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grafikhaus said:
They'll be OK if they get a manager with experience of a relegation battle. Coleman has never impressed me - his Wales 'success' was due to a great squad coming together at the right time. Whoever is their manager, his priority is to clear out all the has-beens on big wages (think Wednesday). Also, don't forget that they got £100m as a reward for finishing rock-bottom of the PL last season so can buy their way out of trouble.





Grabban is a Bournemouth player on loan to Sunderland. He's by far their most effective player (12 goals so far this season) and I was pleased he wasn't in the line-up.
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Yeah, that's what I was saying... Could be recalled due to them being in the shit.
 




Monsieur Salut writes: Pete Sixsmith is making his return to post-Santa duties in a gradual sort of way, a Sixer’s Seven here, that smashing series on The First Time Ever I Saw Ground/Team there. I could hardly decline his invitation to step in with the Soapbox from Bramall Lane, painful as it is to write anything about what happened there on Boxing Day …

Anyone who has supported Sunderland home and away, even if their opportunities are limited, knows the wretched feelings of embarrassment inflicted by truly awful displays. When it’s away from home, the embarrassment is made all the more acute if snatched conversations between opposing supporters are overheard.

“Just coming away from the match,” said one man into his mobile phone as people made their way back towards Sheffield city centre. He added almost as an afterthought: “We won 3-0 but mind, the other team were absolute rubbish.”

I could only murmur my agreement with his assessment, which I’d fault only on the basis that he was being unnecessartily charitable. In truth, I felt little better than I had done walking away from St Mary’s Stadium (8-0) or the Liberty at Swansea (4-0). Absolute rubbish seems an inadequate description for a performance that suggested random breathalyser tests should be introduced in Sunderland dressing rooms.

The day wasn’t all bad. I saw Sixer for the first time in many months. Having parked at the soulless but functional Meadowhall mall, I had an acceptable meal at Carluccio’s before heading off on the tram and finding that the old git’s freedom pass that gets me around London also works in Sheffield. That’s the positives out of the way.

It was plain virtually from the start that we were up against a far better side. The first part of the game was played exclusively in our half. There weren’t any clear cut chances but United looked menacing every time they mounted an attack, all the more if – as was usually the case – the outstanding Mark Suffy had the ball. Oh for a midfielder who has all the industry of ours and all the vision and invention they lack.

Pete was right to point out that our players couldn’t really be faulted on effort. They just weren’t – aren’t – good enough. Our approach was negative, stop-start and ineffectual. How many interesting ways are there to lose possession, misplace passes, give away dangerous free kicks, fail to defend crosses? We found most of them. We were outmuscled and much as outclassed.

At half-time, with Sunderland just one down though deservedly to a cool finish from by John Lundstram, I wondered whether attacking the end housing our supporters might inspire the team to produce some sort of response. Pete counted our spell of modest pressure as lasting just over three minutes. When it ended and United regained control with what seemed a minimum of effort, I glanced at Chris Coleman, inanimate in the technical area when change seemed necessary, and said it already felt more like a 3-0 defeat than 1-0.

Seconds later, another needlessly conceded free kick just outside the area was swept across goal by Duffy and headed in Richard Stearman. The third, another header from another poorly defended cross, was inevitable and more seemed entirely likely.

When they checked their ratings on the Sunderland Echo site, the players will have seen nine threes out of 10, one four (a generous mark for Gibson) and one five (Ruiter, probably about right). United had been stronger in every position and 3-0 was about as lenient as it could be. Pete provided those around us with score updates from other strugglers, checked the effect it all had on the bottom bit of the table and wondered whether fourth bottom was the best we could seriously aim for.

And meanwhile, our United “Who are You?” interviewee, Dave Eyre, who had actually predicted we’d score two goals while conceding four (we didn’t have a single shot on goal and one especially atrocious effort, from McGeady, resulted in a United throw-in some yards from the corner flag), kindly said our fans were entitled to rather better than this meek and shambolic surrender.

“The consensus was the Sunderland were one of the poorer sides to visit this season,” he wrote. “A number of people have said the same thing around me – season ticket holders all. This was that the Sunderland supporters have shown a lot of character and deserve a lot better than they are currently being served. The team will chase and chase and for some unknown reason – stop … I suspect that Coleman will be there for a while and he may indeed be able to sort them.

“I also think it may be a while.”

Here endeth the lesson. Sixer’s back on his Soapbox from Forest, where another showing like this will lead to another heavy defeat.

 
Davalon said:
Don't like generalising but always found Sunlan fans to be more deluded than the Pigs.

