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With two minutes left, NA puts on J C-R as sub. On the left wing....

Close. JCR will jump up and down on the touch line with 2 minutes to go. By that time we will be getting battered with non stop corners, so he won't get on until the clock ticks over to 90 minutes. With his one and only touch of the ball, he will jink past the right back, put a perfect cross in, but no one will have bothered to run forward to get on the end of it.
 



simple: McCabe to sell up (ground included!!!). He's the common theme throughout our troubles for the past 10 years.

Will it improve without him? Who knows, it can't get much worse!
It could get much worse.

Think Bolton & Pompey. Clubs with a great tradition and a recent past not dissimilar to our own.

So I think your point is, well, flawed.

Not saying things are great btw !!

UTB
 
Think Bolton & Pompey. Clubs with a great tradition and a recent past not dissimilar to our own.

We appointed Redknapp, spent >£100 million on players and won the FA Cup? I must have slept through that period of our history. We are nothing like those clubs (and if we are, the only person who can shoulder that responsibility is ... McCabe!).

We are a large city based club with one of the best attendances in the country (in-spite of our league position!). We should be quite capable of living within our means and being in the league above, or even the one above that one!

We are where we are because of the string of disastrous decisions made by McCabe. Kevin McCabe needs to look in the mirror and realise the reason Kevin McCabe (and Sheffield United) has lost so much money is standing right in front of him, take the financial hit and sell at market value ("market value" being whatever he can get!).

Edit: just to explain why I said we were nothing like Bolton/Portsmouth. Both of those clubs spent a fortune trying to maintain a league position above their station (and had moderate success doing that, for a while). They were speculating and punching above their weight. That is not true of us, and never has been. Even without spending big, we should, at the very minimum, be a mid-Championship team (or even mid-top tier). If we are seriously spending a fortune and losing piles of cash occupying mid-table League One on 20k gates and the recent cup runs, then we really do need to chase the board out of town with pitchforks! (and for the record, I do think that we are doing that!).
 
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So be careful what you wish. At least McCabe is a Blade a cares about the club.

This is pretty much all he's got going for him these days in retaining the support he's got left - (i) he's a Blade, (ii) fear of how things might turn out without him.

The fear thing has big parallels with what we're going to be hearing over the next few months about the EU - stick with what you know (however bad it is); the alternative has got to be worse...

There are all sorts of comparisons, good & bad, that can be made with clubs that have moved on from previous owners. It's always the bad examples that are used though. Fear reigns.

As for the "he's a Blade" argument - similarly, good & bad parallels exist elsewhere: Steve Gibson's a Smoggie; Karl Oyston's a Tangerine. There's as much reason to fear a Blade as a non-Blade. We need competence (& ongoing investment, & vision, & strategy) - Bladeybladeness isn't really here or there.
 
I'll be there in the car park, unless I am cold, or its raining, or I want to get to the pub. Actually now I think about it - I definitely won't be there.
This.

The board might get lucky as the weather is on their side today I think.

If we are still mid table, come a nice early spring evening then things could turn nasty.
 
If we are serious then the OP has a great point.

We have to be professional with a carefully considered actual manifesto
Otherwise we just come across as an emotional amateur rabble.

But I'm not sure what we'd have on the manifesto. Some people say we should never have appointed Robson but that it the past. We need solutions for the here and now to effect the short term future.

Just imagine the scene.

Protestors: We are protesting about our current position.
Board: We're not happy about our position either but what do you suggest. We are listening.
Protestors: well we need to show ambition and bring in a top level manager.
Board: We've only just done that. Adkins is the highest paid manager in the league. He had offers in the Champiosnhip and it was a coup and a sign of ambition that we persuaded him to drop into league 1.
Protestors: yeh but we need better players.
Board: we've backed the manager and spent substantial sums on quality players from the divisions above.
Are you suggesting we pay less money and buy untested players from the leagues below?
Protestors: we're not happy as the club should be spending much much more. Where are these millions.
Board: We have a responsibility to protect the future of the club and don't want to do a Portsmouth and risk going. Bankrupt. Etc...etc...

I haven't seen any serious realistic suggestions to logically take things forward.
Normally I would want Adkins sacking but that's not worked in the past and its financially harmful to keep paying mamagement when those funds should go on players.
 
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This is the general complaint which most want to happen (including me).

However the response from McCabe would be "what do you think I've been trying to do?"
I suppose the sticking point is that McCabe would value the club at a high amount putting off investors But to be fair if investors are worried about a few million then they've dont have enough funds anyway. We need a billionaire not a millionaire or a consortium of several ambitious millionaires.

Another issue for the fans.
Should McCabe sell to anyone or only to people who he trusts can take SU forward?

