Wilder - Get Rid Now, or After Last Game

[Silky Sabella]

Taking it down to the simplest way of expressing the deficiency in structure ,

Who reviews Wilder's performance either now or in the future ?

Not the owners - they've married him.
And anyway , they've already proved they're clueless.

Not the only UK based Director - Bettis - they're old pals FFS.

He has free reign to do whatever he likes and give coaching & fitness & scouting jobs to whoever he likes.

There is no constructive criticism , let alone effective control.

He can't abide either.

It's pretty obvious from his interviews in which nothing is ever his fault.

Whilst accepting that he loves the club , that's not the job unfortunately.

An absolutely brilliant 110% spot on post Keen. True to the core in evey aspect that cannot be disputed in anyway whatsoever.
If the owners read this and role reversed your points, we would be building a very successful football club.
Brilliant mate

 

[sitwell]

"I take full responsibility and accountability "...Liam rosenior after losing Saturday at Everton..not something we,re ever likely to hear from Wilder..

Now lets see how long Rosenior has a job.

 

[Sportbilly /Detroit Blade]

Now lets see how long Rosenior has a job.

Not long the rate Chelsea are going.

 

[Silent Blade]

Should have gone for carrick or Edward's last June, I’d even try for Lampard when cov sack him half way through next season.

Hello Captain Hindsight!

 

[ancientblade]

Hello Captain Hindsight!

i wanted carrick silent and posted that on this forum after a good start where he stabilised us were now seing the wilder that failed at boro and watford hes not going to take us any further real long shot and know i will be ridiculed on here but rosenior isnt going to last much longer at chelsea i would love us to bring him in chelsea was just too big a job for him

 

[Stanthemanfan]

My wish would be Newcastle sack Eddie Howe and we bring him in along with Tindall.Give them two full seasons at least to change the club.
I would ask everyone where do you want our club to play?
Yoyo club
Top six challenging in the championship
Mid table premiership
We have to be realistic in what we want

We have to be realistic....
Then mentions Eddie howe ffs

 

[Tony Currie]

One thing you get from Wilder is honesty. In the post match interview Wilder raised a couple of points he needed to address including fitness of team, youth of team and defence frailties. I am sure he sees what we see and these will be top of the list ready for next season.

 

[de g.]

We're entering a rebuild phase. In that respect, the question for the board is not whether Wilder is the manager for the next 12 months, but whether he is the man for the next three years. Is he able to effectively oversee a transformation of the club, bring the next generation of youth through, work with Bettis/the board to put in place and use new approaches to scouting, training, etc?

My gut says he probably isn't, but more than that I want the board to make a decision and stick to it. Like some others I'd probably have chosen Carrick after Selles, I don't really know enough about the other alternatives to say who is the right person for us.

 

[MayorOJC]

He'll be given the summer to shape the team in his image (with the pennies we find behind the sofa) regardless of what happens from now until the end. His job was "save our arses" and he's achieved that.

Long term though, I do think it's important for us to find a way forward without him. Can't think of any other club in modern times that's been so dependant on a single manager.

 

[Stanthemanfan]

"I take full responsibility and accountability "...Liam rosenior after losing Saturday at Everton..not something we,re ever likely to hear from Wilder..

According to him after the Wrexham game "I don't wanna go out of the back door and I never have"
If brooks dosent get sold il be shocked because I just think wilder Dosent fancy him, he must have said brooks about 10 times in the interview, not Andre, not brooksy but brooks, but certain players, gus, Patrick, Tommy, sydie etc get called by their first names, I wonder why??

 

[Bladedog]

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According to him after the Wrexham game "I don't wanna go out of the back door and I never have"
If brooks dosent get sold il be shocked because I just think wilder Dosent fancy him, he must have said brooks about 10 times in the interview, not Andre, not brooksy but brooks, but certain players, gus, Patrick, Tommy, sydie etc get called by their first names, I wonder why??

They probably like a drink.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I’m not a fan by any means, but I’m not calling for him to go now or at the end of the season.

Really, next season is set up perfectly for him and has a number of parallels with 2016. A squad in need of a major overhaul and not having loads of money to spend on it beyond what he can generate from player sales. That’s what he’s supposed to be good at and this will be when we get to see whether any of the Wilder Mk1 magic is still there in a broadly comparable set of circumstances to when he first came in, the first time in the last 10 years we have been in such a situation.

