Wilder - Pre 'Boro RS Interview & Transfer Bids

[Kenilworth]

Here for your delectation - almost 14 mins of Gidds and Mester Wilder

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06gqg06

 

[Kenilworth]

"the best team got picked for saturday - for the opposition - whether they didn't do enough leading up to it or for tactical reasons"

paraphrased but that's the gist of CW opinion on the choice of starting XI
Looks like Duffy and Billy have a lot to do to get into the side.
- yet we seem to be far more effective when they are picked

 

[essyoueffsee]

Cute

 

[Bashar Al Asaba]

Best team for the opposition eh?

He must've thought Swansea were going to be shit then.

 

[Eric Cartman]

"the best team got picked for saturday - for the opposition - whether they didn't do enough leading up to it or for tactical reasons"

This is arrogant and wrong quite frankly.

I hate when we set up to accomodate the opposition. If Blackwell or Clough had dropped Duffy in favour of a flat midfield then tried to justify it by saying it was 'the best team for the opposition' people would be going bat shit crazy.

 

[pesch the mini genius]

worryingly that he is talking about the opposition in relation to the team he picks especially for home games

this is not what CW has been like for the 2 years he has been here - it was always about what is our best team and what damage can we do to them,

 

[Kenilworth]

Admitted that Waghorn xfer fee was not on a level "club to club as well as personals" of what others were offering.
Waghorns personal terms advised by agent were well over where CW feels comfortable for club at the stage we are at.

Has made offers for a couple more perms and some loans - waiting to see
Annoyed about rescheduling of game for tomorrow night in the last week of the transfer window.
If we don't succeed with permanent signings this week then there is still 3 weeks of the loan window open.

JO'C - no second bid - "unless summat happens in the next three days that make the owners take action"

Woodburn settling in and will play a big part in a 50 game season

 

[essyoueffsee]

I wish we weren't talking about the loan market before the window shuts. Total lack of ambition.

 

[Eric Cartman]

If we don't succeed with permanent signings this week then there is still 3 weeks of the loan window open.

Thats more like it

 

[stringjunior]

I wish we weren't talking about the loan market before the window shuts. Total lack of ambition.

Really? Or just dealing with the reality of the situation?

I wish we never HAD to take a loanee, but we can bid for permanents all we like (and apparently we are) but if the selling club aren't prepared to sell what other option do we have? The loan market.

Remember, this is an odd transfer window this year what with the world cup and the shorter window.

 

[Beans]

I wish we weren't talking about the loan market before the window shuts. Total lack of ambition.

Bear in mind that clubs can (and will) take a player on loan in the next few weeks with an agreement to buy them permanently in January. Essentially the transfer deadline is Aug 31, not Aug 9th (although of course the sooner we can sign players, the better).

 

[Boxer Blade]

Did Chris say at the beginning of the interview he picked the best team(tactics) regarding who we were playing and that in this division it's what we have to do? I seem to remember early last season that Chris said we set up how we want to play no matter who we are playing, we have our way and we we wont (generally ) change it. I am not having a go but if I have got that right then we have quickly changed how we go about matters compared to last season.

 

[Eric Cartman]

Did Chris say at the beginning of the interview he picked the best team(tactics) regarding who we were playing and that in this division it's what we have to do? I seem to remember early last season that Chris said we set up how we want to play no matter who we are playing, we have our way and we we wont (generally ) change it. I am not having a go but if I have got that right then we have quickly changed how we go about matters compared to last season.

If so it's really disappointing. Not listened to it myself though.

 

[brownie4583]

"the best team got picked for saturday - for the opposition - whether they didn't do enough leading up to it or for tactical reasons"

paraphrased but that's the gist of CW opinion on the choice of starting XI
Looks like Duffy and Billy have a lot to do to get into the side.
- yet we seem to be far more effective when they are picked

Can’t play Evans and Lundstram with Fleck,got to be one of those 2 and either Duffy or Woodburn as a number 10,not attacking and creative enough

 

[Davalon]

Hope he's not going down the Wilson and Clough route

 

[JKBlade]

If so it's really disappointing. Not listened to it myself though.

Would argue that he’s been doing this for a while. We played 3 in midfield plenty of times last season, and for the second half of the season always against the best sides.

