with some of these decisions. Everybody's got to be right at it for us to win games. That includes the manager

 

[Bladezz]

Supersub Norwood...

Fuck me, how has Wilder not learned yet. Norwood is beyond done at this level. Any previous positional defensive benefits of him being on no longer apply. Different team mates, different league. Even if that wasn't the case his own shortcomings would more than make up for it. You won't find a less physically able player in the top 2 divisions. It's embarrassing

Anybody who can run would have been a better choice to bring on, especially considering Fulham's subs (their bench was excellent). That should have been Brooks. Slimane would have even made more sense

Wilder himself has spoken about players who shouldn't still be here. If that doesn't apply to Norwood I don't know who it does. Yet he continues to rely on him significantly, when there's no need to do so. Same thing again and again, expecting different results

A shout out to Tom Davies as well though. His latest absence sums up perfectly what's killing us. Injuries lead to a shit bench. Shit fitness leads to us resorting to our shit bench. Invariably strong opponents bench changes the game. Would be bad enough with 3 subs, but no, there's 5. Hideous amount of added time finishes us off

It's demoralising, we are largely powerless, but Wilder is not helping us with some of these decisions. Everybody's got to be right at it for us to win games. That includes the manager

Unfortunately we don’t have any other options in defensive midfield. We are having to play one of midfielders at LWB.

If Davies was fit he would start ahead of Souza and we would have brought Souza on not Norwood. Wilder clearly doesn’t rate Norwood as he never plays him. He even said after the game in his interview his substitutes are forced.

So maybe he knows Norwood isn’t the answer but he has no other options.

 

[Weasel]

Anyone who had a pair of eyes in their heads could see that Norwood (like John Fleck) had run his race with us by the middle part of last season and was basically done. He just didn't have the legs anymore. A lot of us were saying this at the time and couldn't work out why Hecky was insistent in keeping Norwood in the team whilst having Doyle on the bench (along with McAtee). It got to the point where we were chucking promotion away until finally, old Hecky boy finally sees what everyone else has and changes it for Sunderland away which we win, as we have legs again in the middle of the park.

Here we are another year on and still no legs Norwood is getting on the pitch. He should have been let go at the end of last season and replaced. If he is still here next season I think will just go fishing on a Saturday instead. I would like to think CW isn't daft enough to offer him a new deal but you can never discount United when it comes to making bizarre decisions.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

Unfortunately we don’t have any other options in defensive midfield. We are having to play one of midfielders at LWB.

If Davies was fit he would start ahead of Souza and we would have brought Souza on not Norwood. Wilder clearly doesn’t rate Norwood as he never plays him. He even said after the game in his interview his substitutes are forced.

So maybe he knows Norwood isn’t the answer but he has no other options.

Honestly, he's such a liability it would be better to play someone out of position. Brooks, Slimane, Holgate.... anyone but Norwood

 

[Bladezz]

Honestly, he's such a liability it would be better to play someone out of position. Brooks, Slimane, Holgate.... anyone but Norwood

Brooks a winger not a defensive midfielder.

Slimane looks LG2 level.

Holgate… is an interesting one but that would have been changing 2 defenders into midfield which if we conceded would lead to even more critical analysis.

Norwood isn’t the answer but unfortunately there’s no one else.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

Brooks a winger not a defensive midfielder.

Slimane looks LG2 level.

Holgate… is an interesting one but that would have been changing 2 defenders into midfield which if we conceded would lead to even more critical analysis.

Norwood isn’t the answer but unfortunately there’s no one else.

Brooks isn't a winger. He's a LCM, currently. Which would have been the place for him yesterday, over towards where Traore was. Osborn is experienced enough to throw into the middle for the last 10 chaotic minutes.... and he can run

We had 3 or 4 fit, mobile young players on the bench to bring on. Norwood shouldn't have got near the pitch

In fact I never want to see him on the pitch again. It's pointless, self destructive and only taints what has been a great period of service

 

[Pintor75]

I can only think Wilder is giving Norwood playing time to trigger some appearance bonus before he's ditched (hopefully) at the end of the season

 

[Bell4]

Wilder is playing the 3rd choice left wing back in Osborn. That all our fans wanted out. Now demanding he is only kept at left wing back is just funny

CW moved Ozzie into midfield when he was one of the most effective players in the position he was playing / he replaced him with a slow , clumsy Trusty and opened up the game for Traore who changed the game .

CW takes off our best player in each box , Mcburnie and replaces him with McAtee , why he didn’t put on Osula to maintain an athletic and energetic outlet is beyond me .

CW replaced VS with one of our best ever midfielders who unfortunately shouldn’t be in the squad any longer and is now a liability, he could have resolved Souza with Brooks / see Osula .

Bad management imo