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KiwiBlabe said:
Has he not earnt it? Nobody predicted we would where we are. He should be rewarded, him, the backroom and players have been immense so far.

Nothing towards you HB, but reading this board makes me despair a little about modern footy. We are pushing for autos, exceeding all expectations and still folk don't want to give those delivering this performance.
Those not wanting Wilder to stick around only need to look towards Stoke to see what chopping and changing gets you.
Wilder interview today is spot on, winning is what matters, style of play and entertainment come a distant 2nd and 3rd to me. Good football = winning football, as taught to me by Harry Bassett
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I'd argue keeping us comfortably in the prem earns him a long contract.
Extend his current one till he's done that.
Assuming he gets us there🙏
 
HarryHaslam said:
The conversation was about us being or not being one of the Favs before the season started. Hence I showed the pre season odds for us and not what we are priced at now.
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I was just comparing the odds swing at this stage of the season and so far the bookies have underestimated our chances by a long way, hopefully it carries on UTB
 
richblade said:
I was just comparing the odds swing at this stage of the season and so far the bookies have underestimated our chances by a long way, hopefully it carries on UTB
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Yes mate vastly underestimated us, I got us at 18s for the league and 5s for promotion before the season started. Got them in accumulators though and a couple of teams are not firing at the moment so cash out is not great, if those two teams start picking up I’ll have a very good cash out option thanks to the blades price if we keep up the form.
 
Thank goodness the Americans aren’t like some idiots on here and realise having a major asset with not much time on his deal is a bad thing.

Seems like it’s their first port of call is to renew his contract. Excellent all round.
 
Houston_Blade said:
Not this again, no one’s taking him. Let him stay and work for it instead of giving him a new contract every time we win a few games. We made this mistake in his first spell!
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Good job they don’t listen to you and they actually have an idea what they should do.
 

Name me a Premiership club who hasn’t got an expensive flop in their squad.

We spent a huge amount on Brewster and at the time we all agreed with Wilders decision.

Wilder has bought & brought some of the best players we’ve seen at this club in recent years.

Unfortunately not every deal works out & when you’re in the Premiership the ones that don’t work out tend to be expensive flops. I think he’s got enough credit in the bank though to forgive him for 8/9 bad ones when he’s had 20/30 good ones.

Giving him a new deal is the best decision all around, clubs need certainty it perform at their best. I don’t think that new deal should be much more than two years though.
 
Millhousesblade1889 said:
Name me a Premiership club who hasn’t got an expensive flop in their squad.

We spent a huge amount on Brewster and at the time we all agreed with Wilders decision.

Wilder has bought & brought some of the best players we’ve seen at this club in recent years.

Unfortunately not every deal works out & when you’re in the Premiership the ones that don’t work out tend to be expensive flops. I think he’s got enough credit in the bank though to forgive him for 8/9 bad ones when he’s had 20/30 good ones.

Giving him a new deal is the best decision all around, clubs need certainty it perform at their best. I don’t think that new deal should be much more than two years though.
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Brewster was one of the leading lights in the age group that came through with the likes MGW and won multiple age group championships. Had he never had all those back to back injuries who knows what he might have been. Sadly, it looks like, at Bramall Lane at least, we'll probably never know either.
 
I’d be happy to wait until the end of the season, but if the new owners do want to extend him now, it should only be for next season with an option for the club to extend a further year.
 
YES Blade said:
I’d be happy to wait until the end of the season, but if the new owners do want to extend him now, it should only be for next season with an option for the club to extend a further year.
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And why would that be? To keep him on his toes? The average football managers job is 18 months at best.
 
YES Blade said:
I’d be happy to wait until the end of the season, but if the new owners do want to extend him now, it should only be for next season with an option for the club to extend a further year.
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If CW didn't have previous with us, what would you say? If we'd brought in a complete new entity, last November and they'd overseen the transition and guided us to the top of the division, would you still be saying the same?
 
Ron_Justice said:
If CW didn't have previous with us, what would you say? If we'd brought in a complete new entity, last November and they'd overseen the transition and guided us to the top of the division, would you still be saying the same?
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If it wasn’t ‘Wilder the Blade’ no one would be falling over themselves to offer him keys to the city and a job for life, so that argument works both ways.

He’s guided us to the top of the division below the one we were in when he took over, yes I know we’d already signed our own PL death warrant with the summer 2023 transfer dealings but it’s hardly a stretch to say that we’d have been near the top this season given the obvious advantage in resources we’d have relative to other teams.

I’m not criticising the job he’s done so far but it’s not like he’s taken a bunch of league 1 players and got them to the top of the Championship. Some perspective is required.
 
Bladezz said:
If they sack him of course he will be due compensation. What’s your point?
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I’d rather we don’t offer him a long contract that will only serve to make him richer upon leaving. We did this last time and his request on leaving according to the owner at the time was for a £4m payment (I don’t for 1 minute believe this is what he ended up with).
 
Wilder has performed a minor miracle to put us in contention. That should be recognised by the ownership. You wouldn’t sack Lewis Hamilton for not winning races with a car that only had 3 wheels ! Their due diligence would take into account the shit show of last season and the progress under Wilder . Summer break to assess for me .
 
Houston_Blade said:
If it wasn’t ‘Wilder the Blade’ no one would be falling over themselves to offer him keys to the city and a job for life, so that argument works both ways.

He’s guided us to the top of the division below the one we were in when he took over, yes I know we’d already signed our own PL death warrant with the summer 2023 transfer dealings but it’s hardly a stretch to say that we’d have been near the top this season given the obvious advantage in resources we’d have relative to other teams.

I’m not criticising the job he’s done so far but it’s not like he’s taken a bunch of league 1 players and got them to the top of the Championship. Some perspective is required.
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What he did do is take is take a load of league one players and took them to 9th position in the prem ,remember ?
 
Houston_Blade said:
If it wasn’t ‘Wilder the Blade’ no one would be falling over themselves to offer him keys to the city and a job for life, so that argument works both ways.

He’s guided us to the top of the division below the one we were in when he took over, yes I know we’d already signed our own PL death warrant with the summer 2023 transfer dealings but it’s hardly a stretch to say that we’d have been near the top this season given the obvious advantage in resources we’d have relative to other teams.

I’m not criticising the job he’s done so far but it’s not like he’s taken a bunch of league 1 players and got them to the top of the Championship. Some perspective is required.
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Keys to the City and Job for life, no, not having that.

On the other hand, l 100% believe that if we'd brought in, literally, any other manager that was new to us and wasn't from the usual manager merry-go-round, and they'd done what CW has this time, there would be no question about offering them a new deal.

Having said that, I'm still not as enamoured with CW this time as l was the first time, but being objective, CWAK have done an astonishing job to turn the ship around. If they were anyone else, people would be all over them.
 

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