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Wake up call today, plenty of work left this season so what type of player do we need to come into the first team to drive us forward?

I think Riley or another wing back type is a must, Done is not cover for this position.

A class striker, Sharp isn't going to score every game, Lavery is a good player but not an out and out striker, Clarke is shite. This should be our biggest spend in January.

Keeper? Moore is hot and cold, makes some brilliant saves but also has that moment in him, recently too many moments, would Wilder be looking here or would he be happy with Ramsdale to come in if required?

Maybe another centre half? I think Wright holds them together but if CW see's it otherwise there are question marks about them right now, maybe Webster is still on the hit list.

We are not far away but the right signings now could be the difference between automatic and the dreaded play offs.
 

Wilder said '2 or 3 on our radar'. Not sure if that included Riley as by all accounts that deal is done and dusted.

Assuming then that we could have 3 more in addition to him, I think we need a pacey attacking player who likes to drift wide but can also play centrally, a poweful CF who is good in the air and maybe another CB as we need to cover for injuries if nothing else. That is unless Wilder thinks he has enough cover in Wright and Wilson? Many might question that?

I think he will stick with Moore. Despite the odd flap he has still been fairly solid for us but I do worry that today might have dented his confidence significantly. We will soon see what he is made of I suppose.
 
Wake up call today, plenty of work left this season so what type of player do we need to come into the first team to drive us forward?

I think Riley or another wing back type is a must, Done is not cover for this position.

A class striker, Sharp isn't going to score every game, Lavery is a good player but not an out and out striker, Clarke is shite. This should be our biggest spend in January.

Keeper? Moore is hot and cold, makes some brilliant saves but also has that moment in him, recently too many moments, would Wilder be looking here or would he be happy with Ramsdale to come in if required?

Maybe another centre half? I think Wright holds them together but if CW see's it otherwise there are question marks about them right now, maybe Webster is still on the hit list.

We are not far away but the right signings now could be the difference between automatic and the dreaded play offs.

I have said a few times, on a few threads, we should be (or should have been) looking at James Vaughn at Bury. The lad is 4th best striker in the league (14 goals), for a team that is one place above the drop, and one bad result puts them in the bottom 4. I would have thought he would love the chance of avoiding League 2 and come to a bigger club.
 
I have said a few times, on a few threads, we should be (or should have been) looking at James Vaughn at Bury. The lad is 4th best striker in the league (14 goals), for a team that is one place above the drop, and one bad result puts them in the bottom 4. I would have thought he would love the chance of avoiding League 2 and come to a bigger club.

Maybe swap him with Clarke LOL
 
Wilder said '2 or 3 on our radar'. Not sure if that included Riley as by all accounts that deal is done and dusted.

Assuming then that we could have 3 more in addition to him, I think we need a pacey attacking player who likes to drift wide but can also play centrally, a poweful CF who is good in the air and maybe another CB as we need to cover for injuries if nothing else. That is unless Wilder thinks he has enough cover in Wright and Wilson? Many might question that?

I think he will stick with Moore. Despite the odd flap he has still been fairly solid for us but I do worry that today might have dented his confidence significantly. We will soon see what he is made of I suppose.
simon moore is a top goalie and everybody has an off day now and again the save against northampton was one of the best saves i have seen at the lane but we definetly need 3 more in and one of those has to be a top striker at this level taylor or gregory for me and cover at centre back webster at millwall is a good shout
 
