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Most threads, and even posts, that you read about Chris Wilder contain the words 'I trust him'?

Is it because we've had such liars and bullshitters before, or is it because he's a trustworthy bloke? Has he been here long enough to judge him or is it something else?

I used to like him as a player, you could see that he was thinking when he played and he always gave his all. As a manager I feel the same way about him. I like his approach, I like how he goes about his business, I like the way he's brought unfancied players in, and I like the feeling that it's more than a job to him. Sort of, this time it's personal.

For me? Like I say, I saw a genuine player and that won me over, the way he's gone about management is just the same. I like honesty and in your face bluntness. I like our gaffer.
 

Met him a few years ago when he was manager at Oxford and we played them in the cup.My mates son was a mascot and I tagged on when they did a tour of the ground and meet the manager. He was great with the kids and we had a good chat and banter about him allowing the Blades to win as he was a fan ( we did win 3.0)
I think though its because the previous managers have never said it as it is especially madkins who seemd to get un realistic delusional positives from pieces of turds. Like Hammond did so much unseen work ( 20,000 other people never saw this work but he did !!) He seems to understand (as he should as a Blades fan) what bshit we have have been fed over the last few years and his natural style is to tell it as it is (as far as he can) as he knows that we can see through the crap !
 
You can trust CW as much as you like. It's all down to the board and the JTW. If they pull the rug from under his feet and cash in, then we are back to square one. Or should I say league one.
 
Two reasons.

He's shown he's very competent. Under very difficult circumstances.

I don't have much choice. I have no input into who is our manager or how the manager operates. So every manager starts with the benefit of the doubt, that they can do a good job, until they prove otherwise or get the sack (the two not being mutually exclusive).

I've not had a FFS feeling since Robson/Blackwell and maybe DW1 (waste of time sacking Adams to bring in someone with a poorer record and it was always going to be the case that as soon as things got tough, we'd turn against him).

I was a touch nervous when Wilder was appointed as I thought the job might be too much but I was impressed by his decisiveness and recruitment policy. The bad start did make me nervous again but the way he dealt with that has just reinforced my opinion that he knows what he's doing.
 
I trust Wilder for how he comes across, never met him but I know a few who have, and they speak highly of him, mind you I suppose if you asked the same question about Clogh and adkins I woukd say yes, on the face of it I trust them, but that doesn't mean they any good at the job, well for us anyway.
 
You can trust CW as much as you like. It's all down to the board and the JTW. If they pull the rug from under his feet and cash in, then we are back to square one. Or should I say league one.
Wouldn't that be like cashing in a bet at half time when you're four nil up? Surely KM has learnt from his mistakes by now? And if he hasn't, he's got Prince to point them out to him. Since Prince's involvement we haven't sold anyone decent in the JTW.

I can believe we won't sign many in the JTW but I'd be shocked if we actually sold someone important. Surely KM doesn't want to have to knock another 10% off ST prices for next season?
 
A number of things he's said and done add up to convince me that he's got every aspect of the job covered and under control.

There's also the fact that he's a fan himself, so there are no gaps in his knowledge about the club, what's happened previously and what's required now and in the future.

Basically he's one of us who happens to be a good manager. You know he'll put in the hours and work very hard. Then he's backed up by Alan Knill, another solid football man who seems to work very well with him.

When you compare him to previous managers we really are very lucky. I just hope the board give him the best chance of succeeding because it'd be a criminal waste not to capitalise now we've finally got the right manager.
 
A number of things he's said and done add up to convince me that he's got every aspect of the job covered and under control.

There's also the fact that he's a fan himself, so there are no gaps in his knowledge about the club, what's happened previously and what's required now and in the future.

Basically he's one of us who happens to be a good manager. You know he'll put in the hours and work very hard. Then he's backed up by Alan Knill, another solid football man who seems to work very well with him.

When you compare him to previous managers we really are very lucky. I just hope the board give him the best chance of succeeding because it'd be a criminal waste not to capitalise now we've finally got the right manager.
I forgot to mention his hard work. You just know that even though he'd have known all about our failings before he even started work, he'll have still watched more DVDs of our previous season's games than Adkins ever did.
 
A number of things he's said and done add up to convince me that he's got every aspect of the job covered and under control.

I can never hear or read the words 'under control' again without flashing back to the film 'Kick Ass'.

