Wilder OUT - megathread

[Rob86]

We’re up the creek without a paddle.

The squad is very defensive, of the attacking midfielders - Chong & Donovan are League 1 standard. O’Hare is better but will not get goals and isn’t imposing enough on games to do it alone.

I’m not sure anyone else improves this and the current boardroom set up is very unlikely to recruit anyone better anyway.

 

[Salmon Pastures]

He’s a very defensive manager now. Lost a lot of confidence and swagger. Let’s see if he can improve things going forward. Huge few weeks for him to show some skill. If he can’t coach better performances out of this lot then eventually the nil nils will run out and we will start losing matches.

Wilder is defensive in general. I can recall an interview with our beloved Alan Biggs and Alan Knill a couple of years into their first term at United. Knill was saying that in training Wilder would concentrate on the defensive systems and Knill on the attack, despite Knill being a defender. Knill also quipped that if it was up to him we would play total football but Chris would rather prefer a slightly less risky approach. . . . I am pleased that Wilder is still with us right now though.

 

[54yrblade]

CW 1 is history. This version is a shadow of that first incarnation.

I didn't rate CW 2 and last season and, in any ideal world we get shut and get a better manager in.

But, we're as far from an ideal situation as it's possible to get.

He's benefitted from being able to bull**** this lot so, now they've shown us who they really are, he'll be here until they either get a football brain on the board who can grip the problem properly and replace him and the recruitment team or they sh*t the bed again and get shut.

Rinse & repeat it is then, with hopefully less deflection to 'culture' this season.

 

[Iggledybobittybo]

Wilder is yesterday's man please go before the legacy is tainted any further. No attempt to win that match today and even less last week at home which is reprehensible.

 

[Champagneblade]

Read the room, mate.

We’re in difficult circumstances financially managing a decreasing budget.

Yesterday despite it being cagey and a more defensive oriented and disciplined performance, we had 3x the XG of the home team.

A point away against a team that beat a heavily invested Stoke team the prior week.

Pick your moments to have a moan but taking a point at Swansea, in a game we lost at a similar stage last season, isn’t one of them IMHO.

 

[UTB Blade]

Wilder is yesterday's man please go before the legacy is tainted any further. No attempt to win that match today and even less last week at home which is reprehensible.

Yes, if there's one thing I've learned in life, it's that when you're in an incredibly sticky situation, the best course of action is always to sack the person best able to deal with it, and replace him with a complete noob who'll be in over his head through no fault of his own, and then sit and watch as everything comes crashing down. Works every time.

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

If that O’Hare shot had been a few inches lower, this post would not exist and we would have been spared a pointless read.

 

[Super Furry Blades]

If that O’Hare shot had been a few inches lower, this post would not exist and we would have been spared a pointless read.

If Simonsen's penalty was 6 ft lower we could be a established powerhouse now ............

 

[Whiston Blade]

Wilder is yesterday's man please go before the legacy is tainted any further. No attempt to win that match today and even less last week at home which is reprehensible.

Clown.

 

[finlaytheblade]

Clown.

Spot on!

 

[Brian Deane]

If that O’Hare shot had been a few inches lower, this post would not exist and we would have been spared a pointless read.

We got a point

 

[Super Furry Blades]

I didn't want him back ....
However I think we need to keep him now and get behind him ..
Solid if unspectacular start to the season
Lose against Blackburn & another point on rd in Wales....

 

[Keen Blade]

If Simonsen's penalty was 6 ft lower we could be a established powerhouse now ............

That was in L1 , so we'd be a powerhouse in the Championship , not the PL.
And 6ft doesn't make the difference between Venus & Mars.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Anti Wilder posters are blinded by their own set agenda and can't even see it.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Wilder is yesterday's man please go before the legacy is tainted any further. No attempt to win that match today and even less last week at home which is reprehensible.

I'm guessing you missed the match.

 

[I should coco]

Wilder is yesterday's man please go before the legacy is tainted any further. No attempt to win that match today and even less last week at home which is reprehensible.

Foxy / Linz - can we start a new 'General Blades Wilder Out' section, so we can put all this tripe in one place?

 

[FTPE]

Wilder is yesterday's man please go before the legacy is tainted any further. No attempt to win that match today and even less last week at home which is reprehensible.

Your comment and thread certainly is

 

[ATL Recs]

Wilder is yesterday's man please go before the legacy is tainted any further. No attempt to win that match today and even less last week at home which is reprehensible.

I’m all for moving him on
Or was until this past week
At this time we are lucky to have him
He will make bizarre selections tactics etc but if anyone can keep us afloat and steer us through this period ( which is most likely going to get worse) it’s him
Just hope he’s not kept a back door key

 

[OnmiEdson]

Fair point fella, however I wouldn’t have thought 6ft Lower for Simonsen’s penalty would have been enough,
Tim Peake said it was still rising in 2015 and I don’t think it came back down to earth until after lockdown…..