Wake up call today

I struggle to understand this statement.. Were 2 games beaten in the league all season and theres a 'fluke' result by a bogey team and all of a sudden its a wake up call.. For me, i think theres still work to be done in regards to infront of goal, but other than that we have good wide play and players in Freeman and Laferty, a good partnership with O'Connel and Landell, Basham, Duffy and Fleck run midfield pretty much every game and we have one of the top scorers in the league, all be it, a little inconsistent. The only thing for me would be to get a new striker. Someone who can partner Sharp better than Done. Lavery seems to play that advance play maker role either from out wide or behind the striker(s) even when he's subbed on for Done or Sharp, and from what I hear he played as a winger for the pigs anyway. Clarke looked decent at the start of the season before his injury and held the ball up well for those around him, was just a shame our strikers werent quite up to it at the time, but since coming back he still does a good job of holding up the ball and winning those headers but he almost looks a little lost up there, like he's not quite sure what to do with the ball once he has it, or maybe its that nobody is giving him enough options around him, I suppose thats open to debate. But one thing I do love about him [Clarke] are those runs he makes inbetween defenders from time to time. Moore had a shocker today, and I think we can allow that every once in a while but he's earnt us some great points pulling of some worldy saves along the road so im quite happy to let him off this time round.

I think at this stage its a little naive to suggest that this was a 'wake up call.' Still alot of matches to play and three home games coming up so a massive nine points to be earned.. If after those three games we come back with a multiple goal loss then by all means we can maybe start to worry. Wilder has said that more signings are expected this week and it seems the board are backing all Wilders decisions, and to be fair, why wouldnt they?! Back behind the boys on Saturday and lets go again!

WERE STILL TOP OF THE LEAGUE!!!!!! UTB :)
 
To prey this hiccup was just a blip in our best season in years, and we can now pull away and put abit of distance between ourselves and the bastards below.
 
Whilst i never would willingly take a defeat for Utd, perhaps the loss and margin of it today may just focus minds (both management and board members) again on strengthening that team for the run in. If they had got complacent on any way today might have just reminded them that work is still required and improvements can and should be made. That said, theres not a lot wrong with the.players we already have but we can be better. A goalscorer alongside Sharp for starters for me. Id also like to see Wright back in the back three.
 
Wake up call today, plenty of work left this season so what type of player do we need to come into the first team to drive us forward?

I think Riley or another wing back type is a must, Done is not cover for this position.

A class striker, Sharp isn't going to score every game, Lavery is a good player but not an out and out striker, Clarke is shite. This should be our biggest spend in January.

Keeper? Moore is hot and cold, makes some brilliant saves but also has that moment in him, recently too many moments, would Wilder be looking here or would he be happy with Ramsdale to come in if required?

Maybe another centre half? I think Wright holds them together but if CW see's it otherwise there are question marks about them right now, maybe Webster is still on the hit list.

We are not far away but the right signings now could be the difference between automatic and the dreaded play offs.

Pretty much agree with all of that...

I'm glad that some folks on here are now coming to realise that Done isn't a striker. Something I've argued for months. What's more, Done isn't much of a midfielder either I'm afraid. I can't see him staying beyond the end of this season - good luck to the lad and all that - but we have to be ruthless.

We need a proper striker up front as a priority I'd say. This person would preferably be over 6 foot and have some strength about him along with the ability to score goals. Billy isn't getting any younger -and anyhow, his best role has always been the support man, the poacher. We need someone who can lead the line. Unfortunately that isn't Lavery - although I do like him a lot and think he's fresh and adds something up front - but he's just not powerful enough. Clarke looks like he can't be bothered half the time and he's not going to get games or win admirers if he doesn't show a bit more than he has done so far. And it's not going to be McNulty either, because he's not that type of player either.

Next - we need a good centre half. I have said before that I am not in the EEL fan club. I think he's improved us - I really do, but only because we didn't have anyone at the time with that big physical presence in defence. We should go and get Byron Webster tomorrow from Millwall. He's not only a big centre half but he's a very experienced one too. That's what we miss in central defence. We've got two young lads in EEL and O'Connell. We need a more experienced head in there but not one as old and experienced as Jake Wright.

