Frank the tank
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I know a silly little piglet when I see onehow would you know - your blind
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I know a silly little piglet when I see onehow would you know - your blind
Too true.
Enjoy your day out with your mates having some beers but remember your supposed to go to a game to watch football and support your team.
After 14 games hecky got 5 points.Proof is in the pudding. Number of points don't lie. Whatever Wilder achievements, he ain't pulling no trees up here. Results counts and he is simply not changed anything in that perspective. He is totally out of his depth in getting results just like PH. We saw that yesterday against Brighton. All if and buts and we nearly got something don’t mean nothing pal.
.....and we have won how many under Wilder?
In fact the first 5 games under PH we looked a lot better than we do now.
There are a few issues with your grammar here and I’m sure someone will soon be along to let you know.How come you can't read and write properly yet?
another good thread thrown off track by facts.Have you seen the incomings so far over the JTW across the whole Premier League?
We’ve actually brought in more than a fair few teams:
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The agenda of the Hecky lovers is coming back after a lossNothing has really changed with Wilder has it really. Results are still shocking . He's no better than PH imo. In fact the first 5 games under PH we looked a lot better than we do now.
It would have been 5-0 …. AgainWe don't come back from 2 down under hecky..
end of chat..
Losing 8-0 at home wasn't a sacking offence under the Prince.Saw one yesterday pal. We lost and conceded five at home. I remember we used to sack the manager when that happened.
The proof isn't in the pudding. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.Proof is in the pudding..
Nah...we'd have probably lost 2-0 at Gillingham under Hecky playing a rigid 5-3-2.It would have been 5-0 …. Again
Slashing wrist time then I get from that.?We look marginally better under Wilder, as at least we look like scoring.
We need a couple of players still.
Problem is that the players we all knew weren't good enough last year are still here - Lowe, Osborn, Fleck, Norwood.
Plus the jury's out on Brewster, McBurnie, Bogle.
Add to this the new players who haven't been good enough, Larouci, Traore, Slimane, Thomas.
We are carrying a lot of baggage. Too much.
Without a transformation in January (which we haven't had), we'll be relegated still but at least we might reach 20 points.
It's change at the top we need as well I'm afraid, as the Prince can't compete either.
Sad times
Still gets me why he came back he will be operating under the same restraints like when he left, shuffling the chairs about trying to get some response out of players what if we're honest are nowhere near prem standard. No money to play with in the window hampers him as well. Forget next season us fans after endure the next 3 months or so watching this side getting pummelled. It must be painful for the players as well as us... onwards to the Palace thenI feel Wilder showed a lack of ambition on Saturday. Relegation is assured, even if some teams above suffer points deductions, so the cup is all we had to have a go at. With that in mind the team he picked was never going to win.
Goalie: unless Wilder knows something we don’t the new goalie is no better than Wes. In fact he may not be as good. Having confirmed the signing the day before he should have given the guy more time to settle.
Defence: without Robinson it’s always weaker and never stood a chance.
Midfield: Whatever made him pick Norwood and Osborn. It’s as though he had no interest in winning. These two should have been sat with Fleck. If he wanted to try different players or tactics, he should have played the youngsters. There was absolutely nothing to gain by playing Norwood or Osborn.
Attack: Why the heck did he start with three strikers. Who does that these days against anyone, never mind a top premier league side.
Wilder has his work cut out to show he still has what it takes. I would love for him to succeed but my confidence has taken a huge knock. Losing by the odd goal is acceptable, but conceding 5 goals at home is definitely not, under any circumstances.
Still alive after Slashing my wrist !Still gets me why he came back he will be operating under the same restraints like when he left, shuffling the chairs about trying to get some response out of players what if we're honest are nowhere near prem standard. No money to play with in the window hampers him as well. Forget next season us fans after endure the next 3 months or so watching this side getting pummelled. It must be painful for the players as well as us... onwards to the Palace then
because it's not worse than when he left. The couple of tough financial years on the back of his previous overspend isn't now an issue.Still gets me why he came back he will be operating under the same restraints like when he left, shuffling the chairs about trying to get some response out of players what if we're honest are nowhere near prem standard. No money to play with in the window hampers him as well. Forget next season us fans after endure the next 3 months or so watching this side getting pummelled. It must be painful for the players as well as us... onwards to the Palace then
Strange assessment.I feel Wilder showed a lack of ambition on Saturday. Relegation is assured, even if some teams above suffer points deductions, so the cup is all we had to have a go at. With that in mind the team he picked was never going to win.