It will go one of two ways. Either we will be looking like contenders or he will be gone before Christmas with only a few months left on his contract. And I can’t see any sort of rush from the owners to extend his contract at this point, the clock is ticking and the jury is very much out.

It will be fascinating to see how it all develops. At least being a Blade is never dull.

The main worry with that is the continuing issue of many players seemingly unable to complete 90 minutes. Plus we don’t need signings like Ings.

 

[The Fox]

We have to be realistic....
Then mentions Eddie howe ffs

If we're playing fantasy manager yep Eddie Howe is beyond us I admit, but I suppose there are managers out there who would excited a few.

Let's say the Board announced Thomas Frank was taking over as manager for example , it might get the expectancy level up a bit ..

 

[Pintor75]

i wanted carrick silent and posted that on this forum after a good start where he stabilised us were now seing the wilder that failed at boro and watford hes not going to take us any further real long shot and know i will be ridiculed on here but rosenior isnt going to last much longer at chelsea i would love us to bring him in chelsea was just too big a job for him

No pre season either, that's what you've got to say

 

[LBA_Blade]

If we're playing fantasy manager yep Eddie Howe is beyond us I admit, but I suppose there are managers out there who would excited a few.

Let's say the Board announced Thomas Frank was taking over as manager for example , it might get the expectancy level up a bit ..

Might sound a bit random but what about Guilherme Ramos or Micky Collins promoting them from the coaching set-up

 

[VonBrysonsExpress]

What worries me is the confidence that wilder can pull rabbits out of hats next season and sign low cost, energetic, talented players who have 'gone under the radar' of other clubs and forge a decent team. His recent record doesn't suggest that at all.

 

[The Fox]

Might sound a bit random but what about Guilherme Ramos or Micky Collins promoting them from the coaching set-up

I take your point but we're very wary of foreign managers , rather have an English manager like Thomas Frank .

 

[LBA_Blade]

I take your point but we're very wary of foreign managers , rather have an English manager like Thomas Frank .

Comment of the season

I found it random that Wilder "found Guilherme Ramos", I know he had been at Forest previously but he like you quite rightly point out isn't a Wilder mould. Playing and coaching wise he has had such a random journey but you wonder what he brings to the set-up. But saying that Micky Collins has had a random start to management too.

 

[CPB]

I just think we need to look at the context of everything.

When we talk about Wilder you obviously think about all his tenure's here not just this season. But for me you have to just measure this season.
IF we had brought in say a Steve Cooper in mid September and he had delivered the same results, and we are now looking at missing out on the playoffs.
Would we see this as a season we missed an opportunity but ultimately we aren't going down and early doors this season we looked the worst side in the division? I don't think some would be calling for their head in this scenario.
The fact is Wilder is meaning he isn't being measured by the same metric for better or worse. And I think some were waiting for us to stutter to come back out of the woodwork.

This season it has to be thought about in the grand scheme of things.
Last summer looking back was arguably a worse summer of prep for a season than the summer of 2023.
The management were poor and set poor standards. And the players signed simply not enough are up to improving or building a capable enough squad.
Yes the squad still shouldn't be in a relegation scrap but it was and it was until about the end of November.

Since Christmas we have seen our team become Mr inconsistent though.

Yes there are many players in this team that were signed under Wilder or played under him last season. But there were 12 signings made last summer (2025) by Selles.
Of these signings only Tanganga and Bindon are holding starting places. With Chong, Soumare and Ings sometimes appearing from the bench most weeks.

The quality of the overall squad or in particular depth isn't super strong. First 11 is good though.
Yes you can point to the January window but it's not usually a window you sign more than about 5 players unless you have plenty of cash. Can't say that those signed are pulling up many tree's. Although Bamford and Reiedewald are good signings.

This summer is going to see some changes and turnover in squad. There will be some sales of key players and we are going to have to use all markets well.
Sure we could get rid of Wilder again and try something new. I'd counter that with who could we be confident enough to take on that challenge?
I personally would rather see us have a bit of stability over the summer and give Wilder a crack start of next season.

 

[Kenworthy’s Tash]

I’m not a fan by any means, but I’m not calling for him to go now or at the end of the season.

Really, next season is set up perfectly for him and has a number of parallels with 2016. A squad in need of a major overhaul and not having loads of money to spend on it beyond what he can generate from player sales. That’s what he’s supposed to be good at and this will be when we get to see whether any of the Wilder Mk1 magic is still there in a broadly comparable set of circumstances to when he first came in, the first time in the last 10 years we have been in such a situation.