It's been said before but McCabe could sell to Lee Fuck Yoo the Chinese billionaire.
Lee instantly does a Chansiri and puts prices up to £30 on the Kop and £35 in the other stands for league 1 football. He then changes the badge a little and puts a Chinese dragon on it.
He brings in a top Chinese manager and we buy half the Chinese international team all on £20K a week wages.
On the field it's successful as we find ourselves top of league 1 but the club makes a 20 million loss just its first year. There are rumours that we might be sanctioned or prevented from promotion due to ignoring FFP rules.

However I wouldn't be going because for me the club would be dead.
So be careful what you wish. At least McCabe is a Blade a cares about the club.

I look at the comments by 90% of our fans and they live on another planet.
I can understand the comments
Let's sack the board. We don't need anyone running the club. We don't need a manager.
Let the fans run the club. Let the fans pick the team and choose players etc etc.
Let's all season ticket holders (13,000 of us) put in £3000 quid to buy out the board forgetting that it would be £3000 every year for possibly many years with no gaurantee you'll get your money back and every time someone drops out the fee goes up. How many Blades care enough about the club to throw money into a pit.

But it's total nonsense

Amen
Hallelujah
and
Praise the Lord

Exactly.

There are things that need improving (you don't say) but I've not seen much inspiration or insight on exactly what just yet.
 
I've wrote promotion off, it's long gone IMO. When the games come around I just want them to win or at least put in a decent performance.

Off the field - would be good if McCabe could find someone to sell up. Going to be difficult to find anyone willing to buy the club with 2 owners. One might want to sell, the other not and whoever is interested won't want 50/50. Think we are stuck with them.
 
I think it all comes down to intent, minute one, play the Game to win

Adkins should show that mindset

He doesnt
 
If we are serious then the OP has a great point.

We have to be professional with a carefully considered actual manifesto
Otherwise we just come across as an emotional amateur rabble.

But I'm not sure what we'd have on the manifesto. Some people say we should never have appointed Robson but that it the past. We need solutions for the here and now to effect the short term future.

Just imagine the scene.

Protestors: We are protesting about our current position.
Board: We're not happy about our position either but what do you suggest. We are listening.
Protestors: well we need to show ambition and bring in a top level manager.
Board: We've only just done that. Adkins is the highest paid manager in the league. He had offers in the Champiosnhip and it was a coup and a sign of ambition that we persuaded him to drop into league 1.
Protestors: yeh but we need better players.
Board: we've backed the manager and spent substantial sums on quality players from the divisions above.
Are you suggesting we pay less money and buy untested players from the leagues below?
Protestors: we're not happy as the club should be spending much much more. Where are these millions.
Board: We have a responsibility to protect the future of the club and don't want to do a Portsmouth and risk going. Bankrupt. Etc...etc...

I haven't seen any serious realistic suggestions to logically take things forward.
Normally I would want Adkins sacking but that's not worked in the past and its financially harmful to keep paying mamagement when those funds should go on players.

Emotional amateur rabble. That's a provocative statement.
"Let it come down" :-)

Posted twice elsewhere that for me a good manifesto would be pretty much what Adkins said in his interview.

Maybe with some additions.

Backing Adkins, which I do fully, cannot be unconditional. If that's not a contradiction.

So, at the risk of deteriorating into management cliche some sort of informal Performance Management Review might be an idea.

But at the moment it's hard to be clear on objectives without producing some kind of flowchart.

We go up. Great. Till we actually start playing next season anyway...

Next Christmas would be a good time to assess, but what's the least we could expect?

If we've signed young players they might still be gelling - and it might be becoming apparent that one or two aren't up to it. Consequently we're 8th or 9th.

Should we sack Adkins in those circumstances?

It's a difficult situation.

Hope someone's got good ideas.
 
Demand a plan we can sign up to or just not bother.

There's no apparent plan at the moment. Be brave Jim lad, tell us how it is now and for the rest of the season, the summer and next season.

Don't worry about this season, it's gone. Set the scene for the manager to do his job without any innuendo or guesses about the conditions he's working under.
 



This.

The board might get lucky as the weather is on their side today I think.

If we are still mid table, come a nice early spring evening then things could turn nasty.

And there seems to be an appetite for nastiness amongst a few.

A bit like the kids pulling down the aircon at Donny.
 
Demand a plan we can sign up to or just not bother.

There's no apparent plan at the moment. Be brave Jim lad, tell us how it is now and for the rest of the season, the summer and next season.

Don't worry about this season, it's gone. Set the scene for the manager to do his job without any innuendo or guesses about the conditions he's working under.

You think we should publicly give up on promotion?

I don't.

I think we pursue it as hard as we can with what we've got and we should, of course, recruitmentwise, have been planning for both eventualities next season for a while.
 
Demand a plan we can sign up to or just not bother.

There's no apparent plan at the moment. Be brave Jim lad, tell us how it is now and for the rest of the season, the summer and next season.

