Wilder skulking off at the end of the game

[54yrblade]

The fact that they will degrading him is firm evidence of just how needy he and his supporters are.

They'll forgive him anything. Walk out a few yrs ago - all good. Waste money on crap strikers - all good. Act like a Saturday night drunk in pubs and on the field at Plymouth - hero status, and justifying 'one of our own' disappearing when HIS boys needed their manager with them at a seriously bad time - well, that's all good too.

The mutual need between Wilder and his followers is now toxic.

They want to be him. He represents them, their lifestyles and, in reality, their own limitations too.

He is a manager.
His leadership credentials are in tatters.

He's had a great run but it's done.

** degrading - forgive

 

[PrestwichBlade]

Well I was in the British Army for a good few years, so maybe I do. Maybe also, I don't get vexed about our football club manager not being stood with the players for 5 mins at the end of a football game, when he can do that after the match sometime in the changing room. Maybe we just have a lot of precious fans who love to be outraged on behalf of others. Maybe

I'm not outraged, but the bloke is always banging on about how we're all in it together (or similar), he's happy to be front and centre when it's good, so what about when it's not? He can't have it both ways. He's just inconsistent and that's crap leadership in my view. Thanks for your years of service by the way.

 

[Le Cynique]

Go on then, hit me with one…

That’s the point though, isn’t it? Houston_Blade is a fan like the rest of us, so it’s not incumbent on him to find the replacement, and nor would it be sensible for him to do so. The board need to sort this and ignore people who say we need Bladey Bladeness because that kind of parochial thinking only gets you so far, as we’ve seen. If we really want to move to the next level, we need someone who can lead the team there, and that includes employing the right tactics, getting the right personnel in (and crucially, playing them in the right positions) and putting the right culture in place. The person to do that probably won’t be a Blade, and I’m fine with that because the other criteria are more pressing and important.

 

[Bladesince59]

For God's sake, GO

 

[thehet]

That’s the point though, isn’t it? Houston_Blade is a fan like the rest of us, so it’s not incumbent on him to find the replacement, and nor would it be sensible for him to do so. The board need to sort this and ignore people who say we need Bladey Bladeness because that kind of parochial thinking only gets you so far, as we’ve seen. If we really want to move to the next level, we need someone who can lead the team there, and that includes employing the right tactics, getting the right personnel in (and crucially, playing them in the right positions) and putting the right culture in place. The person to do that probably won’t be a Blade, and I’m fine with that because the other criteria are more pressing and important.

I’m not asking him to find the replacement. If he wants someone “outside the box” he ought to be able to describe what the box is and give an inkling, perhaps even an example, of someone who might fit the bill.

 

[Bladesince59]

Wilder is spent. He needs to walk and take his useless backroom staff with him. How the fuck all our forward players can only play 60 minutes?

Fortunately Cannon can only play 10

 

[Nick Jansky]

I’m not asking him to find the replacement. If he wants someone “outside the box” he ought to be able to describe what the box is and give an inkling, perhaps even an example, of someone who might fit the bill.

I’ve mentioned the guy at Bodo Glimt on here a couple of times now. Other than that, the club should be trying to identify the next Glasner or Iraola. They are out there.

 

[Pintor75]

I like Campbell but you want two things from a striker. Consistent performances that result in goals. This then could lead to other clubs coming in for them and a big sale that buys a replacement and bank rolls other signings (like it or lump it with FFP that's the modern way).

Unless we can get 90 minutes out of him Campbell will never tick either of these boxes. We'll always have a 60 minute bit part striker.

Don't get me wrong, I like him, he's class. But he's Lys Mousset part 2. Unreliable due to fitness issues and we'll never play a settled 11 every game while he's in and out of the team every other week.

Agree, I've said many times he now knows after 60 mins he can look at the bench to say "take me off", he's a good striker but we need a 90 minute man when defenders are getting tired

 

[thehet]

I’ve mentioned the guy at Bodo Glimt on here a couple of times now. Other than that, the club should be trying to identify the next Glasner or Iraola. They are out there.