Arrogant and short memories.

Like the Toon they've forgotten their crowds of 20k and below from the 80s/90s.

Who else went to Roker on here with over 3k Blades in 1991 in a crowd of about 18k in the top flight?
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Hodges head butt games,yes
 
The poorest team we have seen at the Lane this season, without a doubt, even words like "woeful" and "dreadful" don't come close to how bad they are.
 
Borbokisfreekick said:
Yeah, they’ve won significantly more than us including 6 league titles (only bettered by 5 other clubs in England), they have a much bigger ground, bigger fan base, have only spent 1 season out of the top two divisions and have spent more years in the top flight than us.
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Anyone is going to have a big fan Base with 3 teams sharing a 40 mile radius of villages and towns.

They've definitely won more, but not sure that their league title wins spanning from the 1890s and ending in the 1930s has much of a bearing on their stature in 2017.

Just like United, they've won all but nowt (FA cup 73 win apart). Beyond that they've just managed to exist in the Premier League a lot longer than we have. Up until around 2007 both clubs were enjoying the same amount of scant success, that period has finished and it looks like the two clubs are going in opposite directions.
 
sitwell said:
Was informed after that Cattermole is on 80 k week and isn't the highest paid.
1st prize to who tells me who it is.
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didier ndong i think, he's their most expensive transfer
 
metalblade said:
I always thought the Sunderland fans were better than such comments, gone down in my estimation after reading that. WTF was Coleman thinking leaving the Wales job he must be one money grabbing bastard there is nothing worth a wank in that team, the worst at the lane all season by some margin so far. Still seems like they will fall further before the deluded among their fans acknowledge they are shite, a way to go yet before they hit rock bottom. One shot all game and that went out for a throw in, Sunderland might do better if their players don't constantly throw themselves on the floor, pull shirts and generally play the man rather than the ball. I think the referee did everything he could to help them today but still they were utterly dreadful. League One I'm afraid unless they change the majority of that team in January.
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i'll admit even though we put 8 (even though only 4 counted) past port vale last year at the lane even they tried for about 10 minutes of the game, a team relegated to League 2 put up more fight than sunderland
 
We all agree, they were poor, the worst seen at the lane in a long time, however if you dont try, put some effort in then whatever ability you have has no chance of coming through, the person I would be most angry with if I was a Sunderland fan would be the manager coleman, its his job from the sidelines to start yelling and having a go at the players, imagine if wilder had come during the adkins season, would you have seen him standing there just watching, no chance, they may well have lost, by even more possibly but they would have come off the pitch knackered, the Sunderland players didn't need a shower after the game, I know we dont need reminding of it but its after watching Coleman I appreciate Wilder and Knill just a little bit more
 
Still baffles me why Coleman came to Sunderland with a shit squad and no funds, must of been a good offer, but the best team won and that is Sunderland, no two games are the same, we will probably stuff Forrest 6 - 0.
 



Their #9 Vaughn is it? what a fookin donkey he looked, he has to be their Conor Sammon.
 
Davalon said:
Don't like generalising but always found Sunlan fans to be more deluded than the Pigs.

Arrogant and short memories.

Like the Toon they've forgotten their crowds of 20k and below from the 80s/90s.

Who else went to Roker on here with over 3k Blades in 1991 in a crowd of about 18k in the top flight?
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I was there, and I think there were around 5,500 Blades there that day. We were allocated both corner terrace areas given the demand as we were on a five match win streak.
 
Alanfallon said:
Still baffles me why Coleman came to Sunderland with a shit squad and no funds, must of been a good offer, but the best team won and that is Sunderland, no two games are the same, we will probably stuff Forrest 6 - 0.
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Doubled or tripled his salary (can't remember which)
 
metade said:
Their #9 Vaughn is it? what a fookin donkey he looked, he has to be their Conor Sammon.
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I guess you were weren't around last season to see him score 20 plus for Bury and he was a handful home and away against us last season Sunderland are not getting the best out of him
 
adebo said:
I guess you were weren't around last season to see him score 20 plus for Bury and he was a handful home and away against us last season Sunderland are not getting the best out of him
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Looked overweight to me and all he seemed interested in was pulling and pushing defenders at every opportunity. League one may well be his standard although that said he was pretty much isolated up front for them.
 
Alanfallon said:
Still baffles me why Coleman came to Sunderland with a shit squad and no funds, must of been a good offer, but the best team won and that is Sunderland, no two games are the same, we will probably stuff Forrest 6 - 0.
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Resented getting paid relatively fuck all with Wales so jumped at a big offer.
 
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