Well done Board

[Darthblade]

Why? I fucking despise them, despise their shitty ground, shitty fans, shitty players, chairman and board. I despise them from the top of my head to soles of my feet, and despise them more than it is possible to despise anything. They are vermin

Please accept 10,000 likes from me mate !!
UTB & FTPB

 

[Balham]

No chance in hell.

When was the last time a team from outside the top flight won it?

Do you really want to know the answer to that? Here's a clue: it was 1991.

 

[Darthblade]

If there is one thing that I have learnt watching football for so many years it's that things are cyclical and just when you think you are up, shit happens, and just as you are at your lowest point, something or someone gets you back on track.

Each Sheffield club has experienced extremes and will do again. Apart from a few exceptions it is harder than ever to be successful for long periods nowadays. I don't see them quite breaking into that elite group of untouchables for a while yet. Even if they go up, they are instant relegation fodder.

Fair play to them though, let them enjoy their semi final and perhaps even another cup win. We had our own recent cup highs under Clough and royally rubbed their noses in it after the Charlton episode. I expect the same from them now. We also beat 3 premier league teams and run another very close with a much worse team than they currently have , whilst they were praising their goalkeeper as their best player and creaming over clean sheets. Have we all forgotten 'Nilsborough'?

You could see them challenging for promotion now but if they lose a few it will be back to the Samaritans show on P or G.

All we can do is worry about us. We are close to having what we need to finally get out if this sh it hole league. Let's focus on that and getting behind our team.

"We are close to having what we need to finally get out if this sh it hole league"

Regrettably, I believe that the results, the performances and the lack of positive action from Board, Management and players would contradict your very optimistic outlook.

I would suggest that in the cold light of day we're looking down the barrel of 6 years in this agricultural Division that we have contrived to trap ourselves in !!
UTB & FTP

 

[Bebby]

No chance in hell.

When was the last time a team from outside the top flight won it?

1991. A team not a million miles from Bramall Lane won it.

 

[SouthportBlade]

Its very strange to read a lot of the comments on this thread. The fact of the matter at present Wednesday are in the league above us on a good run of form and they have an owner who has injected seemingly fairly significant funds into the first team.

To try and compare what Wednesday and ourselves have invested as a stick to beat the current board I just don't get? It literally has nothing to do with our board.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Its very strange to read a lot of the comments on this thread. The fact of the matter at present Wednesday are in the league above us on a good run of form and they have an owner who has injected seemingly fairly significant funds into the first team.

To try and compare what Wednesday and ourselves have invested as a stick to beat the current board I just don't get? It literally has nothing to do with our board.

It does a bit. Phipps has been reduced to posting on Facebook to try and get advice on how to run the football club. Well, get your shots and fuck off to Swillsborough for the afternoon to see how 'game changing investment' actually is done.

 

[Stretch]

As equally stupid as saying they haven't got a chance in hell just because it's them.

I'm not trying to big them up. Far from it. I hope they get smashed by whoever they play next.

But they've just comfortably beaten Arsenal at home, I'm not sure why they'd fear lesser teams such as Liverpool or Everton.

I can see Liverpool or Everton being much tougher to be honest Pete. Neither will take it lightly and field younger players. They will also have much more bite in their midfield and won't let the Pigs do them on the counter quite so easily.

Taking nothing away from them, they deserved to win but in all honesty Arsenal offered nothing last night. It reminded me very much or our game against Southampton to be honest.

 

[Bartleby]

Well, get your shots and fuck off to Swillsborough for the afternoon to see how 'game changing investment' actually is done.

including charging up to £48 now for tickets, would we be willing to pay that?

 

[JJ Sefton]

including charging up to £48 now for tickets, would we be willing to pay that?

That's what the Che Adams money will be earmarked for.

 

[Bartleby]

That's what the Che Adams money will be earmarked for.

well that's OK then, no way I'm paying an extra £30 a game to see him

 

[mattbianco1]

The pigs though have proved what you can get from proper investment and backing up your words with your actions.

It's not even that. We have had proper investment and it has been spunked up the wall on about 15 mediocre players as opposed to 4 or 5 good ones.

Cloughs signings last season the ones in BOLD aren't good enough:

Summer:

JCR
McNulty
Basham
Butler
Davies
Wallace J - Good enough. Just not fit
Alcock
McGahey - Youth player
Higdon
McEverley
Turner

January:
Adams
Wallace K
Freeman
Coutts
Brayford
Done

So of his 17 players signed last year - 8 aren't good enough (IMO).

In comparison

Adkins:

Woolford
Sharp
+ Loans - Sammon, Edgar & Hammond

Of Adkins' signings I would say Woolford is the questionable one.

The amount of money Clough wasted on shite players is ridiculous. You can see he changed his approach last January when he signed Done, Brayford and Coutts. Unfortunately his summer spending meant we weren't good enough.