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Yeah! Fucking, BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

 

[Snowflake]

If Simonsen's penalty was 6 ft lower we could be an established powerhouse now ............

Only 6 feet ?

 

[wak1889]

If Simonsen's penalty was 6 ft lower we could be a established powerhouse now ............

Yes the defeat to Huddersfield was entirely due to simonsen missing the 11th penalty, despite him keeping a clean sheet in the game and saving 2 of the first 3 penalties, which meant Huddersfield scored 0 out of 3 , no one else was to blame in a penalty shootout we didn't win despite the opponents not scoring any of the first 3

 

[Stretch]

Well you've wasted your own time posting this drivel mate.

 

[Super Furry Blades]

Yes the defeat to Huddersfield was entirely due to simonsen missing the 11th penalty, despite him keeping a clean sheet in the game and saving 2 of the first 3 penalties, which meant Huddersfield scored 0 out of 3 , no one else was to blame in a penalty shootout we didn't win despite the opponents not scoring any of the first 3

Ok Wak mate chill out it was a bit of a joke
And I was sat in the baking sun at Wembley fir well over 2 hours so I know what happened
But thanks for the reply

 

[wak1889]

Ok Wak mate chill out it was a bit of a joke
And I was sat in the baking sun at Wembley fir well over 2 hours so I know what happened
But thanks for the reply

Me too and it really annoys me when 95% of our fanbase blame simonsen for the defeat just because he wasn't as popular as some of the players who were actually at fault

 

[The Crab]

I’ve been constant in my view that Wilder 1.0 was one of the best, if not the best, I’ve seen in my time. I’ve also been constant in my view that we shouldn’t have gone back to him.

I’ve lost trust in the board, in COH or whatever they call themselves this week. I’ve no love for the Prince either, I’m sure Mcabe is thinking what goes around comes around.

But two wrongs don’t make a right. It might be “the way things are done in the corporate world”. But in my world view of right and wrong, it’s a shithouse trick. What if I bought a burger and then only paid half?

Wilder is a mardy, truculent, chip on both shoulders sod as he has got older and I have no time for his entourage.

All of that being said, he’s the only man at the club that I trust, given the situation we are in

 

[Super Furry Blades]

Me too and it really annoys me when 95% of our fanbase blame simonsen for the defeat just because he wasn't as popular as some of the players who were actually at fault

Agree 100% mate

 

[ancientblade]

I'm certainly no Wilder fan, didn't want him back 2nd time, certainly didn't want him back a 3rd time, but who is going to sack him now? The owners certainly have no clue what they are doing other than thieving, the only bloke who knows a bit about football is Wilder. At this moment in time he is all that stands in between this club falling to pieces. I don't agree with him bringing in older players and his tactics are abysmal but at least he seems to be sorting out our defence, next job is to get the midfield creating and attack scoring. Today's midfield were hopeless, I don't see what Rothwell offers, Peck and Arblaster look lost, the less said about Cannon and Campbell the better. Wilder won't take this team up more chance of us going down, but the owners have fed him a shit sandwich without a sprinkling of sugar on it.

agree 100% with all of that metal more or less said the exact same things to my lad last night and know it was probably the right tactics yesterday to get a result but the tactics are so boring hopefully we bring 3/4 good loan signings in to allow us to be more expansive

 

[HOT CURRIE 10]

I’ve been constant in my view that Wilder 1.0 was one of the best, if not the best, I’ve seen in my time. I’ve also been constant in my view that we shouldn’t have gone back to him.

I’ve lost trust in the board, in COH or whatever they call themselves this week. I’ve no love for the Prince either, I’m sure Mcabe is thinking what goes around comes around.

But two wrongs don’t make a right. It might be “the way things are done in the corporate world”. But in my world view of right and wrong, it’s a shithouse trick. What if I bought a burger and then only paid half?

Wilder is a mardy, truculent, chip on both shoulders sod as he has got older and I have no time for his entourage.

All of that being said, he’s the only man at the club that I trust, given the situation we are in

I agree with paragraph 1,2and 4 of your statement wholeheartedly. Don’t disagree with the others. I’ll give him a dozen matches to try and rekindle something, I’m certainly not a fan of mark 2 and definitely 3 but he’s got a free pass at present. My gripe,and we discussed it at the time is that the club let Keith Andrew’s walk through the door,he was touted well before he left by players at the club.

 

[steve26272]

2 weeks ago I would happily have seen wilder leave

However knowing the shit we’re in now, we need someone who can works the frees market and create a trench mentality

Pick the right general, for the right battle