We need a new coach

[FMBlade1]

Here's the profiles of the coaching staff we currently have at the club:

Training Ground Guru | Sheffield United staff profiles

DCL has attributed his development this season to the influence of Duncan Ferguson. We don't seem to have anyone like that at our club. In the past we had Chris Morgan as a coach who spent a fair bit of time mentoring Harry Maguire.

(Yes we have Sharp and Jagielka who I imagine could try to take on coaching responsibilities in the future though we need people now)

Wilder says that he cannot play the game for them and he is correct. However imagine if Burke asked him how to become a better striker what would he say and what could we offer?

I bet Duncan Ferguson would work wonders with Burke. The Aston Villa defence looks decent and they John Terry in their coaching squad, Ledley King is a coach at Spurs and so on.

I don't know about our training routine, however I could guess it might be becoming stale and unproductive judging by the team's performances. I don't mean to be unkind but Knill etc. don't have any Premier League pedigree.

So if I had to stick my neck out I'd gently suggest looking at the following:

The strikers: Andy Cole/ Harry Kewell
The midfield: Owen Hargreaves/ Gareth Barry/ Tim Cahill
Defence: Matthew Upson/Lucas Neil/Gary Neville (struggling most with this one to be honest)
(Goalkeeper: Jussi Jääskeläinen )

All the above have successful Premier League experience as well as being respected and have contacts in the game. They also will be able to offer something different and perhaps fresh ideas to our set up. And yes it would be good if they could challenge Wilder on occasion.

Probably easy to rip into the above suggestions and I admit it's tricky but before you do, do suggest any alternatives

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Another thing, Matt Prestidge rightly received praise for our fitness up until March, what the hell has happened to that since then? Also I'm not sure to what extent Darren Ward can be held responsible for Ramsdale's performances, particularly in learning how to catch a ball?

 

[Stevo]

It would appear we have dean Hammond as midfield coach and Connor salmon in charge of up top........I've heard the goalkeeping coach is a Mr s wonder

 

[DronnieBlade]

This has been picked up by me b4 times many.

We are dreadful at selecting players for the top of the pitch. Dreadful.

They don’t hit the ground running.

They don’t develop.

So the obvious question is why ?

You hit on something that, to me at least, is a glaring deficiency of our club.

UTB

 

[BladeInIreland]

Another thing, Matt Prestidge rightly received praise for our fitness up until March, what the hell has happened to that since then?

Covid? Lockdowns? Spells out of the game all together then hugely congested fixtures across two seasons. We didn't stand a chance.

Also I wouldn't be against some of these experienced heads coaching but I think our problems are a bit deeper than that. John Terry wouldn't turn jack Robinson into an overlapping centre back. Alan shearer wouldn't fix the lack of consistent service our forwards need. Ramsdale could definitely benefit from some more mentoring.

 

[A Storm of Blades]

Here's the profiles of the coaching staff we currently have at the club:

Training Ground Guru | Sheffield United staff profiles

DCL has attributed his development this season to the influence of Duncan Ferguson. We don't seem to have anyone like that at our club. In the past we had Chris Morgan as a coach who spent a fair bit of time mentoring Harry Maguire.

(Yes we have Sharp and Jagielka who I imagine could try to take on coaching responsibilities in the future though we need people now)

Wilder says that he cannot play the game for them and he is correct. However imagine if Burke asked him how to become a better striker what would he say and what could we offer?

I bet Duncan Ferguson would work wonders with Burke. The Aston Villa defence looks decent and they John Terry in their coaching squad, Ledley King is a coach at Spurs and so on.

I don't know about our training routine, however I could guess it might be becoming stale and unproductive judging by the team's performances. I don't mean to be unkind but Knill etc. don't have any Premier League pedigree.

So if I had to stick my neck out I'd gently suggest looking at the following:

The strikers: Andy Cole/ Harry Kewell
The midfield: Owen Hargreaves/ Gareth Barry/ Tim Cahill
Defence: Matthew Upson/Lucas Neil/Gary Neville (struggling most with this one to be honest)
(Goalkeeper: Jussi Jääskeläinen )

All the above have successful Premier League experience as well as being respected and have contacts in the game. They also will be able to offer something different and perhaps fresh ideas to our set up. And yes it would be good if they could challenge Wilder on occasion.

Probably easy to rip into the above suggestions and I admit it's tricky but before you do, do suggest any alternatives

---

Another thing, Matt Prestidge rightly received praise for our fitness up until March, what the hell has happened to that since then? Also I'm not sure to what extent Darren Ward can be held responsible for Ramsdale's performances, particularly in learning how to catch a ball?

A good point is that.

 

[Balham]

This has been picked up by me b4 times many.

We are dreadful at selecting players for the top of the pitch. Dreadful.

They don’t hit the ground running.

They don’t develop.

So the obvious question is why ?

You hit on something that, to me at least, is a glaring deficiency of our club.