A pacy player would be good. Preferably a winger. Someone who can rip teams inside out and quickly. Because at times we are so slow at mounting an attack and are over complicating things with all the passing. We need to be able to break quick and wreak havoc. A bit like Jamie Murphy used to do. They get a corner, we leave him up near the half way line. The ball is cleared out to him and he runs 70 yards down towards the goal with it and no one is able to catch him before he dispatches it into the goal. We haven't got 1 player in the entire squad who could do that right now - and we need one - urgently. It would help transform the way we play.

Re goalie...I think Moore is dodgy tbh. I don't care how many wonderful acrobatic flying saves he's made or how many points he's saved us. That doesn't change anything. What you need in a goalkeeper is consistency. You need to be able to rely on him - and I'm sorry - we can't. It's not just about yesterday, but also the week before at Southend and I've also thought he should have got down quicker to save shots in other games before that. He's very well protected playing in this Sheffield United team that is clearly the best footballing team in the division. But when we are up against it, like yesterday, he didn't stand up to the test. In fact, he almost single-handedly lost us the game (with a huge helping hand from that lumbering flat-footed Mr T guy). Would I go out and buy another goalie now? I don't think I would tbh. But I'd consider giving Ramsdale a chance - if Wilder thinks he's ready? If not then I'd look to loan a more experienced goalkeeper in as cover for the next time Moore has a nightmare like he did yesterday. In the meantime, I'd cancel Long's contract and tell him to forget about a career in football altogether.
 
Pretty much agree with all of that...

I'm glad that some folks on here are now coming to realise that Done isn't a striker. Something I've argued for months. What's more, Done isn't much of a midfielder either I'm afraid. I can't see him staying beyond the end of this season - good luck to the lad and all that - but we have to be ruthless.

We need a proper striker up front as a priority I'd say. This person would preferably be over 6 foot and have some strength about him along with the ability to score goals. Billy isn't getting any younger -and anyhow, his best role has always been the support man, the poacher. We need someone who can lead the line. Unfortunately that isn't Lavery - although I do like him a lot and think he's fresh and adds something up front - but he's just not powerful enough. Clarke looks like he can't be bothered half the time and he's not going to get games or win admirers if he doesn't show a bit more than he has done so far. And it's not going to be McNulty either, because he's not that type of player either.

Next - we need a good centre half. I have said before that I am not in the EEL fan club. I think he's improved us - I really do, but only because we didn't have anyone at the time with that big physical presence in defence. We should go and get Byron Webster tomorrow from Millwall. He's not only a big centre half but he's a very experienced one too. That's what we miss in central defence. We've got two young lads in EEL and O'Connell. We need a more experienced head in there but not one as old and experienced as Jake Wright.

A pacy player would be good. Preferably a winger. Someone who can rip teams inside out and quickly. Because at times we are so slow at mounting an attack and are over complicating things with all the passing. We need to be able to break quick and wreak havoc. A bit like Jamie Murphy used to do. They get a corner, we leave him up near the half way line. The ball is cleared out to him and he runs 70 yards down towards the goal with it and no one is able to catch him before he dispatches it into the goal. We haven't got 1 player in the entire squad who could do that right now - and we need one - urgently. It would help transform the way we play.

Re goalie...I think Moore is dodgy tbh. I don't care how many wonderful acrobatic flying saves he's made or how many points he's saved us. That doesn't change anything. What you need in a goalkeeper is consistency. You need to be able to rely on him - and I'm sorry - we can't. It's not just about yesterday, but also the week before at Southend and I've also thought he should have got down quicker to save shots in other games before that. He's very well protected playing in this Sheffield United team that is clearly the best footballing team in the division. But when we are up against it, like yesterday, he didn't stand up to the test. In fact, he almost single-handedly lost us the game (with a huge helping hand from that lumbering flat-footed Mr T guy). Would I go out and buy another goalie now? I don't think I would tbh. But I'd consider giving Ramsdale a chance - if Wilder thinks he's ready? If not then I'd look to loan a more experienced goalkeeper in as cover for the next time Moore has a nightmare like he did yesterday. In the meantime, I'd cancel Long's contract and tell him to forget about a career in football altogether.
i agree on the goalkeeper situation rammy is a top prospect and im certain he wouldnt let us down if he comes in far better than george long is really down to simon moore to up his game cos if he doesnt i dont think chris will be afraid to give rammy his chance as for the striker situation matty taylor at brizzle would be my shout like gregory but might just be a bit too similar to billy taylors would be an ideal partner for billy imo wether mr mcabe and the prince would splash 1.5 mill on him is debatable however
 
Pretty much agree with all of that...