'What do you mean it's under control? You're grabbing a bazooka you dumbass!'*

* Insert 'You're buying Ade Akinbiyi' or 'buying Dean Hammond' as an alternative.
 
I trust him exactly as much as he's earned. Didn't want him before he came, didn't think much to the way he and Knill spoke about the game, and didn't expect us to be any better off. So far he's proven me wrong, and so I don't have much choice but to acknowledge what a good job he's doing.

This side was an average to poor League One side through and through when he took over. Without Billy's goals we'd have been even further down the table. We had players like McEveley who were an embarrassment to watch. We had a huge squad none of whom were better than what was on display.

Trust in managers only lasts as long as the results are on the pitch. Most, if not all, of us were getting excited about Clough when he won ten on the trot in all competitions, but then he had a disastrous closed season and put out crap performance after crap performance thereafter. If things go wrong under Wilder then be under no illusions that the mood won't change. All we can judge him on is what he's done so far, and that's work miracles as far as I'm concerned.
 
Even early in the season when things weren't going well it was clear that he had a plan. His post match interviews indicated not only his awareness of the issues at hand but also his overwhelming desire to get it sorted. I drove back to Liverpool after the Southend debacle and his interview afterwards on the radio was superb. There were none of the usual excuses we have grown accustomed to and instead a honest and frank assessment of the situation. Don't care what others think, the fact that he is a blade makes my even more desperate for him to do well. It also gives me immense pride that he is turning the club around playing a high tempo, in your face style of attacking football. Long may it continue. Well done Mr WIlder.
 
Most threads, and even posts, that you read about Chris Wilder contain the words 'I trust him'?

Is it because we've had such liars and bullshitters before, or is it because he's a trustworthy bloke? Has he been here long enough to judge him or is it something else?

I used to like him as a player, you could see that he was thinking when he played and he always gave his all. As a manager I feel the same way about him. I like his approach, I like how he goes about his business, I like the way he's brought unfancied players in, and I like the feeling that it's more than a job to him. Sort of, this time it's personal.

For me? Like I say, I saw a genuine player and that won me over, the way he's gone about management is just the same. I like honesty and in your face bluntness. I like our gaffer.
Just think it's one in a collection of phrases people use to positively affirm him. He's a good bloke, one of our own, knows the club being others.

I like him and what he has done. His dealings and the way he has let previously cast off players back into the fold show he isn't too full of himself. He has gone about his business well and done the things that needed doing.

All things you could have said about Clough at the end of his first season as well. I don't know why Adkins didn't work because it should have. Can be a case of wrong person, wrong time, wrong place.

Hopefully we have stopped selling our best players and if we have then Wilder has a chance of success. If we pull the rug from under his feet he will end up on the same scrap heap as the rest.
 
I trust him exactly as much as he's earned. Didn't want him before he came, didn't think much to the way he and Knill spoke about the game, and didn't expect us to be any better off. So far he's proven me wrong, and so I don't have much choice but to acknowledge what a good job he's doing.

This side was an average to poor League One side through and through when he took over. Without Billy's goals we'd have been even further down the table. We had players like McEveley who were an embarrassment to watch. We had a huge squad none of whom were better than what was on display.

Trust in managers only lasts as long as the results are on the pitch. Most, if not all, of us were getting excited about Clough when he won ten on the trot in all competitions, but then he had a disastrous closed season and put out crap performance after crap performance thereafter. If things go wrong under Wilder then be under no illusions that the mood won't change. All we can judge him on is what he's done so far, and that's work miracles as far as I'm concerned.

Very close to my own view. I was ambivalent as to his appointment, as I thought that he would be screwed however well he did by financial constraints and that mid table was the best we could do. After four games I was worried he was out of his depth and we could be in for relegation.

Fast forward 17 league games and our record since Southend is W12 D4 L1. I can't believe the level of performance he has got from some players who were at best ineffective and at worst abysmal last season. Most of his signings have worked out so far, the team is playing exciting football, and we score lots of goals.

Good managers can go bad as Pokerblade says, but for the time being, he's earned our respect and trust in my eyes.
 
Have to agree with PokerBlade and Revolution in that I was ambivalent to his appointment, I think mostly because I'd thought Adkins was a great appointment at the time!

