Why can't we have the full bramall lane end and give away side Pukka pies corner?

[Ballinpigpubs13]

Have to start at pitch level anyway don't they?

BLLT does, PPC doesn't.

Newcastle away certainly isn't pitch level so don't know why this is a consideration?

 

[Selly]

They’re exempt from the rule on safety grounds.

What possible safety concerns could exist in a modern 55k seater stadium?

Absolute tosh (not your assertion Danny04 - the fact that that is the reason)

 

[bromtom]

Newcastle away certainly isn't pitch level so don't know why this is a consideration?

I think that's why they have to be at pitch level now. So clubs can't stick away fans up in the gods.

From a Sky Sports story:

"Newcastle were granted a special dispensation to be excluded from a Premier League rule stating visiting fans must be housed at pitchside level"

 

[Sheffsteel]

There's the gap between it and the Kop, which I don't get? Maybe it's for access to some part of the Kop that needs to be checked, like the pillar, don't know but it's ugly, and if it isn't for inspection reasons, it should have butt right up against the Kop so that there'd be more useful seats.

It's just a reyt state.

Ive been in the corner stand and there’s no gap, it goes right up to the Kop.

Agree it’s not ideal but I assume the plan was to increase capacity, even if only by 900.
What would you have done? Left it blank and have a lower capacity.
If they could remove the pillar and the wall, every seat would offer a really good view up there.

 

[bromtom]

Ive been in the corner stand and there’s no gap, it goes right up to the Kop.

Agree it’s not ideal but I assume the plan was to increase capacity, even if only by 900.
What would you have done? Left it blank and have a lower capacity.
If they could remove the pillar and the wall, every seat would offer a really good view up there.

There's a slight gap, probably only a seat or so wide and it looks like it's for roof access of the corner but that's a few more seats that aren't restricted view if there was a way to make that access from within the stand.



I'd have had it done properly, I unfortunately can't remember who it is on here but they worked for the firm who was beaten out by the eventual architects and apparently said architects knew they'd half arsed it and we're just happy with the cheque. Think the quote was that they'd put their C team on it or something.

I think if the JS wall could have gone any further back they would have done it when they were taking the side out to be honest. Think it's just exceptionally poorly designed.

 

[John Snow]

Oh you mean Manchester United? Don't think away fans are in the heavens anymore

10 seconds research on the seating plan disagrees.

 

[stringer]

10 seconds research on the seating plan disagrees.

You're obviously a lot more arsed about it than I am, then. At least some away fans in the Prem have to be seated pitchside, Newcastle have an exemption from that. Either Man United have one too, or have some fans seated pitchside.

 

[John Snow]

You're obviously a lot more arsed about it than I am, then. At least some away fans in the Prem have to be seated pitchside, Newcastle have an exemption from that. Either Man United have one too, or have some fans seated pitchside.

Good that you don't need to actually research before writing for a living isn't it?
You should consider working for a shit failing provincial rag.
Have a lovely day.

 

[stringer]

Good that you don't need to actually research before writing for a living isn't it?
You should consider working for a shit failing provincial rag.
Have a lovely day.

Thanks, John. What do you do for a living?

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Good that you don't need to actually research before writing for a living isn't it?
You should consider working for a shit failing provincial rag.
Have a lovely day.

Do you know why Newcastle get this dispensation?. St James Park will be a new ground for me next season,I do hope the lifts are working!!

 

[John Snow]

Thanks, John. What do you do for a living?

Divide my time between ruling the North, defeating the Night King and shagging a real fit bird who keeps dragons mate.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Divide my time between ruling the North, defeating the Night King and shagging a real fit bird who keeps dragons mate.

That bird you mention,you need to keep an eye on her,she’s bonkers

 

[John Snow]

Do you know why Newcastle get this dispensation?. St James Park will be a new ground for me next season,I do hope the lifts are working!!

A few botlles of Broon Ale and some Pease pudding and stotty cake and you'll fly up there. Might struggle with vertigo mind.

 

[John Snow]

That bird you mention,you need to keep an eye on her,she’s bonkers

Think you might have something. She's off the scale in the sack though,

 

[8lade]

Divide my time between ruling the North, defeating the Night King and shagging a real fit bird who keeps dragons mate.

yeah Danny pulled that question on me when we had a brief discussion, found it amusing when I told him what I did. Of course that was what I do now as I'm retired I've also been a project manager, avionics engineer and technical author to name several other jobs in 35 years of work. Left it because it said more about him that he felt superior as a journalist!

 

[Addison]

“Following a number of meetings of the stadium Safety Advisory Group, the Local Authority formally agreed not to support any move of away supporters from their current location, concluding that such a relocation would introduce a significant risk to spectator safety.