I'm glad that some folks on here are now coming to realise that Done isn't a striker. Something I've argued for months. What's more, Done isn't much of a midfielder either I'm afraid. I can't see him staying beyond the end of this season - good luck to the lad and all that - but we have to be ruthless.

We need a proper striker up front as a priority I'd say. This person would preferably be over 6 foot and have some strength about him along with the ability to score goals. Billy isn't getting any younger -and anyhow, his best role has always been the support man, the poacher. We need someone who can lead the line. Unfortunately that isn't Lavery - although I do like him a lot and think he's fresh and adds something up front - but he's just not powerful enough. Clarke looks like he can't be bothered half the time and he's not going to get games or win admirers if he doesn't show a bit more than he has done so far. And it's not going to be McNulty either, because he's not that type of player either.

Next - we need a good centre half. I have said before that I am not in the EEL fan club. I think he's improved us - I really do, but only because we didn't have anyone at the time with that big physical presence in defence. We should go and get Byron Webster tomorrow from Millwall. He's not only a big centre half but he's a very experienced one too. That's what we miss in central defence. We've got two young lads in EEL and O'Connell. We need a more experienced head in there but not one as old and experienced as Jake Wright.

A pacy player would be good. Preferably a winger. Someone who can rip teams inside out and quickly. Because at times we are so slow at mounting an attack and are over complicating things with all the passing. We need to be able to break quick and wreak havoc. A bit like Jamie Murphy used to do. They get a corner, we leave him up near the half way line. The ball is cleared out to him and he runs 70 yards down towards the goal with it and no one is able to catch him before he dispatches it into the goal. We haven't got 1 player in the entire squad who could do that right now - and we need one - urgently. It would help transform the way we play.

Re goalie...I think Moore is dodgy tbh. I don't care how many wonderful acrobatic flying saves he's made or how many points he's saved us. That doesn't change anything. What you need in a goalkeeper is consistency. You need to be able to rely on him - and I'm sorry - we can't. It's not just about yesterday, but also the week before at Southend and I've also thought he should have got down quicker to save shots in other games before that. He's very well protected playing in this Sheffield United team that is clearly the best footballing team in the division. But when we are up against it, like yesterday, he didn't stand up to the test. In fact, he almost single-handedly lost us the game (with a huge helping hand from that lumbering flat-footed Mr T guy). Would I go out and buy another goalie now? I don't think I would tbh. But I'd consider giving Ramsdale a chance - if Wilder thinks he's ready? If not then I'd look to loan a more experienced goalkeeper in as cover for the next time Moore has a nightmare like he did yesterday. In the meantime, I'd cancel Long's contract and tell him to forget about a career in football altogether.


"...We need to be able to break quick and wreak havoc..."

Yep, this was really apparent yesterday. They packed in tight behind the ball (Walsall) and once they cleared it up field, had men with pace who our defenders had to try and rashly take down, because they couldn't catch them.

When we tried similar, we passed it a few too many times and allowed them to get back and defend.

Whatever players we are targeting, I hope they all have pace.
 
i agree on the goalkeeper situation rammy is a top prospect and im certain he wouldnt let us down if he comes in far better than george long is really down to simon moore to up his game cos if he doesnt i dont think chris will be afraid to give rammy his chance as for the striker situation matty taylor at brizzle would be my shout like gregory but might just be a bit too similar to billy taylors would be an ideal partner for billy imo wether mr mcabe and the prince would splash 1.5 mill on him is debatable however
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Think I would still be looking at James Vaughn, fur goals yesterday, 14 four the season, still in a team that is one loss from the relegation zone.
 