 

[Revolution]

It's not even that. We have had proper investment and it has been spunked up the wall on about 15 mediocre players as opposed to 4 or 5 good ones.

Cloughs signings last season the ones in BOLD aren't good enough:

Summer:

JCR
McNulty
Basham
Butler
Davies
Wallace J - Good enough. Just not fit
Alcock
McGahey - Youth player
Higdon
McEverley
Turner

January:
Adams
Wallace K
Freeman
Coutts
Brayford
Done

So of his 17 players signed last year - 8 aren't good enough (IMO).

In comparison

Adkins:

Woolford
Sharp
+ Loans - Sammon, Edgar & Hammond

Of Adkins' signings I would say Woolford is the questionable one.

The amount of money Clough wasted on shite players is ridiculous. You can see he changed his approach last January when he signed Done, Brayford and Coutts. Unfortunately his summer spending meant we weren't good enough.

I think you are a little harsh on some of Clough's close season deals but the general point is bang on. You could have spent the same wages on 4 good players that summer.

 

[bladesmanluke]

We've blown great opputunities every season now for the last 9. It's nothing new and I don't expect it to change. We won't be in with a shout come January for this so called recruitment drive to push us forward in the new year. And do you know what? If by some miracle we are like 3rd and 4 points off the top two, we'll say we don't need to get anybody in.

 

[Rodders]

I think you are a little harsh on some of Clough's close season deals but the general point is bang on. You could have spent the same wages on 4 good players that summer.

Indeed, while it may have been Clough's decision to go elsewhere, the decision to not push out for Coady hit us hardest. No doubt £1.4m will get brought up now, bit I fail to believe they quoted us that figure then sold him a few weeks later for £400k.

 

[secretchief]

It's not even that. We have had proper investment and it has been spunked up the wall on about 15 mediocre players as opposed to 4 or 5 good ones.

Cloughs signings last season the ones in BOLD aren't good enough:

Summer:

JCR
McNulty
Basham
Butler
Davies
Wallace J - Good enough. Just not fit
Alcock
McGahey - Youth player
Higdon
McEverley
Turner

January:
Adams
Wallace K
Freeman
Coutts
Brayford
Done

So of his 17 players signed last year - 8 aren't good enough (IMO).

In comparison

Adkins:

Woolford
Sharp
+ Loans - Sammon, Edgar & Hammond

Of Adkins' signings I would say Woolford is the questionable one.

The amount of money Clough wasted on shite players is ridiculous. You can see he changed his approach last January when he signed Done, Brayford and Coutts. Unfortunately his summer spending meant we weren't good enough.

I agree with the gist, but at the moment about half of Adkins's signings can't even get into the first team - ahead of other players who, as you rightly say, are of questionable ability. So I don't know if it bodes well.

 

[mattbianco1]

I agree with the gist, but at the moment about half of Adkins's signings can't even get into the first team - ahead of other players who, as you rightly say, are of questionable ability. So I don't know if it bodes well.

Half?
Sharp is the 1st name on sheet.
Edgar is injured.
Hammond has started both games.
Sammon isn't playing as much now we have got Done back. So that leaves Woolford.

 

[secretchief]

Half?
Sharp is the 1st name on sheet.
Edgar is injured.
Hammond has started both games.
Sammon isn't playing as much now we have got Done back. So that leaves Woolford.

Well just for argument's sake.

Sharp is as you say the the first name on the team sheet.

Woolford isn't and shouldn't be anywhere near the first team. Sammon can't get a start and can't get ahead of Done or Adams. That's 40% right there (I did say 'about half').

Edgar is injured but his form dropped off badly for a few games before he got injured. I don't know whether he would be a guaranteed start or not.

Hammond has started both games, true. In the first one he was shown up by Paul Coutts, who is to all intents and purposes finished as a player!

 

[Bartleby]

Edgar is injured but his form dropped off badly for a few games before he got injured.

my understanding was he picked up an injury at the international break and then played those few games where his form had dropped while carrying that injury (which if true is a worry in itself that he played on)

 

[mattbianco1]

Well just for argument's sake.

Sharp is as you say the the first name on the team sheet.

Woolford isn't and shouldn't be anywhere near the first team. Sammon can't get a start and can't get ahead of Done or Adams. That's 40% right there (I did say 'about half').

Edgar is injured but his form dropped off badly for a few games before he got injured. I don't know whether he would be a guaranteed start or not.

Hammond has started both games, true. In the first one he was shown up by Paul Coutts, who is to all intents and purposes finished as a player!

I would drop Basham back to CB with Coutts and Hammond in together. With Baxter, Done & Adams infront.

