Roy's View From... West Brom Fans Views On Oliver Burke

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“Part of me really wishes someone could just stick a rocket up his arse...” he had better prepare himself. Wilder has a knack of doing that.
 

Who gives a fuck what Baggies fans think of him they might not be laughing when the see Robinson's next few month with them. Robbo started off ok here but slowly got less and less effective for us, he never showed the promised pace never seemed to have the energy to press defenders and was lightweight it was always "nearly" with Robbo.
Clean slate for Burke some clubs just don't work for some players every team has had a shit player who goes somewhere else and has a good career. Same has ever club buys what they think is a star only for them to turn out to be wank.
 
SwitchBLADE Smiles said:
“Never seen a footballer so perplexed by a bouncing ball. Like a toddler trying to catch a balloon.”

Looking forward to seeing this analogy in person 😂
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Never seen Conner sammon then. Showed the same ability every game
 
Well that's that then. He's totally shit and we've been had
 
Roygbiv said:
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West Brom Fans Views On Oliver Burke — The View From

“This surely has to be Burke’s last chance at a decent club, if Wilder doesn’t get through to him then he’s doomed.” “Burke must have talent - 23yo who’s played in Champ, Bundesliga, Champs League, Prem, La Liga & for Celtic/Scotland. Managed 20 games in La Liga last year, yet failed to nail down a
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Ouch be a huge slice of humble pie if he turns out to be decent personally I thinks it’s a decent swap considering we’ve got a bit of money from it too
 
In the past international week weve had "view froms" for Stevens, Egan, fleck, and mcgoldrick and they have all been universally bad including lot of calls for these players to be dropped from the team, but yet when they play for us they are fabulous, so it's not just managers and fans that have an influence on players performances its team set ups and tactics, so let's leave opinions of burke at least until the end of the season
 
Just watched one of those ‘montage’ type video things. My first thoughts, a stronger, faster, taller, Wayne Rooney.
 
The selling club have sniggered and joked about most of the players we've signed under Wilder, but I think its fair to say that if he turns this one around nobody will have to eat as much humble pie as these fans.
 
corner_flag said:
What an excellent 'View From' - almost unanimously negative. I hope I'm going to enjoy revisiting it again at the end of the season
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It's almost like Roygbiv went on the Wednesday forum and got their views by mistake, if that's the case it bodes well!
 
Any chance Roygbiv of a view from Forest fans as a, hopefully, more positive response!? I think its best to avoid any from Scotland, they must be the most critical fans I've ever heard!
 
Well. They seem to like him. I would compare this to the fleck Coventry view from but I actually think this is better. At least they understood what fleck was and were of the opinion that he wasn’t good enough at it. These lot can’t even say what type of player he is. Doesn’t bode well at all. 5! Different managers. If it was pace we needed we could have loaned zivkovic back.

This has all the makings for either ‘gone at Xmas’ or ‘player of the year nominee’

I will reserve judgement...
 

I have had a massive downer on Baggies since Megson (spit) was there. I asked a good mate for his view as a Baggies fan who is actually a decent bloke.
He confirmed the content from Roy’s View from.
I still hope Burke has enough about him to make those fans eat humble pie. The twats.

For a swap, with cash coming our way, we have already had their baggy pants down.
 
Doesn’t sound good on the evidence of the Baggy fans. CW failed with Morrison and Zivvy and Retsos didn’t work out. Let’s hope he can turn Burke around. Not confident.
 
Having briefly checked the Celtic forum. I would advise people not to seek their views. Less than complimentary

Let's hope CWAK can work their coaching magic
 
Charlieblade said:
I have had a massive downer on Baggies since Megson (spit) was there. I asked a good mate for his view as a Baggies fan who is actually a decent bloke.
He confirmed the content from Roy’s View from.
I still hope Burke has enough about him to make those fans eat humble pie. The twats.

For a swap, with cash coming our way, we have already had their baggy pants down.
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We have to remember that he only made about 20 appearances for West Brom in the 3 years he was there. How many of those were off the bench I've no idea, but let me put it another way, that's about half a season's worth of football that their views are based on - that's if they actually saw every game he played in? I can think of many players that have passed through our books who didn't impress much within their first 20 games. A classic one would be Ched Evans, who it took until his 3rd season under a new manager, Danny Wilson, to look like the real deal for us. Up until then he was a joke and we were wondering what on earth we'd bought.