Newcastle SAG got them the dispensation to avoid pitch side away fans. So SAG over rules Premier League. Expect the same level of segregation to be in place at the Lane next season, at least we may get the whole of the BLUT.

 

[John Snow]

yeah Danny pulled that question on me when we had a brief discussion, found it amusing when I told him what I did. Of course that was what I do now as I'm retired I've also been a project manager, avionics engineer and technical author to name several other jobs in 35 years of work. Left it because it said more about him that he felt superior as a journalist!

Interesting.
I do feel he exhibits feelings of superiority in his postings as he loves to "correct" mere mortals using his privileged inside info.
He seldom actually posts as a fan and let's it all out.
Too late now. The genies out of the bottle but he chose to come out of the closet. Could have stayed there and posted with passion of and freedom like fans do.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

“Following a number of meetings of the stadium Safety Advisory Group, the Local Authority formally agreed not to support any move of away supporters from their current location, concluding that such a relocation would introduce a significant risk to spectator safety.

Newcastle SAG got them the dispensation to avoid pitch side away fans. So SAG over rules Premier League. Expect the same level of segregation to be in place at the Lane next season, at least we may get the whole of the BLUT.

That’s the bottom corner of the TC and John Street netted off then,what’s that about 500 seats taken out of use,add in the rows above in the BLUT taken out of use for ‘safety reasons’ ,good old SAG/SYP

 

[bromtom]

That’s the bottom corner of the TC and John Street netted off then,what’s that about 500 seats taken out of use,add in the rows above in the BLUT taken out of use for ‘safety reasons’ ,good old SAG/SYP

If McCabe wins and sells we won't be using his security firm, the one that came out in court, it's called Premier Security although based on the segregation and their inability to a) stop people getting on the pitch and b) give a shit that people are on the pitch, they are obviously not premium haha

Maybe we'll get some hard stewards that can run and SAG will give us more seats.

 

[Bladesman]

Looks decent from outside, inside it's just bizarre, when there's so few seats, make it so you can actually see the pitch, the brick wall on the John Street side, why? Just build it so the seats start from there and go forward, this picture which someone on here took from the Kop just makes it clear that whoever designed this was a cretin of the highest order.

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There's the gap between it and the Kop, which I don't get? Maybe it's for access to some part of the Kop that needs to be checked, like the pillar, don't know but it's ugly, and if it isn't for inspection reasons, it should have butt right up against the Kop so that there'd be more useful seats.

It's just a reyt state.

Everything about that stand is wrong. It looks tacked on, not enough seats, poor view and poor access.

Also, didn't a builder lose their life working on that corner?

 

[bromtom]

Everything about that stand is wrong. It looks tacked on, not enough seats, poor view and poor access.

Also, didn't a builder lose their life working on that corner?

Yeah.

Bexhill Alliance

With central and local government finance very much in the news, the fifth and final seminar given by RDC officers to Bexhill Alliance members could not have been better timed.

www.yorkshirepost.co.uk

 

[Ginger Gnome]

It's better to think of the Pukka Pie corner from the other direction, it's a toilet block for the Kop that just happens to have some seats around the back of it.

 

[BushBlade]

“Following a number of meetings of the stadium Safety Advisory Group, the Local Authority formally agreed not to support any move of away supporters from their current location, concluding that such a relocation would introduce a significant risk to spectator safety.

Newcastle SAG got them the dispensation to avoid pitch side away fans. So SAG over rules Premier League. Expect the same level of segregation to be in place at the Lane next season, at least we may get the whole of the BLUT.

It doesn’t necessarily mean SAG rules over PL, it could just as easily mean the SAG put forward a reasoned and credible case and the PL accepted it.

 

[HolmesfieldBlade]

I’d much prefer the pukka pies stand to be demolished. Easily the worst piece of modern football stadium architecture I’ve ever seen. BLLT is perfect for away fans for both location and number of seats.

It’s truly awful. And pointless in terms of adding any decent seating numbers

 

[S64 Blade]

10 seconds research on the seating plan disagrees.

Fans are basically pitch side at Old Trafford. The only reason they are not is because the disabled section is at the front.

 

[S64 Blade]

Think you might have something. She's off the scale in the sack though,

She's your aunty.

 

[John Snow]

Fans are basically pitch side at Old Trafford. The only reason they are not is because the disabled section is at the front.

So they're not pitch side. The section for people with disabilities is and it means away fans aren't.
Yes or no?

 

[John Snow]

She's your aunty.

Rather be doing mine than yours.

 

[S64 Blade]

So they're not pitch side. The section for people with disabilities is and it means away fans aren't.
Yes or no?

But that's why there's the dispensation - the question that you have been posing. They're as close to the pitch as they possibly can be. I don't think it's that unreasonable.

They're not in the heavens, as you suggested earlier.

 

[S64 Blade]

Rather be doing mine than yours.

I don't have one.