VAR Vote

[Selly]

My only issue with this vote is that

VAR has been proven to be about 95% accurate, so people are rightly furious about the 5% incorrect decisions.
However before VAR, the refs were 80% accurate and people were furious about 20% of the incorrect decisions.

So surely this is an improvement/ progress.

I'd love to see the methodology used to come up with those figures - have they gone back and drawn lines on every offside decision pre VAR to establish if it was "correct"?

And by its nature a lot of decisions in a football match are subjective - who is to say what the right decision is?

 

[dsr-burnley]

I'd love to see the methodology used to come up with those figures - have they gone back and drawn lines on every offside decision pre VAR to establish if it was "correct"?

And by its nature a lot of decisions in a football match are subjective - who is to say what the right decision is?

Bearing in mind that for many penalties, the referee's decision is deemed to be correct whatever he says - ie. if the ref gives a penalty when there is a slight contact, then VAR will say he is right, but if he doesn't give it, then VAR will still say he is right - then I find it hard (impossible) to believe that 20% of the big decisions were wrong.

As a rough guide, in 2005-06 there were 75 red cards but 3 were rescinded (4%) and in 2002-03 there were 75 red cards but 2 were rescinded (3%) - so the 20% wrong is clearly dubious. (Unless of course they count all decisions, such as throw-ins, but that would make no sense because VAR doesn't cover them.) (Sorry the stats are so old, it's a hard stat to find.)

Will 2023-24 Be a Record-Breaking Premier League Season for Red Cards? | Opta Analyst

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(Besides which, if they have gone back and drawn lines to determine which offsides would be different under VAR, then they would be being dishonest, not just wrong. Under the old rules, level was onside, and level did not mean to the quarter inch.)

 

[Proper Blade]

I'd love to see the methodology used to come up with those figures - have they gone back and drawn lines on every offside decision pre VAR to establish if it was "correct"?

And by its nature a lot of decisions in a football match are subjective - who is to say what the right decision is?

Yep. Basically, PGMOL are claiming that 98% of their subjective decisions are correct. Bonkers. It's madness that they claim this, and even crazier that supposed journalists trumpet it as fact.

 

[Working Class Hero]

I find the use of VAR for subjective decisions bizarre in the first place, and am strongly of the opinion that it should only be used for absolutely indisputable errors such as the hand of God (if it has to be used at all). But to use it for subjective decisions and then try to claim a certain percentage of those decisions are correct is just treating people as being stupid, when we all know that three people could look at an incident and have three different opinions.

Either use it sparingly for those indisputable incidences which would see it used only once every 5-10 games and give us our game back, or scrap it all together.