I think we need:

A LWB if he's going to get rid of Hussey. Looks like being Riley. Which conceivably also covers RWB if Freeman picks up an injury.

A CM is a similar vein to Coady. When we get into a scrap in the midfield, we struggle. We can move Basham up but then we lose pace from defence. If Coutts or Fleck should get a bad injury we've got no cover. It's a shame as I think Whiteman could have possibly done that job for us. At this stage, we should be looking at the loan market first.

A CF. I'd like to see us bring a loan striker in. Preferably tall and quick.

Given the nature of the loan window, I think we need to use all our allocation, just in case.
 
I think we need:

A LWB if he's going to get rid of Hussey. Looks like being Riley. Which conceivably also covers RWB if Freeman picks up an injury.

A CM is a similar vein to Coady. When we get into a scrap in the midfield, we struggle. We can move Basham up but then we lose pace from defence. If Coutts or Fleck should get a bad injury we've got no cover. It's a shame as I think Whiteman could have possibly done that job for us. At this stage, we should be looking at the loan market first.

A CF. I'd like to see us bring a loan striker in. Preferably tall and quick.

Given the nature of the loan window, I think we need to use all our allocation, just in case.

"...Preferably tall and quick. ..."

I think this is a "must have" Rob, because there is no height in any striker other than Clarke, and he rarely starts.
 
"...Preferably tall and quick. ..."

I think this is a "must have" Rob, because there is no height in any striker other than Clarke, and he rarely starts.

I agree, but then it leaves an issue with Clarke. If He's staying then you can't really bring in a similar striker ahead of him without completely pissing him off. Squad unity is just as important as new signings.
 
We need Carruthers to get fit.

We need a quality wide option - an attacking winger.

I'd like us to look for top quality loans but the problem there is there aren't too many places up for grabs in this team.

A lot depends on what's available. I wouldn't say no to a good centre half or centre forward.
 
I agree, but then it leaves an issue with Clarke. If He's staying then you can't really bring in a similar striker ahead of him without completely pissing him off. Squad unity is just as important as new signings.

Agree with that mate, but I would like to think that all the lads know that staying in an automatic place, and promotion, are the most important goals for the club/team
 
Agree with that mate, but I would like to think that all the lads know that staying in an automatic place, and promotion, are the most important goals for the club/team

You're basically saying, you're not really going to be playing so we can get up and then be sold. I think the best thing to do would be allow him to go and get first team football. No idea why he brought McNulty back, but the same can be said there.
 
You're basically saying, you're not really going to be playing so we can get up and then be sold. I think the best thing to do would be allow him to go and get first team football. No idea why he brought McNulty back, but the same can be said there.

Wilder has said himself, in interviews, that he is looking for a "forward player", so it won't come as a surprise to any of the strikers if someone is announced pal.

I agree with loaning out so people get first team football, but not to league rivals (which is why I was surprised about McNutz to Bradford)
 
I think that what we need is to CALM DOWN.
CW & co will know what we need and I trust him to get what United need. Yesterday's result may be the ammunition he needs to get support (£) from the board to strengthen where necessary.
what we need is another striker end of
 
Wilder has said himself, in interviews, that he is looking for a "forward player", so it won't come as a surprise to any of the strikers if someone is announced pal.

I agree with loaning out so people get first team football, but not to league rivals (which is why I was surprised about McNutz to Bradford)

Smart move by Wilder re McThingy. Cost Bradford in wages and set their season back weeks. Now if we could just persuade Scunny he's worth a punt...........;)
 
Ched, Morsy, Dan Burn....and bring back Porter too...not been on't pitch for ages!!!!
 

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