Wilder interview

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Thanks - just listening now - doesn't rule out Sunderland at all, which he had every opportunity to do.
 
A few interesting points;

1. nobody from board level upwards has spoken to him after his comments last week,
2. didn't expect this situation when he re-signed last Summer,
3. bottom 6 budget (mentioned 3 times),
4. not made plans he would like to have made at this stage, waiting on outcome or at least a hint from the powers that be
5. not all about money, more direction, wants to plan for the Prem and all that goes with it, refurb'd training ground etc on top of other issues and wants those assurances as much as short-term planning and budgets.

Also needs a big performance from the players tomorrow I think to finish on some kind of high, he's very proud of what they've achieved this season but sounded quite dejected overall.
 
I’m genuinely surprised McCabe hasnt made contact, even just to try and calm it down a bit.

I’m not at all surprised Abdullah hasnt.

What the f*** are they playing at!?
I've mostly kept my sneck out of this and not even bothered to read most of the 20 page threads about it.
But they're really starting to piss me off now. FFS. Talk to each other!

Even CW is not totally blameless.
I can't believe he doesn't have contact details for either of his two bosses or their representatives.
Why can't he put his questions and concerns to them directly rather than through the press/media?
 
This is certainly speeding along at a rate of knots.

On the basis that Wilder hasn't heard from the owners, what other conclusion can any of us draw than to wonder what they're playing at? I think a carefully worded set of views, ambitions, and commitments would surely help sway Wilder in his decision making, and would ensure that this current situation becomes nothing more than a storm in a teacup. Any failure to act now, rather than procrastinate, is the only way forward. Unless, of course, Kev or the Prince think that Wilder is going nowhere, and that would be the most horrendous calculation they could possibly make on behalf of this club of ours.
 
When we won at Leeds last year I thought to myself that this is too good to be true and if any club could implode on itself it’s us.

True to form we go from top of the table form to relegation form. Infighting at board level, players fighting amongst themselves and a managers threatening to quit.

Have a big, massive FFS from me
 
This is certainly speeding along at a rate of knots.

On the basis that Wilder hasn't heard from the owners, what other conclusion can any of us draw than to wonder what they're playing at? I think a carefully worded set of views, ambitions, and commitments would surely help sway Wilder in his decision making, and would ensure that this current situation becomes nothing more than a storm in a teacup. Any failure to act now, rather than procrastinate, is the only way forward. Unless, of course, Kev or the Prince think that Wilder is going nowhere, and that would be the most horrendous calculation they could possibly make on behalf of this club of ours.

If Wilder stays, the ownership issues are resolved, and we start next season the way we've finished this how long will it be before fans get their hindsight out and he becomes just another McCabe cock up?
 
Even CW is not totally blameless.
I can't believe he doesn't have contact details for either of his two bosses or their representatives.
Why can't he put his questions and concerns to them directly rather than through the press/media?

My guess would be that he's been trying for a while and not had the reassurances, which is why he went to the media.
 
My guess would be that he's been trying for a while and not had the reassurances, which is why he went to the media.

I get that Wilder going to the media puts public pressure on the board to sort out their mess, but it's also caused unrest among the fan base and put himself in the shop window. Even worse that he refuses to shut down talk of him leaving. Can't help but feel p*ssed off with how Wilder is going about it, to be honest.
 
When we won at Leeds last year I thought to myself that this is too good to be true and if any club could implode on itself it’s us.

True to form we go from top of the table form to relegation form. Infighting at board level, players fighting amongst themselves and a managers threatening to quit.

Have a big, massive FFS from me
This :(
 



If Wilder stays, the ownership issues are resolved, and we start next season the way we've finished this how long will it be before fans get their hindsight out and he becomes just another McCabe cock up?

Keeping Wilder 'sweet' goes a long way to answering many of the questions that cause the supporters to be vexed. What it doesn't do is resolve boardroom anxiety, competition, and ownership squabbles amongst the directors. Rather than having owners who only have one thought, to sell the club as and when we're in the Premiership, surely we need someone who can invest vision, an understanding that money invested will get returns way beyond the monetary investment, and give Wilder the chance to build this club, from top to bottom, and enable us to embrace the idea that we're good enough to become an established Premiership club.
 
What the f*** are they playing at!?
I've mostly kept my sneck out of this and not even bothered to read most of the 20 page threads about it.
But they're really starting to piss me off now. FFS. Talk to each other!

