Was our second offside?

[Champagneblade]

This crossed my mind too.

He's deffo offside.

Thing is you don't know how games will pan out but the impression I was getting from the team was they were gonna keep pushing for a goal and we were mostly on top till then 2nd half. Watching us last night I had more confidence we would create some chances and whilst we didn't create loads, we looked alot brighter than last Sat.

Having won 2-1 with a slightly dubious goal, it would be worth reminding the bleating Sunderland fans thar the alternative is that they play for 60 minutes with 10 men.

I'm confident that the result would have been similar if we had an hour 11 v 10.

End of the day, they can't have it both ways either. You lose the goal but you also lose the man.

 

[Klaatu Barada Nikto]

Having won 2-1 with a slightly dubious goal, it would be worth reminding the bleating Sunderland fans thar the alternative is that they play for 60 minutes with 10 men.

I'm confident that the result would have been similar if we had an hour 11 v 10.

End of the day, they can't have it both ways either. You lose the goal but you also lose the man.

Well you can if the refs are shit

 

[247Blade]

Well was it offside or not?

Here's the appropriate part of the offside law.

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Who cares we've had some shocking decisions go against us ... suck it up!

 

[ChrisBlade]

Who cares we've had some shocking decisions go against us ... suck it up!

For me, games like this are the real litmus test for or against VAR. Overall, we did extremely poorly out of VAR in the Prem. We were Guinea pigs for three or four things only ever given once that season - against us - that afterwards triggered fine tuning.

Without going into too many details, Spurs away und City away sealed it for me. Brilliant celebrations wiped out, at Spurs for an infringement even an over-detailing mind could not figure out while at the ground.

I think this season, by and large, VAR would have benefited us. But I don’t care, I much prefer football without. Instant and unworried joy tops a jaundiced and still slightly arbitrary idea of justice that removes certain clearly wrong calls but ultimately still leaves tons of interpretation issues and a sense of favouritism.

Also, so many good games are changed by it. This one is an example. Two even teams go at it toe to toe. There is controversy and a ref that gets lots wrong, in sum maybe favouring us for once. But one thing the game will be for all fans is memorable.

With VAR, firstly, it would be truncated. The sending off obviously changes the match into a completely different attack vs defence borefest. Hand pen Berge? Push pen Anel? Shirt removal pen Egan? Offside goal? Red card Norwood? Scan the scrimmage Post Jebbo for any raised hands?

VAR would turn a great battling match stop start and ruin it. Outcome likely similar based on timing of events. End of match ten minutes ago.

Customer satisfaction and entertainment vastly reduced. Then imagine for a second that they conclude Berge did no interfere…

A sense of cheating would still be lingering.

I will never like VAR for as long as I watch football in stadia and with love and passion.

CL and world cups, fine. Only an intellectual side interest, so the fiddly interruption isn’t as personal.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Yes.

Yes it was .

UTB

 

[Weasel]

Why are you on page 3 of a thread about something you don’t “give a rats fuck” about?

Cos I didn't. I was just telling the othe poster that he should perhaps just enjoy the winning feeling at the time he posted straight after the match. I didn't care that it was offside then and I don't care that it was offside now either.

That ok with you sunshine? You strange person.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

I think Sky have the biggest shower of useless cunts commentating, ever seen anywhere. Allowing that useless cunt to deride us week after week, the fucking pieces of shit.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

In answer to the question, I fucking hope so.
Fuck Don Goodman.

 

[Sheff de party]

Cos I didn't. I was just telling the othe poster that he should perhaps just enjoy the winning feeling at the time he posted straight after the match. I didn't care that it was offside then and I don't care that it was offside now either.

That ok with you sunshine? You strange person.

Ah ok cool.

OP starts a thread about a major talking point of our last match.

You go off on one asking why he should care when you don’t. You keep on about not caring, but keep getting involved in said thread.

But I’m strange. Got it

 

[Weasel]

Ah ok cool.

OP starts a thread about a major talking point of our last match.

You go off on one asking why he should care when you don’t. You keep on about not caring, but keep getting involved in said thread.

But I’m strange. Got it

'you go off on one...'

did I? I asked the original poster why he should care so much about something at 2 mins after FT. He answered, I moved on. Their choice.

'You keep on about not caring, but keep getting involved in said thread...'

yep, I don't care that it was offside. Not interested in the slightest. As far keep getting involved on this thread, then that's only because I was replying to some fool on here who directly asked me a Q. I won't be giving any more of my time (cos seemingly you have nothing of interest to say) or courtesy again with said fool. So you wonder off and 'be cool' with the gang. Toodle pip sunshine.

 

[Rochdaleblade]

Any one make sense of this decision?

 

[Steelcitysenior]

Think Berge was offside, did he interfere with play, maybe.
Did we score a goal at Villa that wasn't given? Did Liverpool get a penalty at the Lane when we tried to foul Gerard? We have had enough shit in the past, about time for a bit of luck.UTB.

 

[Le Cynique]

The very fact that there’s so much debate about this illustrates why the current offside rules are not fit for purpose.

Either change it so if anyone is in a position beyond the last defender, they’re deemed to be offside, or get rid of the rule completely and go back to the days of boglining. There’s no reason at all why it has to be so fucking complicated. As it is, we benefited from the complexity this time, which I have no problem with whatsoever as we’ve been on the other side of the decision plenty of times.

 

[Klaatu Barada Nikto]

The very fact that there’s so much debate about this illustrates why the current offside rules are not fit for purpose.

Either change it so if anyone is in a position beyond the last defender, they’re deemed to be offside, or get rid of the rule completely and go back to the days of boglining. There’s no reason at all why it has to be so fucking complicated. As it is, we benefited from the complexity this time, which I have no problem with whatsoever as we’ve been on the other side of the decision plenty of times.

Chief problem as I see it now, is that the top levels will demand ever more complexity to the offside rule, which they can do because they've got VAR to double check it. Meanwhile some poor twat running the line at a Sunday league game has to memorise two pages and apply them all in a split second.

 

[Le Cynique]

Chief problem as I see it now, is that the top levels will demand ever more complexity to the offside rule, which they can do because they've got VAR to double check it. Meanwhile some poor twat running the line at a Sunday league game has to memorise two pages and apply them all in a split second.

As much as I hate the idea that over regulation is killing the game, this is a clear example of it. Keep it simple, and everyone will enjoy it more.