Goalie: unless Wilder knows something we don’t the new goalie is no better than Wes. In fact he may not be as good. Having confirmed the signing the day before he should have given the guy more time to settle.
Defence: without Robinson it’s always weaker and never stood a chance.
Midfield: Whatever made him pick Norwood and Osborn. It’s as though he had no interest in winning. These two should have been sat with Fleck. If he wanted to try different players or tactics, he should have played the youngsters. There was absolutely nothing to gain by playing Norwood or Osborn.
Attack: Why the heck did he start with three strikers. Who does that these days against anyone, never mind a top premier league side.
Wilder has his work cut out to show he still has what it takes. I would love for him to succeed but my confidence has taken a huge knock. Losing by the odd goal is acceptable, but conceding 5 goals at home is definitely not, under any circumstances.
Maybe, unlike you, he hasn't given up on coming 17th ?I feel Wilder showed a lack of ambition on Saturday. Relegation is assured, even if some teams above suffer points deductions, so the cup is all we had to have a go at. With that in mind the team he picked was never going to win.
Goalie: unless Wilder knows something we don’t the new goalie is no better than Wes. In fact he may not be as good. Having confirmed the signing the day before he should have given the guy more time to settle.
Defence: without Robinson it’s always weaker and never stood a chance.
Midfield: Whatever made him pick Norwood and Osborn. It’s as though he had no interest in winning. These two should have been sat with Fleck. If he wanted to try different players or tactics, he should have played the youngsters. There was absolutely nothing to gain by playing Norwood or Osborn.
Attack: Why the heck did he start with three strikers. Who does that these days against anyone, never mind a top premier league side.
Wilder has his work cut out to show he still has what it takes. I would love for him to succeed but my confidence has taken a huge knock. Losing by the odd goal is acceptable, but conceding 5 goals at home is definitely not, under any circumstances.
"Poor" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there buddy... I'm struggling to think of a worse Summer of (in) activity...It’s better but still not good enough to make the difference that was needed, but that’s not on Wilder. It’s on poor recruitment previously in my opinion
Yeah some Geoff Capes-esque heavy lifting to be honest…."Poor" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there buddy... I'm struggling to think of a worse Summer of (in) activity...
By comparison the last two Summers of Wilder's first reign look like golden days!!!
10 goals conceded in the last 3 home games!Sixteen attempts on goal
Three on target
Compare that with Heckyball
Winning one would be a struggle!Unless by some crazy gift of FFP Everton and Forest are thrown right in the mixer with a points deduction (2nd one of Everton) we have to get 6 points from the next 3 games and then build on that. Although sounds hard (ooh err) Palace away, Villa Home and Luton away it isn't impossible to do that to put us on 16 points. We almost have to look at a segment of games as a mini season. In bold are possibly the "easiest" of wins if we took 6 points from each of the remaining "Segments" of games. With another win in there, I have put this in the last 5 fixtures it would give us a further 27 points finishing on 37. Although a huge ask, if the clubs wants to remain in the Premier League this is the type of "task" it needs to achieve. 37 was enough last season. Otherwise I can genuinely see us down after the Luton game if we don't win any of the next 3.
Palace (Away)
Villa (Home)
Luton (Away)
Brighton (Home)
Wolves (Away)
Bournemouth (Away)
Man United (Away)
Fulham (Home)
Liverpool (Away)
Chelsea (Home)
Brentford (Away)
Burnley (Home)
Newcastle (Away)
Forest (Home)
Everton (Away)
Tottenham (Home)
We were down when we played Palace......in August!Unless by some crazy gift of FFP Everton and Forest are thrown right in the mixer with a points deduction (2nd one of Everton) we have to get 6 points from the next 3 games and then build on that. Although sounds hard (ooh err) Palace away, Villa Home and Luton away it isn't impossible to do that to put us on 16 points. We almost have to look at a segment of games as a mini season. In bold are possibly the "easiest" of wins if we took 6 points from each of the remaining "Segments" of games. With another win in there, I have put this in the last 5 fixtures it would give us a further 27 points finishing on 37. Although a huge ask, if the clubs wants to remain in the Premier League this is the type of "task" it needs to achieve. 37 was enough last season. Otherwise I can genuinely see us down after the Luton game if we don't win any of the next 3.
Palace (Away)
Villa (Home)
Luton (Away)
Brighton (Home)
Wolves (Away)
Bournemouth (Away)
Man United (Away)
Fulham (Home)
Liverpool (Away)
Chelsea (Home)
Brentford (Away)
Burnley (Home)
Newcastle (Away)
Forest (Home)
Everton (Away)
Tottenham (Home)
Charity boxing match would be good for the forum.
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