UTB

The striker issues are at least equally to do with the vertical structure of our team as they are to do with the players themselves. We starve the forwards of the ball, ask them to spend most of their energy closing down wide passing channels then expect them to bury the one chance they might get each game. Until we sort the tactics out we can't fairly judge the forwards.

The 3-5-2 has been dying since Leicester at home last season. Brendan Rogers might be a cocky little bastard but he's one of the best in the league at identifying opposition weaknesses. Wilder has therefore had over a year's warning that "the system" needs to evolve and he's not, as yet, done anything about it.

 

[DronnieBlade]

The striker issues are at least equally to do with the vertical structure of our team as they are to do with the players themselves. We starve the forwards of the ball, ask them to spend most of their energy closing down wide passing channels then expect them to bury the one chance they might get each game. Until we sort the tactics out we can't fairly judge the forwards.

The 3-5-2 has been dying since Leicester at home last season. Brendan Rogers might be a cocky little bastard but he's one of the best in the league at identifying opposition weaknesses. Wilder has therefore had over a year's warning that "the system" needs to evolve and he's not, as yet, done anything about it.

3:5:2 when on the front foot is categorically not the issue.

Our turnover of possession at this level, an issue identified by some (can’t remember who) and FINALLY acknowledged in the gaffers post match yesterday, most certainly is.

It is as clear as day that some of our players seriously struggle to retain possession of the ball and / or work hard enough to win it back. The reason is that they DO NOT have the individual tools to do so, never did have and yet we have paid serious money for their services.

It’s a Shyte state of affairs !!!

UTB

 

[FMBlade1]

The striker issues are at least equally to do with the vertical structure of our team as they are to do with the players themselves. We starve the forwards of the ball, ask them to spend most of their energy closing down wide passing channels then expect them to bury the one chance they might get each game. Until we sort the tactics out we can't fairly judge the forwards.

The 3-5-2 has been dying since Leicester at home last season. Brendan Rogers might be a cocky little bastard but he's one of the best in the league at identifying opposition weaknesses. Wilder has therefore had over a year's warning that "the system" needs to evolve and he's not, as yet, done anything about it.

Tactically outdone | S24SU Forum | Sheffield United Community

ABSOLUTELY ^^^^

 

[john Mathison]

Who on earth would want to come to us as a coach????? We are as good as relegated, would you want that on your management CV?????

 

[FMBlade1]

Who on earth would want to come to us as a coach????? We are as good as relegated, would you want that on your management CV?????

There's an economic downturn, people need jobs and to forge a career.

There would be nothing to lose by coming to us as no-one would attach any blame on them if we went down. If we didn't they would probably be in line for any championship job they wanted next year.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

Sure do

 

[FMBlade1]

Also I wouldn't be against some of these experienced heads coaching but I think our problems are a bit deeper than that. John Terry wouldn't turn jack Robinson into an overlapping centre back. Alan shearer wouldn't fix the lack of consistent service our forwards need. Ramsdale could definitely benefit from some more mentoring.

Agreed, but every little helps, especially in a game with small margins.

This also wouldn't involve costing the club a huge amount of money, though Wilder would have to swallow some pride and be prepared to listen to people who challenge him which might be a price too much for him.

 

[Wincobank S9 Blade]

I think we need to probably improve our recruitment team

 

[FMBlade1]

I think we need to probably improve our recruitment team

Agreed, have been saying for years that we needed enhanced international scouting to go beyond Dover.

It's through that you get better players, and better coaches

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

The striker issues are at least equally to do with the vertical structure of our team as they are to do with the players themselves. We starve the forwards of the ball, ask them to spend most of their energy closing down wide passing channels then expect them to bury the one chance they might get each game. Until we sort the tactics out we can't fairly judge the forwards.

The 3-5-2 has been dying since Leicester at home last season. Brendan Rogers might be a cocky little bastard but he's one of the best in the league at identifying opposition weaknesses. Wilder has therefore had over a year's warning that "the system" needs to evolve and he's not, as yet, done anything about it.

Perhaps he doesn't know how to?

 

[FMBlade1]

Perhaps he doesn't know how to?

No shame in needing help.

There is shame in refusing help or refusing to search for help when you need help.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Who on earth would want to come to us as a coach????? We are as good as relegated, would you want that on your management CV?????

Agree it would need to be someone quite desperate or a hungry lower league manager with something to prove.

Sacking Wilder is quite obvious however it’s getting to a stage where it’s too late....so logic would then suggest we stick with Wilder.
Another issue is we could approach this like Norwich did when they look dead and buried.
They accepted that they were already down and decided that Farke was the best man to regain promotion.

Wouldn’t surprise me if we stick with Wilder and see how he starts in the Championship.

 

[Swinton Blade]

The strikers: Andy Cole/ Harry Kewell
The midfield: Owen Hargreaves/ Gareth Barry/ Tim Cahill
Defence: Matthew Upson/Lucas Neil/Gary Neville (struggling most with this one to be honest)
(Goalkeeper: Jussi Jääskeläinen )

Good points and a good read but hasn't Harry Kewell got a job?