Glasner and Iraola have gone into well established, well backed PL clubs with PL standard infrastructure and whilst they’ve been successful this season the competition (to stay up) hasn’t been great.

Getting out of this league requires an unbelievable amount of points, in fact Regis Le Bris is probably up there with only a few that have done it at their first attempt after coming in from overseas and ordinarily they’d have scraped into the playoffs.

I’m not convinced we need some unproven newbie from the far corners of Europe to be able to accumulate more points.

We need some more players like Coops and Burrows to replace those that need to go like JLT and Anel.

 

[54yrblade]

Alexander Blessin - St Pauli. Plays great football and part of a huge city wide footballing community. Keeping a small team in 1 Bundesliga is great work. He can bring Jackson Ervine with him as skipper too. Incredible athlete, intelligent, bi lingual, community leader and minded and emotionally aware.

Julian Schuster - SC Freiburg. Again, excellent football, plays players in the right positions

When Wilder leaves we need to make a big change.

They're out there. Younger, hungrier, willing to develop and adapt and no emotional baggage with the club and their own football background that complicates football decision making

Hopefully our board are already looking and will know better than us.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Glasner and Iraola have gone into well established, well backed PL clubs with PL standard infrastructure and whilst they’ve been successful this season the competition (to stay up) hasn’t been great.

Iraola’s first season at Bournemouth was all about survival and they were far from well established. Look at what he’s achieved with them since. They are now targeting Europe and looking up rather than down. They are pleasing to watch, too.

Bournemouth’s training ground was finally brought up to PL standard last month. Before that it was worse than ours.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

I’ve mentioned the guy at Bodo Glimt on here a couple of times now. Other than that, the club should be trying to identify the next Glasner or Iraola. They are out there.

Hernan Crespo or Thomas Stamm.

 

[UddersBlade]

We have 1 more season of £38 million parachute payment - so we have No room for error now. If Wilder goes - whoever comes in has to be better & win promotion. Make no mistake - season 26/27 will be very different if we miss out in 12 months time. Hence why I’m conflicted about whether Wilder should go or not.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Go on then, hit me with one…

Not really my responsibility to find one, I’ll leave that to the board.

 

[Pintor75]

Will Still and Liam Manning look to be signed up

 

[Gin&Juice]

should resign in dignity.

Fraud of a man.

Coward.

All talk.


Boooooooooooooo

 

[Davalon]

Some good names suggested above but I do worry how a significant section of our fanbase would react to a foreign coach, especially following Wilder.

Patience would be non-existent with them.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Some good names suggested above but I do worry how a significant section of our fanbase would react to a foreign coach, especially following Wilder.

Patience would be non-existent with them.

See GBC to gauge the general feeling of forrins

 

[Davalon]

See GBC to gauge the general feeling of forrins

I certainly think that plays a part for some but I think for others it's more about being obsessed with having someone with connections to the club.

 

[Chazzer]

Wilder's erratic behaviour is reminiscent of Brian Clough at the end of his reign at Forest. A manager with a very successful record whose time is clearly up.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

He needs to leave.

He’s had another interview where we’ve bottled a big game and he’s talking about the stats not backing up the result.

This is the bloke who said “you can stick your data”.

He’s a hypocrite and out of his depth.

Some fans buy into the parochialism but the smart ones see straight through it. Get a proper manager in, one we can build a transfer and playing strategy around. Then give them the time and money to implement it.

Wilder’s football this season has been shite, his fitness record has been shite and his ability to spend money is shite. Get rid.

Don’t get fucking Steve Cooper in either, think outside the box for once and ignore the dunces in our fan base.

Perfectly put mate.

He's just not fit for purpose at the head of an elite sporting programme in 2025.

The lack of fitness in our better players is alarming. Why the hell Campbell, Hamer, Souza, Peck all look knackered after 60mins... That's an issue which is easily identified and remedied, but not by this coaching team.

£10m on Cannon and finishing the season with JLT and no fit and serviceable RB is the one which gets me...

 

[Le Cynique]

Some good names suggested above but I do worry how a significant section of our fanbase would react to a foreign coach, especially following Wilder.