The expectation/disappointment is higher if the player comes in on a big fee - as Burke did when he signed for WBA. It's not his fault how much his previous performances and experience commanded in the transfer market, but that straight away gives fans a huge expectation that he's going to be fantastic from day 1 and start running the show. Look no further than Sander Berge for an example of that.

The facts are, it takes time for most players to settle in. Some players really hit it off under a particular manager, even more players don't hit it off under a particular manager. I think that relationship is very important. Fortunately we've got a good manager and there's every chance he'll get an opportunity to shine for us.

Take a look at this clip of him again ripping Real Madrid's defenders a new one, last season..


I think if West Brom fans had seen him doing that on a regular basis they might have a different view? At the end of the day, I couldn't care less what they think of his past performances, I'm only interested in what he can do for us in the future.

In some ways I see this a bit like the signing of Marcus Bent. Bent was languishing in Port Vale's reserves when we bought him. I don't think many Blades fans were very excited by his arrival and I'm sure if there'd have been a "Roy's View From" back then, the Port Vale faithful would have called him all the names under the sun, lazy, useless, etc. But he was a revelation for us (in his first spell at least).

I'm optimistic about Oli Burke and it's going to be such fun watching him rip that Albion defence apart this coming season!
 
Stats and WBA opinion don't look the greatest, be it let's wait and see what happens when he's been through the magical CWAK gem polishing machine.
 
Yewsman said:
Doesn’t sound good on the evidence of the Baggy fans. CW failed with Morrison and Zivvy and Retsos didn’t work out. Let’s hope he can turn Burke around. Not confident.
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Quite a difference here though as none of those 'players particularly cost anything. I thing this would be more comparable to Freeman (L), Leonard or Holmes and if he turns out to be any good with Lundstram or Baldock. Jury's out as it is whenever we sign anybody until they show us otherwise.
McGrath said:
Having briefly checked the Celtic forum. I would advise people not to seek their views. Less than complimentary
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Yeah they also thing the proven EPL players Fleck and McBurnie are dugshite too. And just for good measure that Celtic would stroll the EPL.
 
He’s a useful option for us to break the press we struggled against teams who could stifle fleck and Berge/Lundtram and stop them carrying the ball at feet 20 yards or so through midfield before playing triangles to create the opportunity with overlapping players. Our second option to get up the pitch was Norwood playing long diagonals to a wingback pushed up but this isn’t a high percentage play in terms of retaining possession or creating chances. This lad gives Norwood a different option his pace and strength means if you can play a ball between the goalkeeper and defenders from deep he has a chance of winning it and breaking the press.
 
He’s guaranteed to score against WBA.

Also, I’m sad to see Robinson go. Not sure why he’s been moved on as I thought he looked promising and definitely one to develop. Being loaned at WBA and being prolific shows he’s currently at least a bottom half Prem top half Champ striker, but still, liked the lad a lot and he had a great attitude.

Good luck Robbo, and Burke, now’s your chance to shine. Take it.
 
Wilder has a great ability to spot players that still have some “headroom”. There can be umpteen circumstances that hold a player back and stall a promising career. Burke looks the type of player that doesn’t sit well in the limelight, and might be happy being reserved. What matters to us is his performances on the pitch. I knew an actor a few years back who was the quietest person you could meet. He was cast in the lead role to everyone’s amazement, but when he got up on that stage he was like Brian Blessed.
The reports say he’s looking for a home and a guiding hand. He doesn’t seem the cocky know it all, or disruptive type.
As long as he’s focused, keeps fit, is not a boozer and listens to what he’s been told, he’ll be alright.
If the fans can get behind him and not criticise every mistake in his first few games, a bit like Berge, I think he’ll become a bit of a cult player and a fans favourite. Sink or Swim time for Ollie. GLTTL.
 
ekke287 said:
Being loaned at WBA and being prolific shows he’s currently at least a bottom half Prem top half Champ striker, but still, liked the lad a lot and he had a great attitude.
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He scored 3 goals in 16 appearances for them, & I’ve seen a lot of Baggies saying that they reckon he’ll be a squad player for them this season.

I agree - I liked his attitude, but he was a terrible fit for us and I’m delighted that he’s gone.
 