After the Southend game I was concerned not just with the horrific result, but also the style of play. It's impressive the way he's turned it round and our style of play couldn't be more different to those first two home games, although it does make me wonder what they were doing in the pre-season friendlies.

It's difficult now to remain sceptical of our prospects this season given the intensity and mental attitude that he's instilled into the team, however I'm waiting to see what January brings before I will allow myself to get really excited.
 

I thought we'd gone for the cheap option when we signed him - and I still think that. I'm sure that was McCabe's biggest reason for appointing him - the fact that he wouldn't cost us a lot in wages. The fact he's an ex Blade and had just had success with Northampton obviously made his case stronger as well. I didn't know whether he'd be able to cut it with United, given our awful track record at this level. However...

When I looked more into what he had done I started to change my mind. When I heard that interview he gave whilst at Northampton, where he pours his heart out with passion at the plight of the club, I was impressed. When I saw that he'd galvanised a failing club where the players were not getting paid and got them to the top of the league and 100 points in the bag, I was impressed again. And then you look back and see what he'd done at Oxford and what the fans think about him as a manager in general, and the feedback (barring a few bitter Oxford fans) was glowing. I felt this might just be a case of, right man, right time?.

I don't give McCabe any credit whatsoever for appointing him - because McCabe has made so many blunders with recruitment that I am convinced he hasn't got a clue what he's doing and this was just serendipity that he chose Wilder. At least McCabe had the good sense to get a straight-talking guy this time, which is a welcome contrast to the previous moron. (I did post on here about 3 months into last season that I felt Adkins was possibly the worst manager for a long long time - which got me loads of stick as well).

What I didn't do was doubt him at any point from the start of this season. I went to Bolton first match. I thought we played great! A welcome change from that crap served up under Adkins. We lost of course -but I thought the performance was good and deserving of something. I saw the next few games in which we failed to win and in most of them I was kind of left scratching my head thinking..."we didn't play bad, but we didn't play well enough to make sure of a win". I felt most of those games could easily have gone our way and that it was fine margins in some of them especially. But I felt the midfield wasn't quite working. The passing wasn't great at times and we were giving the ball away too easily. Fleck was in and out of the team. Coutts wasn't in it at all. I made the case on here to get Coutts in the midfield because the guy could at least pass - and many of you told me you thought I was brainless, or words to that effect.

Anyhow, here we are. A very good manager and one, that I hope, will stay with us for a long, long time. Of course, his fate lies in the hands of that blundering old duffer McCabe. Wilder has an opportunity to take this club to the top of League 1 at Christmas. But we know for sure that if we slip down to 6th soon after, McCabe will fire him, just like he did with Wilson.
 
This is the first manager we've had since Warnock, who I believe would have the balls to go toe-to-toe with the Board if they tried to sell somebody he didn't want to lose. :eek:

He's also got the balls to fight his corner to demand some real financial backing in the JTW and in the summer ( still may not get it but I believe that he will fight ) ;)

That contrasts with the most recent clutch of bottle-less, toadying, bullshitting and gut-less set of goose liking twats that we've had to put up with in the last few years .......

Keep up the good work Tufty and push us forwards :)

UTB & FTP
 
A number of things he's said and done add up to convince me that he's got every aspect of the job covered and under control.

There's also the fact that he's a fan himself, so there are no gaps in his knowledge about the club, what's happened previously and what's required now and in the future.

Basically he's one of us who happens to be a good manager. You know he'll put in the hours and work very hard. Then he's backed up by Alan Knill, another solid football man who seems to work very well with him.

When you compare him to previous managers we really are very lucky. I just hope the board give him the best chance of succeeding because it'd be a criminal waste not to capitalise now we've finally got the right manager.
I'm sure Mr Mccabe will be on the same page. we have a real opportunity to kick on here and he like us is desperate to get out of this league., With a manager who's. nous has surprised us all I'm sure he will back him.
 
After losing to Bolton Millwall Crewe and heavily against Southend , he turned it around and this gave us fans relief ,and belief , i trust him . Oh and a thumbs up for Alan Kneill too while we are spreading the love around .
 
I thought we'd gone for the cheap option when we signed him - and I still think that. I'm sure that was McCabe's biggest reason for appointing him - the fact that he wouldn't cost us a lot in wages. The fact he's an ex Blade and had just had success with Northampton obviously made his case stronger as well. I didn't know whether he'd be able to cut it with United, given our awful track record at this level. However...