It will go one of two ways. Either we will be looking like contenders or he will be gone before Christmas with only a few months left on his contract. And I can’t see any sort of rush from the owners to extend his contract at this point, the clock is ticking and the jury is very much out.

It will be fascinating to see how it all develops. At least being a Blade is never dull.

 

[Kenworthy’s Tash]

One thing you get from Wilder is honesty. In the post match interview Wilder raised a couple of points he needed to address including fitness of team, youth of team and defence frailties. I am sure he sees what we see and these will be top of the list ready for next season.

You being serious? He’s straight out of the Trump playbook, never takes any responsibility, always someone else’s fault. A man that will say anything to save his job.

 

[I should coco]

If we were ambitious and wanted to try and roll the dice with a big money manager spend Enzo Maresca, is about, although the chance of him being at Bramall Lane is highly unlikely

Unlikely? I'd say so, given he is one of the favourites to replace Pep. Be careful with the deludamol, it's strong stuff.

My wish would be Newcastle sack Eddie Howe and we bring him in along with Tindall.Give them two full seasons at least to change the club.

I wouldn't want that cheating bastard anywhere near the Lane. Did you go to the Bournemouth game in 2020, when they did their choreagraphed falling down and moaning to the ref?

Haven't you noticed, how Anthony Gordon has gone from being a very pacey young winger, to a bloke who now falls down whenever he gets in the box.

He doesn't get called out for it, because he's English, but in my book he is a cheat and teaches his teams to do likewise.

 

[Hallamboy87]

Get rid and start a fresh in the summer. We're not going to have a lot of money unless we sell.

Bring Neil Warnock back!!!

 

[skegblade]

He will get till xmas,if we are in with a good shout he will stay,personally hope we part ways,although his attitude has changed after his fracas at the end of last season and the sausage rohl incident.
Personally think after his re signing he was told about his professionalism

 

[john Mathison]

CW has been in charge for 33 games, and we have lost 13.
Only pigs have lost more games than us.
I get CW had to go with the players he had, the additions of Jairo and Bamford improved us, but others did not.
The season has gone now, in fact, we need points to confirm our championship status for next year.

 

[Blade56]

"I don't wanna go out of the back door and I never have"

Not like he’s not said that before as he scuttled out the back door with a carrier bag stuffed with green stuff

 

[Silky Sabella]

If we're playing fantasy manager yep Eddie Howe is beyond us I admit, but I suppose there are managers out there who would excited a few.

Let's say the Board announced Thomas Frank was taking over as manager for example , it might get the expectancy level up a bit ..

If Thomas Frank was announced, it would be the ultimate coup of all time.
Plays football the right way, lovely guy, and enjoys a glass of red .
Unfortunately, I think it is a dream only

 

[KMC-1889]

Notts forest - 4 managers this season (so far)

Tottenham Hotspurs - 3 managers this season (so far)

Both clubs have a DOF.

How has flipping managers/DOF's benefitted either club?

Brentford have a technical board and have dealt with losing their talisman manager and best players just fine.

Brighton change their manager every couple of years and still manage to bring through a conveyor belt of talent and perform way above their level.

Sunderland & Leeds have a technical board and have cracked the code to building a strong championship club that can beat the drop in the premier league.

There are many more examples of it working than of it not working. Provide one example where the manager being the ‘club’ manager and running the whole thing via and old boys network has brought stable success?

 

[luffenhamblade]

Brentford have a technical board and have dealt with losing their talisman manager and best players just fine.

Brighton change their manager every couple of years and still manage to bring through a conveyor belt of talent and perform way above their level.

Sunderland & Leeds have a technical board and have cracked the code to building a strong championship club that can beat the drop in the premier league.

There are many more examples of it working than of it not working. Provide one example where the manager being the ‘club’ manager and running the whole thing via and old boys network has brought stable success?

Not arguing with your basic point, it's your opinion, which is fine. However, can you really call 1 year in prem and avoiding the drop to be "stable success"? We avoided the drop first season back in PL.

 

[crucialkneeligaman]

One thing you get from Wilder is honesty. In the post match interview Wilder raised a couple of points he needed to address including fitness of team, youth of team and defence frailties. I am sure he sees what we see and these will be top of the list ready for next season.

has he only just realised that ?.