Don't worry about this season, it's gone. Set the scene for the manager to do his job without any innuendo or guesses about the conditions he's working under.

Basically I agree with the call for clarity.

But I think this is what Adkins set out in his interview.

He took responsibility. He's front and centre.

Any "full support of the board" type statements can appear to be the immediate precursor to sacking.

So the manager takes the lead.
 
'Passion' and 'entertainment' and there's a good chance the rest will follow (including getting rid of a manager who doesn't know the meaning of the words). Some people say 'It's all about winning and the rest is immaterial' but they're wrong. Blackwell had a good win-per-game ratio but the football was turgid.

A bloke was on FH last night saying he 'couldn't wait' to go to the Barnsley v Donnie game today. 'A proper South Yorkshire derby.'

I can't remember the last United game I 'couldn't wait' to attend. Here's my predictions.

A turgid first half, in which the opposition goalkeeper wasn't tested once.
In the second half, Port Vale realise we're there for the taking and begin to press.
United pull all eleven back, inviting PV onto us. ('Oi, Done! What are you doing up near the halfway line when your aerial prowess is better utilised defending the latest in a long line of corners we've conceded?')
Port Vale score.
A large number of our intolerant and impatient fans decide to leave to catch Bournemouth v Everton and watch a wierd, alien game called 'football'.
With two minutes left, NA puts on J C-R as sub. On the left wing....

Simple today, gerit in box and cause some chaos.

That will get the fans on the edge of their seats and will generate some atmosphere.
 
"Sack the board".(McCabe)

Of course, in itself, it is a silly statement. But the valuation of a club will be entirely linked to how happy the owner is with his asset. Making him very uncomfortable about the situation is a good thing, from here.

Unless he decides to sell it for flats.
 
What do we want? A centre back!
When do we want it? When Hammond's back at Leicester so we can afford one!

Not the catchiest but the best I can do at short notice
 
Basically I agree with the call for clarity.

But I think this is what Adkins set out in his interview.

He took responsibility. He's front and centre.

Any "full support of the board" type statements can appear to be the immediate precursor to sacking.

So the manager takes the lead.
I have to go with the consensus on this one. Though I've argued a fair bit about not putting too much significance on them, I don't agree with you that anything of significance was clarified in his last interview. It was all very generic stuff, IMHO.

In any case, given that we are desperate to build a new team, there is zero clarity about any forthcoming investment. All the signs are bad.

UTB
 
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This is the general complaint which most want to happen (including me).

However the response from McCabe would be "what do you think I've been trying to do?"
I suppose the sticking point is that McCabe would value the club at a high amount putting off investors But to be fair if investors are worried about a few million then they've dont have enough funds anyway. We need a billionaire not a millionaire or a consortium of several ambitious millionaires.

Another issue for the fans.
Should McCabe sell to anyone or only to people who he trusts can take SU forward?

It's been said before but McCabe could sell to Lee Fuck Yoo the Chinese billionaire.
Lee instantly does a Chansiri and puts prices up to £30 on the Kop and £35 in the other stands for league 1 football. He then changes the badge a little and puts a Chinese dragon on it.
He brings in a top Chinese manager and we buy half the Chinese international team all on £20K a week wages.
On the field it's successful as we find ourselves top of league 1 but the club makes a 20 million loss just its first year. There are rumours that we might be sanctioned or prevented from promotion due to ignoring FFP rules.

However I wouldn't be going because for me the club would be dead.
So be careful what you wish. At least McCabe is a Blade a cares about the club.

I look at the comments by 90% of our fans and they live on another planet.
I can understand the comments
Let's sack the board. We don't need anyone running the club. We don't need a manager.
Let the fans run the club. Let the fans pick the team and choose players etc etc.
Let's all season ticket holders (13,000 of us) put in £3000 quid to buy out the board forgetting that it would be £3000 every year for possibly many years with no gaurantee you'll get your money back and every time someone drops out the fee goes up. How many Blades care enough about the club to throw money into a pit.

But it's total nonsense




I'm passed caring about who takes over, I'm past caring what they may or my not do, what their ulterior motive is or where the bleedin hell they come from.
In fact that's a lie, I do care where they come from because I don't want them to come from anywhere close to the backward shithole that is Sheffield where even a multi millionaire has just as backward a view of what's best for the club as the rest of the people that live here.

And the last thing we need is some other billy big bolox, two bob millionaire, carpet emporium owner or Fruit & Veg merchant who happens to be a Blade

We need, a:
Foreign investor with major ambition to get this club going forward again.
Foreign investor with no predetermined view that Sheffield United only exist to make the numbers up.
Foreign investor with no knowledge that all he has to do is keep the club in business.
Serious Foreign investor
Serious Foreign investor
Serious Foreign investor, every single time for me.
 



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