And I think I read somewhere that Neville doesnt want another coaching job.

 

[FMBlade1]

Good points and a good read but hasn't Harry Kewell got a job?

And I think I read somewhere that Neville doesnt want another coaching job.

Ah whoops you're right, he's manager of Oldham didn't realize thought he was out of work still.

Lucas Neil is bankrupt on the hand so needs anything you would imagine!

Mind you looking at our midfield tempting Gareth Barry out of retirement might be an idea....

Really struggling to think of good defenders who we could have as coaches though... maybe Jake Wright?!

 

[Keef Chedwyn]

Shoutboxers could pool their football knowledge to add to the coaching set up.

 

[Swinton Blade]

Ah whoops you're right, he's manager of Oldham didn't realize thought he was out of work still.

Lucas Neil is bankrupt on the hand so needs anything you would imagine!

Mind you looking at our midfield tempting Gareth Barry out of retirement might be an idea....

Really struggling to think of good defenders who we could have as coaches though... maybe Jake Wright?!

Well Villa have Terry, we could get Rio or Sol.

 

[FMBlade1]

Well Villa have Terry, we could get Rio or Sol.

Did look at what Rio was up to, seems well settled into the family life at present.

Not against Sol Campbell though I guess he would want to be a manager in his own right?

 

[SteveBlade]

Shoutboxers could pool their football knowledge to add to the coaching set up.

I nominate s4-blade. He knows his stuff.

 

[FMBlade1]

I nominate s4-blade. He knows his stuff.

Bergen Blade is my nomination if it has to be a poster from here

 

[Harry's Game]

 

[Yogi]

Here's the profiles of the coaching staff we currently have at the club:

Training Ground Guru | Sheffield United staff profiles

DCL has attributed his development this season to the influence of Duncan Ferguson. We don't seem to have anyone like that at our club. In the past we had Chris Morgan as a coach who spent a fair bit of time mentoring Harry Maguire.

(Yes we have Sharp and Jagielka who I imagine could try to take on coaching responsibilities in the future though we need people now)

Wilder says that he cannot play the game for them and he is correct. However imagine if Burke asked him how to become a better striker what would he say and what could we offer?

I bet Duncan Ferguson would work wonders with Burke. The Aston Villa defence looks decent and they John Terry in their coaching squad, Ledley King is a coach at Spurs and so on.

I don't know about our training routine, however I could guess it might be becoming stale and unproductive judging by the team's performances. I don't mean to be unkind but Knill etc. don't have any Premier League pedigree.

So if I had to stick my neck out I'd gently suggest looking at the following:

The strikers: Andy Cole/ Harry Kewell
The midfield: Owen Hargreaves/ Gareth Barry/ Tim Cahill
Defence: Matthew Upson/Lucas Neil/Gary Neville (struggling most with this one to be honest)
(Goalkeeper: Jussi Jääskeläinen )

All the above have successful Premier League experience as well as being respected and have contacts in the game. They also will be able to offer something different and perhaps fresh ideas to our set up. And yes it would be good if they could challenge Wilder on occasion.

Probably easy to rip into the above suggestions and I admit it's tricky but before you do, do suggest any alternatives

---

Another thing, Matt Prestidge rightly received praise for our fitness up until March, what the hell has happened to that since then? Also I'm not sure to what extent Darren Ward can be held responsible for Ramsdale's performances, particularly in learning how to catch a ball?

This I agree with I believe when Brian Deane first came back from Norway it was put about he was doing something like this in the academy but I’d image he isn’t anymore. The one I’d be interested in should he hang his boots up would be Defoe. He won’t get a managerial job straight off the bat ala Rooney but has been a great striker at the top level for so long. The issue is punditry jobs are far more lucrative for these types of former pros now.

 

[Houston_Blade]

3:5:2 when on the front foot is categorically not the issue.

Our turnover of possession at this level, an issue identified by some (can’t remember who) and FINALLY acknowledged in the gaffers post match yesterday, most certainly is.

It is as clear as day that some of our players seriously struggle to retain possession of the ball and / or work hard enough to win it back. The reason is that they DO NOT have the individual tools to do so, never did have and yet we have paid serious money for their services.

It’s a Shyte state of affairs !!!

UTB

In Wilder’s defence ‘turning over possession easily’ is up there with ‘toe to toe’ and ‘out the back door’ on CW interview bingo. He’s always said that we aren’t very good at it. It just doesn’t seem to have been addressed.

 

[Mendi]

Would anyone take Mark Hughes?

 

[Keef Chedwyn]

I nominate s4-blade. He knows his stuff.

That's what I really meant but thought man had taken enough in the box.

 

[Swinton Blade]

Did look at what Rio was up to, seems well settled into the family life at present.

Not against Sol Campbell though I guess he would want to be a manager in his own right?

Maybe your right about Sol but surely being a coach now would be better for his profile to get a managers job somewhere else.

Right now not many clubs will be looking at him for their hot seat.