When I looked more into what he had done I started to change my mind. When I heard that interview he gave whilst at Northampton, where he pours his heart out with passion at the plight of the club, I was impressed. When I saw that he'd galvanised a failing club where the players were not getting paid and got them to the top of the league and 100 points in the bag, I was impressed again. And then you look back and see what he'd done at Oxford and what the fans think about him as a manager in general, and the feedback (barring a few bitter Oxford fans) was glowing. I felt this might just be a case of, right man, right time?.

I don't give McCabe any credit whatsoever for appointing him - because McCabe has made so many blunders with recruitment that I am convinced he hasn't got a clue what he's doing and this was just serendipity that he chose Wilder. At least McCabe had the good sense to get a straight-talking guy this time, which is a welcome contrast to the previous moron. (I did post on here about 3 months into last season that I felt Adkins was possibly the worst manager for a long long time - which got me loads of stick as well).

What I didn't do was doubt him at any point from the start of this season. I went to Bolton first match. I thought we played great! A welcome change from that crap served up under Adkins. We lost of course -but I thought the performance was good and deserving of something. I saw the next few games in which we failed to win and in most of them I was kind of left scratching my head thinking..."we didn't play bad, but we didn't play well enough to make sure of a win". I felt most of those games could easily have gone our way and that it was fine margins in some of them especially. But I felt the midfield wasn't quite working. The passing wasn't great at times and we were giving the ball away too easily. Fleck was in and out of the team. Coutts wasn't in it at all. I made the case on here to get Coutts in the midfield because the guy could at least pass - and many of you told me you thought I was brainless, or words to that effect.

Anyhow, here we are. A very good manager and one, that I hope, will stay with us for a long, long time. Of course, his fate lies in the hands of that blundering old duffer McCabe. Wilder has an opportunity to take this club to the top of League 1 at Christmas. But we know for sure that if we slip down to 6th soon after, McCabe will fire him, just like he did with Wilson.
Can't see Mccabe sacking him even if we miss out this season ( we will do it in my opinion anyway) Wilders team building and style of football will bring crowd's back to the lane.
He and Knill obviously have a vision to what. they want,we all have a vision but putting it into practice is another thing.
Mccabe knows he's onto a winner who won't hold the club to ransome.
Passion gives you an edge and Chris
oozes it,which has spread to the players,great stuff.
 
This is the first manager we've had since Warnock, who I believe would have the balls to go toe-to-toe with the Board if they tried to sell somebody he didn't want to lose. :eek:

He's also got the balls to fight his corner to demand some real financial backing in the JTW and in the summer ( still may not get it but I believe that he will fight ) ;)

That contrasts with the most recent clutch of bottle-less, toadying, bullshitting and gut-less set of goose liking twats that we've had to put up with in the last few years .......

Keep up the good work Tufty and push us forwards :)

UTB & FTP


Fully agree but apparently you should know that if we slip to 6th NcCabe will sack him so it's moot anyway.

What with that and Duffy going in January some of the gloss has been taken off.

Which is probably what some were aiming for.
 
Most threads, and even posts, that you read about Chris Wilder contain the words 'I trust him'?

Is it because we've had such liars and bullshitters before, or is it because he's a trustworthy bloke? Has he been here long enough to judge him or is it something else?

I used to like him as a player, you could see that he was thinking when he played and he always gave his all. As a manager I feel the same way about him. I like his approach, I like how he goes about his business, I like the way he's brought unfancied players in, and I like the feeling that it's more than a job to him. Sort of, this time it's personal.

For me? Like I say, I saw a genuine player and that won me over, the way he's gone about management is just the same. I like honesty and in your face bluntness. I like our gaffer.

Honest answer. He is a determined and very driven man. He has managed a long, long time going right back to managing a sunday league side in his spare time during his playing days. Because he isn't a big name, he has had to fight and scrap every step of the way for everything that has come his way, unlike many other managers he hasn't be given anything on a plate. The being a blade stuff is not really relevant, as he would be managing this way where ever he manages, and would be doing the same thing even if he didn't come to the Lane during the summer. The only relevant thing about him being a Blade is that he will have followed the Blades for a long time and will have had a head start in knowing what the task at hand at Bramall Lane was.

