What will it take for blackie to get the boot?

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There's no manager living could have done any better than he has under the curcumstance he's been made to work under.

I had to rub my eyes a few times to see if this statement was really there. Absolutely unbelievable. I've just checked the calendar Willie and you are a day early. It's April Fools Day tomorrow.
 
Willie is Getting bashed tonight !!

Poor old Willie Carlin,I love him really but he's had some stick tonight for this one
"There's no manager living could have done any better than he has under the curcumstance he's been made to work under"

Stand up Willie Carlin winner of the 2010 All Fools Eve Award

P.S. Does anyone think I should apply for a job at The Sun thinking headlines up ? :D
 
P.S. Does anyone think I should apply for a job at The Sun thinking headlines up ?

No.

Thought you were telling us what you were up to tonight?
 
GRUMPY BLADE said:
P.S. Does anyone think I should apply for a job at The Sun thinking headlines up ?

No.

Thought you were telling us what you were up to tonight?
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lol Is the Pen Nook still up and running used to enjoy that place must be 13 years since I was in mind
 
"There's no manager living could have done any better than he has under the curcumstance he's been made to work under"

Now that is probably the funniest thing I have ever heard.
Don't know what you're on but can I have some please.
 
mickle-blade said:
"There's no manager living could have done any better than he has under the curcumstance he's been made to work under"

Now that is probably the funniest thing I have ever heard.
Don't know what you're on but can I have some please.
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Forgive the guy a little hyperbole...

To me the statement is no more or less ridiculous than the far more common demonisation of Blackwell.
 
I know a lot of the of the 'anti Blackwell' rants have been well over the top and in some cases ridiculous but to say that no other manager could have done a better job this season is quite frankly a ludicrous thing to say.
But, fair do's.
If anyone wants to sing the praises of the manager good luck to them.
We have endured worst times and no doubt we will again.
 
What will it take for Blackwell to get the sack?
Easy!
Don't go to anymore home games this season
That will get the message to Birch and McCabe
Continue to go Blackwell will be there
He will not resign
He is too arrogant, self centred and up his own arse to resign
A clear and concise message needs to be sent
Don't go to the games
The empty seats will tell Mccabe exactly what we feel!
 
I fear relegation next season if nothing changes, i really do. :(
 
Kev Gee said:
I fear relegation next season if nothing changes, i really do. :(
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We're not that bad Kev. But we will certainly find the going tough. Mid-table to upper bottom half is a distinct possibility. Which isn't good enough for Sheffield United, no matter where we are financially.
 
Willie Carlin said:
I've asked this before but here goes again. Hollawy, Stracken , O'Driscoll, Coleman and the Reading managers teams are all on roughly the same points as Blackwell and United. To hear people talk Hollaway has worked wonders as has the Reading manager. O'Driscoll is Gods gift to football management. Stracken and Coleman are rebuilding. Are there fans asking for their blood I wonder. Yet some United fans go on about nothing else other than getting Blackwell the boot. Some say he should have had the balls to tell McCabe if he was going to sell players from under him he would resign. Do these people live in the real world, turn away from a £400,000 a year job. I don't think so to do that would have been verging on sheer stupidity. It isn't Blackwells fault United are in the financial state they are. There's no manager living could have done any better than he has under the curcumstance he's been made to work under.
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Sorry mate but I disagree ....... all the managers you list have their teams playing better football than us (more watchable) and with the players we do have, all of which are CAPABLE of playing a passing game as we have seen in short patches, I would argue that my mum could get us playing more entertaining football on the same resources.
UTB
 

Some mentioned other managers being in the same boat as us, well just to talk about one , the doncaster manager, he has built his squads with a total outlay of about £2.5m , now concidering ours is worth a lot more i think you cannot say hes in the same boat as us, our squad is worth a lot more and cost a lot more, does anyone know how much blackwell has spent since he arrived, it would be intresting to see how much.
 
davidpinder said:
Or walk?

Lots of posts flying around wanting him out now, at the end of the season or sometime soon. I fear we will have got to go through another year of bad football, loanees, excuse after excuse, and lots of hugs for opposition managers. So what will it take for him to get the boot or walk?

Boot
Poor season ticket sales?
3-6 points between now and the end of the season?
A bottom half finish?
Player fall outs?
Shoes off in car park?
Both Donny and Barnsley above us?

Walk
Asked to make further cuts?
Sell before you buy?
McCabe to sell up?

Anymore thoughts are welcome :confused:
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The Board will only give him the boot if they are forced into it by the supporters, because he is a yes man following their instructions without question.

He will not walk because he knows he will not get another job above Div 1 level.

The ball is in our court, if you feel strongly enough that Blackwell isn't up to the job, do what I have done and write to McCabe / Birch and demand his removal (in a polite and constructive way, of course). Otherwise, nothing will change for the forseeable future.
UTB
 
Ollessendro said:
He might have had his hands tired, but his signings have been woeful.
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Agree with much of what you say Ollie, but Cresswell, Ward, Williamson and Yeates are not woeful signings. True, he hasn't got anything like a 100% positive record on decent buys, but nor has any other manager. Even Fergie has bought some clunkers in his time.
 
Season ticket sales is the most likely factor in his potential departure.
Losing the next three games should just about do it.
Sack him before the match at S6, extend season ticket deadline, make clear statement of intent, approach O'Driscoll (assuming Donny have joined us on the beach by then) and then see how we go.
 
He won't be sacked, he'll walk on his own sighting lack of investments and lack of fan patience.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
He won't be sacked, he'll walk on his own sighting lack of investments and lack of fan patience.
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Time will tell, maybe this season was for the clear out and promises made to keep him away from the QPR job will be delivered next season?
 
Ollessendro said:
Havie you been watching the games Willie?

