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Bruce Wayne

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Time to abolish it and the shithouses that make it run so awful. It's killing the game.

Football has existed for way over a century and done pretty well. The odd error from the ref pales into insignificance to this abortion is having on the game.
 

Time to abolish it and the shithouses that make it run so awful. It's killing the game.

Football has existed for way over a century and done pretty well. The odd error from the ref pales into insignificance to this abortion is having on the game.
Was really hopeful that it would be a benefit for the game. I’m totally disillusioned with it now
 
I was excited to see VAR in action as I really thought it could benefit the game. Truth is the Premier League has totally fucking murdered it.

The officials don’t know how to work with it, the players don’t know how to play with it, the fans have no fucking idea what’s going on, the pundits are just making shit up because they are in the same boat and the people who have implemented genuinely think they have done a good job with it.

Mike Riley wants sectioning if he thinks VAR has been a success.
 
Breaking new ground with this thing every week. Has any other side in the league had such an interesting/ridiculous time of it? We must be the most VAR affected club in the league, for bad and good after the Bash decision just now.
Tottenham ridiculous offside.
Jota penalty check when he's miles offside.
Shelvey goal.
Lundstram/Basham goal/pen/offside threeway
Basham red rescinded.

What next?
 
Breaking new ground with this thing every week. Has any other side in the league had such an interesting/ridiculous time of it? We must be the most VAR affected club in the league, for bad and good after the Bash decision just now.
Tottenham ridiculous offside.
Jota penalty check when he's miles offside.
Shelvey goal.
Lundstram/Basham goal/pen/offside threeway
Basham red rescinded.

What next?

Scrap the fuckin thing, please.
 
100% stonewall pen on bash, cant see how you could award anything else

I thought he would give it, but Bash moved his left leg towards the Norwich player. So I think the VAR ref probably thought he was looking for it and therefore not enough to overturn it.
 
100% stonewall pen on bash, cant see how you could award anything else
that was a nuts decision.

using the mdem term, lunny is nly active once bash has been bundled to the flor, but they even seem t have considered the pen. its wierd
 
Much as it seems like it, it isn't us v VAR really, it is everyone v VAR. It is crap & I cannot go down the road of thinking it is singling us out for treatment because that would be huge & blow my mind. Just not fit for purpose, okay we may have benefited re Bash but it wasn't a red card offence in the first place, no way, but how we didn't get a penalty I don't know.
 
Today, I thought it got the red card bang on, the pen could have been given, is it clever from bash? Clumsy from hernandez? Was it enough to overturn the on field decision? Would we have accepted it given against us? All maybe. But the overriding thing is the time it takes. Absolutely far too long, 6 minutes extra time could have quite easily been about 8-10. Soon enough games will be closer to 2 hours long.
 
Could’ve cost us at least 2 points today without it. If you can’t see the benefits after today then you never will.

They just need to sort out how it’s used ready for next season.

Their first goal looks like it came off an elbow, we should've had a penalty, and a lot of refs would've given a red for such an uncontrolled challenge.

I'm not interested in judging VAR on whether, over all, it's gone in our favour in a given match. I'm interested in judging it on it's merits, and today I don't see it's done much other than add six minutes to the game.
 

We definifley should have had a penalty. Lundstram wasn't interfering when Basham got taken down by their player, so his offside position was an irrelevance.

The ball did seem to hit their players elbow before Tettey scored. I wouldn't usually want to see a goal chalked off for that because it was unavoidable / unintentional, but I thought any form of handball that leads to a goal should render it disallowed. Its the inconsistencies that piss me off with VAR.

The red card being overturned was the right call. However, I'd rather it stood & there be no VAR than this shite continue..
 
Breaking new ground with this thing every week. Has any other side in the league had such an interesting/ridiculous time of it? We must be the most VAR affected club in the league, for bad and good after the Bash decision just now.
Tottenham ridiculous offside.
Jota penalty check when he's miles offside.
Shelvey goal.
Lundstram/Basham goal/pen/offside threeway
Basham red rescinded.

What next?
Try Man City and Crystal Palace
 
Their first goal looks like it came off an elbow, we should've had a penalty, and a lot of refs would've given a red for such an uncontrolled challenge.

I'm not interested in judging VAR on whether, over all, it's gone in our favour in a given match. I'm interested in judging it on it's merits, and today I don't see it's done much other than add six minutes to the game.

The red card being rescinded proved the positives of the system, but even the biggest VAR supporter acknowledges that it’s far from perfect.

There are many improvements which could be made and in time I’ve no doubt it will improve, hopefully some improvements will be made for next season.
 
I hate it. I hated the idea of it and hate the reality. The enjoyment for the paying punter us being sucked out of the game. It has added very little but taken away so much of what the essence of football has always been.

Bad refereeing decisions have always been part of the game and you win some and you lose some. VAR has actually created more controversial incidents than we had before and the fact that it takes 3 minutes to still come to the wrong decision is plainly ridiculous. Why on earth could the money not have been spent on improving the standard of our referees that are currently some of the worst in Europe. How can we possible expect any kind of consistency and proper application of the VAR laws when it is being officiated by that bunch of pricks.

Give me my game back.
 
that was a nuts decision.

using the mdem term, lunny is nly active once bash has been bundled to the flor, but they even seem t have considered the pen. its wierd

The replay was ridiculous. They rewound it right back to last week to try and prove a point.

It's a stonewall penalty. The ball is then dead. Lunny scores. Goal.

Bollocks decision. Liverpool get that goal.
 
The red card being rescinded proved the positives of the system, but even the biggest VAR supporter acknowledges that it’s far from perfect.

There are many improvements which could be made and in time I’ve no doubt it will improve, hopefully some improvements will be made for next season.

It doesn't prove the positive of the system. I could've rescinded the card based on a coin flip and it wouldn't prove that my coin was making good decisions. VAR is controversial in almost every game you watch. It doesn't seem like there's anything to indicate it's better than referees making decisions freely. And it's not supposed to be just better, it needs to be significantly better to make up for the delays in play and the utter detachment fans are feeling from the game.
 
The replay was ridiculous. They rewound it right back to last week to try and prove a point.

It's a stonewall penalty. The ball is then dead. Lunny scores. Goal.

Bollocks decision. Liverpool get that goal.

Liverpool would have got the penalty. I might be wrong, but I think the whistle went before the shot went in. Even Liverpool can't be awarded a goal under those circumstances.
 

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