Cerberus Blade said:
We have to remember that he only made about 20 appearances for West Brom in the 3 years he was there. How many of those were off the bench I've no idea, but let me put it another way, that's about half a season's worth of football that their views are based on - that's if they actually saw every game he played in? I can think of many players that have passed through our books who didn't impress much within their first 20 games. A classic one would be Ched Evans, who it took until his 3rd season under a new manager, Danny Wilson, to look like the real deal for us. Up until then he was a joke and we were wondering what on earth we'd bought.

The expectation/disappointment is higher if the player comes in on a big fee - as Burke did when he signed for WBA. It's not his fault how much his previous performances and experience commanded in the transfer market, but that straight away gives fans a huge expectation that he's going to be fantastic from day 1 and start running the show. Look no further than Sander Berge for an example of that.

The facts are, it takes time for most players to settle in. Some players really hit it off under a particular manager, even more players don't hit it off under a particular manager. I think that relationship is very important. Fortunately we've got a good manager and there's every chance he'll get an opportunity to shine for us.

Take a look at this clip of him again ripping Real Madrid's defenders a new one, last season..


I think if West Brom fans had seen him doing that on a regular basis they might have a different view? At the end of the day, I couldn't care less what they think of his past performances, I'm only interested in what he can do for us in the future.

In some ways I see this a bit like the signing of Marcus Bent. Bent was languishing in Port Vale's reserves when we bought him. I don't think many Blades fans were very excited by his arrival and I'm sure if there'd have been a "Roy's View From" back then, the Port Vale faithful would have called him all the names under the sun, lazy, useless, etc. But he was a revelation for us (in his first spell at least).

I'm optimistic about Oli Burke and it's going to be such fun watching him rip that Albion defence apart this coming season!
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I'm optimistic about Oli Burke and it's going to be such fun watching him rip that Albion defence apart this coming season!
Agreed. I think Wilder is the perfect foil to bring out the footballer in Burke. I hope they get the chance to prove it.
 
Thought I'd come on here as an Albion fan to let you know about Burke - but you seem to have found our opinions already.

For what it's worth, Ive Never seen an attitude problem from Burke and he clearly has the raw physical attributes to make it as a top level player. His pace meant he looked dangerous whenever he played. The problem is he also looked clueless.

When he was at Forest, the manager never played him in midweek games because he needed a full week to understand the tactics.

At Leipzig, they let him go because he just didn't seem to get what he was meant to do.

From what I've seen of him, he's never struck me as lazy - just really thick. He never seemed to understand where to run or who to track - he just looked.lost.

If Wilder can give him a really simple game plan that he can master - then you'll have a really useful player on your hands. But sadly, I think he lacks the intelligence (footballing or otherwise) to make it at the top level.
 
Baggie said:
Thought I'd come on here as an Albion fan to let you know about Burke - but you seem to have found our opinions already.

For what it's worth, Ive Never seen an attitude problem from Burke and he clearly has the raw physical attributes to make it as a top level player. His pace meant he looked dangerous whenever he played. The problem is he also looked clueless.

When he was at Forest, the manager never played him in midweek games because he needed a full week to understand the tactics.

At Leipzig, they let him go because he just didn't seem to get what he was meant to do.

From what I've seen of him, he's never struck me as lazy - just really thick. He never seemed to understand where to run or who to track - he just looked.lost.

If Wilder can give him a really simple game plan that he can master - then you'll have a really useful player on your hands. But sadly, I think he lacks the intelligence (footballing or otherwise) to make it at the top level.
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Maybe but Wilder and his staff do plenty of research. Osborn was at Forest for years so will know him, Fleck and McBurnie know him from the Scotland set up so I suspect if he was really as thick as he sounds they may have mentioned it.

Sorry about Robinson, he lacks the ability to be a top flight player.

Good luck for the season, apart from when you play us. We’ll both be hoping Villa go down.
 
It took until that last post above by BushBlade there to point out the two words I was thinking/looking for that I think will make Burke tick aside from the Wilder magic dust sprinkled on him... Ben and Osborn. Burke ticked at Forest when Osborn was also breaking through and was good mates with him, he'll be close to his roots as well so will feel more settled for it at last, really he shouldve carried on developing the season he began firing at Forest rather than being sold off to Leipzig literally in the blink of an eye, it just didnt suit him even though at the time he said moving to Leipzig would help him focus better away from the easy distractions at home.

So my verdict will be...it'll take time but CW will get him happy and playing in the system and unlocking that potential that just got stalled for a few years which in the long run could work out better as he couldve just become a burnt out shell having done it all too much too soon.
 

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