How people can defend the man that is leading that debacle is beyond me.

Your statement is bold just makes me laugh. Hnag on, it's you isn't it Kevin? He has slowly managed to turn a good team bad. He might have had his hands tired, but his signings have been woeful. He has refused to play players who are good quality becuase they don't fit into his system. As Grecian points out his negativity is the worst factor. He has refused to play qaulity players because they 'can't defend', constantly plays players out of position and is tactically inept. His style is defend and hoof. Not only is it boring to watch, but it doesn't work. We've been found out and we're going downhill. Exactly the same way he took Leeds and Luton.
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Yes I'm a season ticket holder and I've been to all home games and managed a few away games as well.
The most vital thing of a successful side is to have a settled one which Blackwell hasn't had the luxury of having. To say the injury situation United have had hasn't effected us this season is quite frankly silly. This together with having to sell his quality players which he had no control over are the two main factors behind our demise this season and not Blackwell management. I may have gone over the top a tad saying no manager living could have done any better it should have read; No manager United could have realistically brought in could have done a better job if he had the same financial restictions and injury problems Blackwell had. Thats my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

PS. I wonder what McCabe and Birch think to what kind of job Blackwell has done ;)
 
Willie,
We could all agree to disagree on whether Blackwell could have done better or not given the cards he was dealt.
But the bigger issue is that we have a complete rebuilding job in the summer, a lot of players to bring in, and do we really want Blackwell to be the man recruiting them with his blueprint for playing the game?
For me, it's a definite no.
This is a chance to start again with a manager dedicated to getting us playing football and stamping that culture on the club and right throughout the club.
The worst possible outcome will be Blackwell bringing in another collection of odds and sods, more of the same with no discernable pattern of play, a relegation battle, an inevitable sacking and a batch of Blackwell-acquired players all then on full contracts.
 
lenners said:
Willie,
We could all agree to disagree on whether Blackwell could have done better or not given the cards he was dealt.
But the bigger issue is that we have a complete rebuilding job in the summer, a lot of players to bring in, and do we really want Blackwell to be the man recruiting them with his blueprint for playing the game?
For me, it's a definite no.
This is a chance to start again with a manager dedicated to getting us playing football and stamping that culture on the club and right throughout the club.
The worst possible outcome will be Blackwell bringing in another collection of odds and sods, more of the same with no discernable pattern of play, a relegation battle, an inevitable sacking and a batch of Blackwell-acquired players all then on full contracts.
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I'm not giving credit to Blackwell for playing good football Len but with the tools he's had he's done well to keep United in with a shout as long as he did. I think credit where credits due. It could be time to move on but who is the manager who could do what you say? What I've seen of some of the forums whoever takes over from Blackwell if he did go would have similar treatment as Blackwell has. I know your a fan of Mick McCarthy as I am. The season before they were promoted their crowd were shouting for his head. I said when Blackwell came he should be given at least 3 years to do the job. During that time the goalposts have been moved through our financial situation. No matter how this came about its a fact that it's been a major factor to what has happened. Who do you think fans would have the patience with and give time to build a good successful team in say 3 years ?
 
I think you should start at least three threads every day, going over and over this matter from slightly different angles. Worth a try..?


yes

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He wants to work on team shape and passing!!!

Chase around aimlessly;

Pretend the ball is a red hot coal;

Kick it hard; kick it high; kick it far.

Job done.
 
Willie Carlin said:
I'm not giving credit to Blackwell for playing good football Len but with the tools he's had he's done well to keep United in with a shout as long as he did. I think credit where credits due. It could be time to move on but who is the manager who could do what you say? What I've seen of some of the forums whoever takes over from Blackwell if he did go would have similar treatment as Blackwell has. I know your a fan of Mick McCarthy as I am. The season before they were promoted their crowd were shouting for his head. I said when Blackwell came he should be given at least 3 years to do the job. During that time the goalposts have been moved through our financial situation. No matter how this came about its a fact that it's been a major factor to what has happened. Who do you think fans would have the patience with and give time to build a good successful team in say 3 years ?
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I don't really agree with him doing well keeping United in with a shout.
We haven't won an away game in about five months, that's an appalling statistic particularly when we have managed to do ok at home.
Just a couple of wins would have made a huge difference.
What I think maybe going through McCabe's mind is that he sees Blackwell as another Warnock, who took seven years to get us up.
Unfortunately, I don't think he has the same thick skin or an ability to get more out of players or the same affinity with the fans, even if Warnock was never really liked by a good chunk of fans, or the same ability to spin the bull with the media.
I go back to my earlier point though and the fact that United would be better served by making a clear decision to change the culture of the club, from the academy upwards.
O'Driscoll is worth a go or I'd love to see Mowbray but presumably the finances would rule him out.
I also think we need some quantitative easing in how we go about sorting out the finances because just cutting and cutting is going to lose a heck of a lot of fans and once they're gone it's much harder to get them back - see SWFC for an example.
 

lenners said:
Willie,
We could all agree to disagree on whether Blackwell could have done better or not given the cards he was dealt.
But the bigger issue is that we have a complete rebuilding job in the summer, a lot of players to bring in, and do we really want Blackwell to be the man recruiting them with his blueprint for playing the game?
For me, it's a definite no.

Blackwell will still be here next season, Len, we all know that don't we?

This is a chance to start again with a manager dedicated to getting us playing football and stamping that culture on the club and right throughout the club.
You might just find that Blackwell surprises us all

The worst possible outcome will be Blackwell bringing in another collection of odds and sods, more of the same with no discernable pattern of play, a relegation battle, an inevitable sacking and a batch of Blackwell-acquired players all then on full contracts.
To be honest, I don't think he will go down that route - well I hope to heaven he doesn't - you got me worried now ;)
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