Howard
Freeman Edgar Basham Wallace
Coutts Hammond
Done Baxter Adams
Sharp

Brayford and Harris to replace the full backs​

 

[secretchief]

I would drop Basham back to CB with Coutts and Hammond in together. With Baxter, Done & Adams infront.

Howard
Freeman Edgar Basham Wallace
Coutts Hammond
Done Baxter Adams
Sharp

Brayford and Harris to replace the full backs​

That wouldn't be far off my team except I would go 442 and play Done up front with JCR as a right winger replacing Coutts.

But even then I would only be playing Hammond out of blind faith, not because of anything he has done.

 

[Superblades]

I think Clough's summer signings were of a desperate one. He couldn't get the players he wanted which were Coady, Brayford & COG. So instead of waiting he panicked and bought shit.

 

[derryblade]

From what I can see Wednesday have invested about the same amount of money this season as the £13m our HRH has in the last 2 years. The difference is they've invested it in good players where as we have invested it in shit, injured, championship rejects that are only here to pick up a fat wage at the same time as us selling our best players periodically. That right there is a recipe for league one mediocrity. Will we learn from past mistakes? Do we ever?

The only way we're ever getting out of this league is if we learn to do it properly. That means saying NO when people come in for our players and it means signing our promotion rivals best players, because that's exactly what this big fucking flounce of a club should be doing in this tinpot league.

I would say how much has been spent by each club isn't the point more how well it has been spent. There can be no argument at present the games I have seen on Sky of our neighbours they have pace, quality and total commitment. We have a hell of a lot of work to do to catch up.

 

[Darthblade]

my understanding was he picked up an injury at the international break and then played those few games where his form had dropped while carrying that injury (which if true is a worry in itself that he played on)

I just hope that this rumour is true because it would explain why he suddenly dropped his standards before he was "reported " to be injured. if he wasn't carrying an injury then we're really in trouble ....
UTB & FTP

 

[Ted Danson]

For me the only signing Adkins has made whos performing is Sharp and I dont think thats a position we needed filling.

Hammond looks wank at the mo, hopefully hell get better, Edgar was good for what 1 or 2 games, I like the look of salmon but hes not getting any game time and Woolfords appalling.

So thats only 20% of his signings are any good and even that one wasn't what we really needed.

Im praying for some decent transfers in Jan but I know all that will really happen is a loan or 2 and Che out the door.

Is it down to Adkins bad signings or the board not releasing enough funds for good ones? I dont know but its not looking good

 

[BushBlade]

Indeed, while it may have been Clough's decision to go elsewhere, the decision to not push out for Coady hit us hardest. No doubt £1.4m will get brought up now, bit I fail to believe they quoted us that figure then sold him a few weeks later for £400k.

Tbh, I don't think the Coady deal was ever on. If you're the ex captain of the Liverpool youth team you don't expect to play in L1 for any length of time. I think his agent advised him to keep his options open and only consider us if he didn't get an offer from a club in a higher league.

 

[blader]

For me the only signing Adkins has made whos performing is Sharp and I dont think thats a position we needed filling

Eh? So you were happy with Higdon and McNulty as our only 2 'natural' strikers? Odd.

 

[Barney]

Eh? So you were happy with Higdon and McNulty as our only 2 'natural' strikers? Odd.

McNulty and Done would have been a great partnership in my opinion.

Striker definitely wasn't the main priority. The least in fact.

 

[Barney]

For me the only signing Adkins has made whos performing is Sharp and I dont think thats a position we needed filling.

Hammond looks wank at the mo, hopefully hell get better, Edgar was good for what 1 or 2 games, I like the look of salmon but hes not getting any game time and Woolfords appalling.

So thats only 20% of his signings are any good and even that one wasn't what we really needed.

Im praying for some decent transfers in Jan but I know all that will really happen is a loan or 2 and Che out the door.

Is it down to Adkins bad signings or the board not releasing enough funds for good ones? I dont know but its not looking good

The manager chooses the players, the board provide the funds.

Given that, it's strange that Adkins hasn't really been criticised.

He seems to have gotten away with it all.

 

[blader]

McNulty and Done would have been a great partnership in my opinion.

Striker definitely wasn't the main priority. The least in fact.

Still don't agree it 'wasn't a position we needed filling'.

Sharp is our top scorer and the 3rd top scorer in the league. Also, we were only about the 8th top scorers in the league, scoring 35 fewer than MK Dons. What many failed to recognise at the time (and still do) is that we needed a whole new 11, from back to front. Well, we did once we sold our only decent player anyway!

 

[PeteBlade]

Eh? So you were happy with Higdon and McNulty as our only 2 'natural' strikers? Odd.

I'm often confused when people say we didn't need to strengthen up front.
We couldn't buy a goal for most of last season.
This season we're scoring for fun.
If we can sort the back out we'll be flying.