He has gone straight in to the club and made himself the leader and the figurehead of the club. Wilder inherited an expensive, overpaid and underachieving squad of journeymen made up of a different warring factions in the dressing room. The clique of the players than Adkins had brought in, the Clough clique, and the disruptive influence of the disruptive children such as Adams, McGahey and McNulty. It created a toxic atmopshere. He was absolutely fucking brutal in the way he bombed a dozen of those players out of the club. I loved seeing that released list, i was at the cricket that day with raul and he will tell you how my face lit up when i saw 10 had been ruthlessly booted out of the club, while another 10 had been transfer listed with the brilliant terse note about Dean Hammond. Showed a real sign that he meant business with the squad, and the players who found themselves transfer listed also got given a olive branch that told them if they bought in to what he was doing then they would be given a chance, hence the drastic improvement in Coutts and Freeman.

Footballing wise, we are playing some great stuff. None of this building slow, passing football in to the Blades DNA, no talk about crap about the Blades way. We don't play with a deep defensive line to protect slow and ageing centre halves any more whilst giving the opposition midfields all the time and space in the world to bully our midfield. We play with our defensive line a lot higher up the field, we don't give anyone any time on the ball, and they are usually pressed and bullied in to losing the ball, and we have teams pinned back in their own halves, it is relentless. We get the ball it is played forwards quickly, and we have quality footballers like Fleck, Duffy and Coutts who pull all the strings in midfield, and we are creating several chances. When the game is set at 0-0, you always get a real sense that the goal is coming and when the goal comes there will be another 2 or 3 coming. It is brilliant to watch and watching the other team trudge off absolutely demoralised after being absolutely humped by the Blades.

To sum it all up, Wilder is a genuine manager, and you can a mile off he is the man in charge. He doesn't take any shit off anyone, and gives it his all and expects everyone else to do the same. If anything Wilder is like the second coming of Dave Bassett
 
This is the first manager we've had since Warnock, who I believe would have the balls to go toe-to-toe with the Board if they tried to sell somebody he didn't want to lose. :eek:

He's also got the balls to fight his corner to demand some real financial backing in the JTW and in the summer ( still may not get it but I believe that he will fight ) ;)

That contrasts with the most recent clutch of bottle-less, toadying, bullshitting and gut-less set of goose liking twats that we've had to put up with in the last few years .......

Keep up the good work Tufty and push us forwards :)

UTB & FTP
Agree with that, other than I reckon Clough probably had the balls to have a go at the board. Difference is that he'd burn all his bridges and destroy the relationship for good.

In CWs case, I would back him to have the bollocks to have a blazing row with the owners, but then be able to smooth things over and continue with a respectful and decent relationship thereafter. He can manage people, seems to be one of his key strengths.
 
Honest answer. He is a determined and very driven man. He has managed a long, long time going right back to managing a sunday league side in his spare time during his playing days. Because he isn't a big name, he has had to fight and scrap every step of the way for everything that has come his way, unlike many other managers he hasn't be given anything on a plate. The being a blade stuff is not really relevant, as he would be managing this way where ever he manages, and would be doing the same thing even if he didn't come to the Lane during the summer. The only relevant thing about him being a Blade is that he will have followed the Blades for a long time and will have had a head start in knowing what the task at hand at Bramall Lane was.

He has gone straight in to the club and made himself the leader and the figurehead of the club. Wilder inherited an expensive, overpaid and underachieving squad of journeymen made up of a different warring factions in the dressing room. The clique of the players than Adkins had brought in, the Clough clique, and the disruptive influence of the disruptive children such as Adams, McGahey and McNulty. It created a toxic atmopshere. He was absolutely fucking brutal in the way he bombed a dozen of those players out of the club. I loved seeing that released list, i was at the cricket that day with raul and he will tell you how my face lit up when i saw 10 had been ruthlessly booted out of the club, while another 10 had been transfer listed with the brilliant terse note about Dean Hammond. Showed a real sign that he meant business with the squad, and the players who found themselves transfer listed also got given a olive branch that told them if they bought in to what he was doing then they would be given a chance, hence the drastic improvement in Coutts and Freeman.