Patience would be non-existent with them.

The board will be stuck between a rock and a hard place though, as a significant section of our fanbase is already disgruntled with having a self-described Blade in charge of affairs and will be similarly unimpressed by another manager in the same mould.

For me, either choice will fracture the support, so why stick with the same approach that has proven to be fruitless?

 

[Hillsboro Blade]

Maybe he was busting for a dump, shit happens.

 

[Blade56]

In the radio interview next morning Wilder said he’ll be back 1st July apparently with owners blessing?

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

The board will be stuck between a rock and a hard place though, as a significant section of our fanbase is already disgruntled with having a self-described Blade in charge of affairs and will be similarly unimpressed by another manager in the same mould.

For me, either choice will fracture the support, so why stick with the same approach that has proven to be fruitless?

Why not leave the opinion of fans alone and focus on who is the best person to create and run an elite sporting programme in 2025 and beyond?

I don't care who it is, where they're from or what team they support. If they have a clear vision of how they're going to approach games, a conditioning programme that gets the very best out of them and ultimately gives us something to get behind - then I don't care if they speak through a translator. Whathisface who was at Leeds seemed to do ok as a foreigner with no English, but you could clearly see a strategy and vision ...

 

[Le Cynique]

Why not leave the opinion of fans alone and focus on who is the best person to create and run an elite sporting programme in 2025 and beyond?

I don't care who it is, where they're from or what team they support. If they have a clear vision of how they're going to approach games, a conditioning programme that gets the very best out of them and ultimately gives us something to get behind - then I don't care if they speak through a translator. Whathisface who was at Leeds seemed to do ok as a foreigner with no English, but you could clearly see a strategy and vision ...

Exactly this, especially as they’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t. All things being equal then, why would they not go for the option that has the most chance of success?

 

[Yoonitedite]

He was on the Talksport show with Tony Cascarono and Natalie Sawyer at 9.35am.

He sounded really down, said last night was very difficult for him, his family and the players.
He said they stayed at the Hilton last night and he can still see the Wembley Arches from where he’s standing, said he bumped into Nathan Jones (the Charlton Athletic manager), last night and told him it’s place for losers, so wishes them the best of luck for their game today against Leyton Orient.

Wilder thanked the owners for their kind words of support last night and said he’s confident they are very much committed and here for the long haul.
He also said he’s received a text last night from his friend Paul Heation who has invited him to his concert today at Bramall Labe, so he may go there.

Said he needs a little break away from football with the family, he then thanked his family and friends (Unitedites) for their support. Said he’ll return with batteries refreshed and up for the fight and mentioned all the positives at the club, regards the stature of the club and the young players coming through. Wilder also said he understood the negativity he’s receiving on social media,

When the interview finished Cas and Natalie praised Wilder for showing leadership by showing his face the morning after a defeat.
They said they haven’t seen any negativity towards him on social media, both agreed that very few managers would face the media when they’re in pain.
They also read out a text from a Liverpool fan praising Wilder for giving an interview so soon after a bad defeat.

To be honest…it’s true….it does show leadership to face the music so quickly after a massive disappointment.

Im sorry mate bjt proper leadership is standing on the pitch with your tesm watching Sunderland lift the trophy,sucking it up and taking your medicine.
The blokes a fraud and its time he found the good grace to let an ego free football innovator get the best from the players at his disposal.
He didn't and has failed.
Sketchy man equals sketchy football.
Thanks but time's up.

 

[robbiez666]

In the radio interview next morning Wilder said he’ll be back 1st July apparently with owners blessing?

Great. Not like we'd want to sign any up whose contracts are running out...

 

[JT89]

Wilder cannot be trusted with a chequebook anymore.

Moore - only plays well with a partner, played up top alone for large parts
Cannon - expensive flop (see Moore)

Spending a significant fee on 2 strikers who only play well with a partner, then refusing to play 2 up front for most of the season. How anyone can still defend Wilder and want him to stay genuinely baffles me.

 

[Sportbilly /Detroit Blade]

It's the post match interviews that get me.

Almost never takes any responsibility, I'd respect him a lot more if he did.