Even CW is not totally blameless.
I can't believe he doesn't have contact details for either of his two bosses or their representatives.
Why can't he put his questions and concerns to them directly rather than through the press/media?
There are conceivable reasons/excuses for not upping the budget, the scouting system, planning for next season and upgrading the training ground

There are very good reasons for not speaking to the media/supporters during legal proceedings.

There is no excuse for not contacting your successful manager after he publicly shows his displeasure, even if you think he was in the wrong.
 
This is certainly speeding along at a rate of knots.

On the basis that Wilder hasn't heard from the owners, what other conclusion can any of us draw than to wonder what they're playing at? I think a carefully worded set of views, ambitions, and commitments would surely help sway Wilder in his decision making, and would ensure that this current situation becomes nothing more than a storm in a teacup. Any failure to act now, rather than procrastinate, is the only way forward. Unless, of course, Kev or the Prince think that Wilder is going nowhere, and that would be the most horrendous calculation they could possibly make on behalf of this club of ours.

Given our owners are in dispute, I don't think it's much of a leap to think they may have different views, ambitions and commitments.

Should they release independant statements even if contradictory? because my view is that a joint one while in dispute means fuck all.
 
I get that Wilder going to the media puts public pressure on the board to sort out their mess, but it's also caused unrest among the fan base and put himself in the shop window. Even worse that he refuses to shut down talk of him leaving. Can't help but feel p*ssed off with how Wilder is going about it, to be honest.

He wants to push on to the next level. He can't do that when he doesn't even know what his budget is. You can't plan for signings or start doing business early, something that he's been eager to do since he joined us. Most teams set next season's budget long before the season finishes.

He's experienced boardroom hiccups before, stuck with it and it came back to bite him. I don't blame him for looking after himself while his stock his probably the highest it's ever been. I personally think he has the backing of the fans which puts him in a stronger position to try and force the board's hand. Everyone knows he wants to move forward with his career and with us. That's why he needs it be sorted.
 
I'm adopting my Sheffield United Self Preservation Tactic of preparing myself for the worst and hoping for the best.

This'll end in Black Thursday Mk 2.

Having tried to adopt such an approach for many, many years I am sorry to have to tell you that it doesn't work.

Whatever you do or don't do, they'll always find a way of breaking your fucking heart.
 
I'm surprised that McCabe didn't say something to him at the awards function the other night.

They were in the same room and even if it was just a discussion to meet up on a particular date to discuss things further.

Very strange.
 
mmmmm, I'm a bit concerned that near the end when he talks about us and Bristol City going about things in a certain way with lowish budgets but great team spirit. There's a point where I think he was leading into pointing at clubs with big names, large salaries, budgets etc. below us - then stumbles badly over his words and stops.

Could it be that this was to avoid offending people he may need on his side if that's who he ends up managing at SAFC?
 
Given our owners are in dispute, I don't think it's much of a leap to think they may have different views, ambitions and commitments.

Should they release independant statements even if contradictory? because my view is that a joint one while in dispute means fuck all.

I wasn't thinking so much about public statements, at least for the moment, but a meeting where everything is noted and signed. By all means let's have individual needs and wants, but the key is that without some type of agreement between all three individuals, nothing will happen other than a slow disintegration of what's been built over the last two years.
 
It is in my view grossly disrespectful of the owners ( particularly KM) not to engage with CW over the last 7 days. His rationale for speaking out so clearly owes an awful lot to his passion for HIS club. I genuinely think KM has no idea what the backlash is going to be like if CW leaves. CW gave us all our club back and be it his fault or not KM despite all he has done for SUFC will have a legacy that in losing CW he gave our club back to the naysayers who over many years have laughed at our inability to behave coherently at boardroom level.
 



I wasn't thinking so much about public statements, at least for the moment, but a meeting where everything is noted and signed. By all means let's have individual needs and wants, but the key is that without some type of agreement between all three individuals, nothing will happen other than a slow disintegration of what's been built over the last two years.

I still don't see how it would work, whether the statement is public or not. Our owners are in dispute with, I'm assuming, different views, ambition and commitments?

For example, Wilder has mentioned in his latest interview the need for some work to be carried out at the training ground, now McCabe may be up for this he sees some value in our infrastructure maybe HRH doesn't. Maybe HRH says I'll commit to increasing the wage budget and providing £20million for transfers, McCabe can't / won't. How would an agreement viable and also acceptable to Wilder?

Unfortunately until the dispute is resolved I just don't see how there can be any statements or agreements.
 

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