Why the successful shape and attacking mindset was ever changed from league one into the great start last season I don’t understand.

 

[Esablade]

Satan help thee S2 boards if we lose to Boro...

 

[Jonboy60]

Hate it when managers, not just CW, say, we lost this player, or we lost that player. We lost player x, to club A, or in the case of Traore, “Middlesbrough have lost a great player, Traore.” If its a figure of speech fine. Otherwise you’ve lost f**k all. You either didn’t offer enough for player x, or player Y, was sold because, we needed the cash, he wanted to leave, and you can’t stop a player from leaving if that’s what he wants, or the money was too good to turn down.
You don’t lose any f**ker.

 

[Baxters left nostril]

Looks like the approach has changed slightly somewhat, we seem to be worrying more about the opposition than ourselves. Hope this is no going to be a continuing trend.

 

[bromtom]

I could see that Swansea team being a good team to pick if we were a capable defensive team, but we're not. And that's not shitting on us, we're good but we're an attacking team.

If he wanted to go defensive he should have played what we did at Leicester away in the cup last season because that actually worked, defender (Lafferty/Bryan if fit) in midfield instead of Evans or Lundstram, Fleck/Lundstram/Evans but most importantly Duffy/Woodburn.

Even defensive minded formations we need a Duffy type. Otherwise we may as well play without strikers and have 7 at the back.

 

[Keen Blade]

Chris sounds quite crestfallen. I don't know why we bid for a player whose wages we couldn't afford. We are in dire need of a pacy striker & a creative midfielder with younger legs than Duffy. But Chris doesn't sound hopeful of getting either in as a permanent. What a shame so much in wages has been consumed by his midfield buys last season - Carruthers , Holmes , Leonard , Lundstrom , Evans - none of whom have improved our creativity.
Add to that the worry about having to replace JOC on deadline day and I don't imagine he's getting much sleep at the moment.
Our lack of forward drive + defensive frailty on Saturday made us look relegation candidates and you can be sure he's realized just how hard it's gonna be to get anywhere near 10th this time.
A pivotal 3 days for him.

 

[Large Mendonca]

It kinda works both ways - clubs are entitled to tell us to bollocks with offers as we are to tell them e.g. with O'Connell and Fleck.

I won't build my hopes up for anything permanent this week, but it's not the end of the world if we go with loans.

 

[Bergen Blade]

Would argue that he’s been doing this for a while. We played 3 in midfield plenty of times last season, and for the second half of the season always against the best sides.

Why the successful shape and attacking mindset was ever changed from league one into the great start last season I don’t understand.

I think games like these have affected Wilder's opinion that we can't always get away with playing an attacking midfielder behind two strikers:








I think we'd be foolishly naive to play like that all the time, although we should look to improve Saturday's team, which also wasn't good enough.

 

[robbiez666]

I think games like these have affected Wilder's opinion that we can't always get away with playing an attacking midfielder behind two strikers:








I think we'd be foolishly naive to play like that all the time, although we should look to improve Saturday's team, which also wasn't good enough.

We'd have been stuffed by Wolves and Fulham regardless on formation. They were both on a roll and have significantly better players than we do.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Perhaps he feels / recognises that he was tactically naive at times last season and wants to improve on that.

The fact that things didn’t go to plan on Saturday doesn’t detract from the principle.

 

[robbiez666]

Wow, that's an interview that says it's going to be a long season.

 

[Bladesman]

I think games like these have affected Wilder's opinion that we can't always get away with playing an attacking midfielder behind two strikers:








I think we'd be foolishly naive to play like that all the time, although we should look to improve Saturday's team, which also wasn't good enough.

Pace.

 

[Kenilworth]

Wow, that's an interview that says it's going to be a long season.

It felt like it, didn't it?
He did sound pretty down about the chances of landing anything with any real quality and would have to rely on the loan window

 

[Eric Cartman]

I think games like these have affected Wilder's opinion that we can't always get away with playing an attacking midfielder behind two strikers:








I think we'd be foolishly naive to play like that all the time, although we should look to improve Saturday's team, which also wasn't good enough.

Key being they were all away from home.

 

[FinchleyBlade]

If a premiership club comes in for Wilder, he is off. Does not sound happy in recent interviews.