Footballing wise, we are playing some great stuff. None of this building slow, passing football in to the Blades DNA, no talk about crap about the Blades way. We don't play with a deep defensive line to protect slow and ageing centre halves any more whilst giving the opposition midfields all the time and space in the world to bully our midfield. We play with our defensive line a lot higher up the field, we don't give anyone any time on the ball, and they are usually pressed and bullied in to losing the ball, and we have teams pinned back in their own halves, it is relentless. We get the ball it is played forwards quickly, and we have quality footballers like Fleck, Duffy and Coutts who pull all the strings in midfield, and we are creating several chances. When the game is set at 0-0, you always get a real sense that the goal is coming and when the goal comes there will be another 2 or 3 coming. It is brilliant to watch and watching the other team trudge off absolutely demoralised after being absolutely humped by the Blades.

To sum it all up, Wilder is a genuine manager, and you can a mile off he is the man in charge. He doesn't take any shit off anyone, and gives it his all and expects everyone else to do the same. If anything Wilder is like the second coming of Dave Bassett
Brownie that post gave goose bumps,spoken with all the passion of a true blade,great post.
 
Can't see Mccabe sacking him even if we miss out this season ( we will do it in my opinion anyway) Wilders team building and style of football will bring crowd's back to the lane.
He and Knill obviously have a vision to what. they want,we all have a vision but putting it into practice is another thing.
Mccabe knows he's onto a winner who won't hold the club to ransome.
Passion gives you an edge and Chris
oozes it,which has spread to the players,great stuff.

I hope you're right finlay - and I think you are. I was having a dig at the stupidity of McCabe's decision to sack Wilson in the same situation. I can't see anything other than us finishing top 2 tbh. And I'll tell you something else...with Wilder in charge I wouldn't rule out a double promotion back to the Prem! Now wouldn't that be nice?
 
I was having a dig at the stupidity of McCabe's decision to sack Wilson in the same situation.

We were top as late as February. We went on a shit run and it started to look very unlikely that we'd make automatic.

Wilson's record in the play offs was poor and McCabe had no confidence given Wemberlee 2012, hence he got the elbow. Uddersfield did the same with Lee Clark the season before, as their Chairman couldn't see him winning through the playoffs. They called it right, we called it wrong, surprise surprise.

I didn't agree with it at the time but didn't think we'd go up under Wilson given our 'special skill' in play offs.
 
I hope you're right finlay - and I think you are. I was having a dig at the stupidity of McCabe's decision to sack Wilson in the same situation. I can't see anything other than us finishing top 2 tbh. And I'll tell you something else...with Wilder in charge I wouldn't rule out a double promotion back to the Prem! Now wouldn't that be nice?
KM tends to respond to the crowds. He sacked Wilson because a lot of people were calling for him to be sacked, same with Adkins.
If KM thinks the majority of the crowd are behind CW and we'll still have good attendances next season, he won't sack him.
If there is a repeat of last season's 'failure parade' he'll be out on his arse.
 
We were top as late as February. We went on a shit run and it started to look very unlikely that we'd make automatic.

Wilson's record in the play offs was poor and McCabe had no confidence given Wemberlee 2012, hence he got the elbow. Uddersfield did the same with Lee Clark the season before, as their Chairman couldn't see him winning through the playoffs. They called it right, we called it wrong, surprise surprise.

I didn't agree with it at the time but didn't think we'd go up under Wilson given our 'special skill' in play offs.
Pigs did the same with Smeghead but they replaced him with a manager who'd won promotion before and had operated in the top flight, we replaced DW with Morgan. At times like that our owner had to look beyond his Roy of the Rovers comics and make decisions based on careful analysis of the facts, not some fantasy scenario that might work out once in thirty years.
 
I hope you're right finlay - and I think you are. I was having a dig at the stupidity of McCabe's decision to sack Wilson in the same situation. I can't see anything other than us finishing top 2 tbh. And I'll tell you something else...with Wilder in charge I wouldn't rule out a double promotion back to the Prem! Now wouldn't that be nice?

Double promotion. I'd rather get this first promotion out of the way and in the bag before we start looking at a second straight promotion
 

Double promotion. I'd rather get this first promotion out of the way and in the bag before we start looking at a second straight promotion
I'd rather we forget things like double promotions and be thankful we've got a capable manager. As far as I'm concerned CW can have as much time as he needs to get us out of this league, stabilise us in the championship and turn us into a team that can compete. Or we can be like the Birmingham owners and get rid of a good manager for failing to be above teams with double the budget.
 

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