Uefa Women's Euro 2022 at Bramall Lane

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Ned the Donkey said:
I think it's down to the administrators. If they wanted to clean up the men's game they could. There are plenty of high stakes/high value sports where you don't have to sit through extended periods of WWE/gamesmanship.

For instance, and I haven't watched it for 20 years or so maybe they're alll prima donna cry-babies now, but that always struck me about American Football. No matter how bad the call, they got on with the game. And there were a few bob at stake in those games. I think there were incentives in the rules for them to do that.

Taking it further, it's hard to think of another sport which suffers as badly as men's football? At times games are just not much more than extended periods of WWE.

Diving, arguing with the ref, rolling around, arguing with the linesman, time-wasting, arguing with each other, it's all a blight on the game.

I enjoyed the game today for all sorts of reasons, but probably the main one is they played football.
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Agree, good point...however it's not just the administrators...it's the fans and whole historical culture of mens football.

Even now the ref will apply the rules and send someone off.
The opposition fans will always say it should never have been a red and the ref was incompetent, should be banned from the game etc.
Where the fans of the club benefiting from the red card always say it was definitely a red
and surprise surprise even the manager of the team benefiting will also say it was a red.

It's amazing that even with video evidence it's quite common for experts and fans of opposing teams to have polar
opposite views regards important ref decisions.

We can play really well but lose 1-0 to a dodgy penalty where their player dives
and many, maybe even most fans will say "we were crap" and demand that we should be diving too.
 



pudseyblade said:
The crowds we've drawn in for this are great for us selling the Lane as a host for future events - record broken not once, but twice (so far!).
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Be interesting to find out what the club make on this .... all donations greatly accepted 😁
 
NuddysGloves said:
If you stopped watching it ages ago then how do you know it is still crap? 🧐
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That's quite funny.

In the past, i've always started watching women tournaments, then stopped early on because the standard is generally too poor.
I've done the same this time and I don't know whether it's my tolerance levels but the standard does seem higher
and at times I have to admit I've found it entertaining (and that's using top level mens football as a benchmark, which is probably unfair).

I think you need to recalibrate when watching womens football.
I find that some parts are good, some bad, some brilliant and some really poor, all within the same game.
Overall it's more unpredictable but that makes it more exciting. I tolerate the bad bits and appreciate the good bits.

Todays fashion is to give polarised views. There's plenty of ammunition to report how wonderful and successful women football is (it's all over the BBC website). However there's also a lot of ammunition to report that women's football is very much a minor sport, not on a par with non league football who hardly receive any recognition or publicity.

It's all about context and the truth probably lies somewhere in between.

Also regards posters on here slagging off women football...of course they have a point
but it's a bit like a Spanish guy coming on here trying to throw cold water over our results and performances saying "you think McGoldrick is top quality but he's really poor and wouldn't get any where near my local team squad" ...he explains the team he supports is Barcelona".

How do you respond to that?
It's not wrong what he's saying. Our players are embarrassingly crap compared to most of the Barcelona players
but why would you state the obvious and be disrespectful at the same time?
However if someone said our team are as good as Barcelona then these anti Sheff Utd comparison comments are a fair reply.
 
247Blade said:
Be interesting to find out what the club make on this .... all donations greatly accepted 😁
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Yeah. I'm guessing a fixed fee as all stuff like catering is taken over. I guess we might have marginal profit share on the hotel if that ever gets going again for future events?
 
For what it’s worth, here are my views…

I went yesterday for my first time at a womens game and really enjoyed it. I’ve always sort of turned my nose up at it for not being ‘real’ football but realised it’s not that simple.

I thought some of the build up play, technique and passing was decent - clearly a lot of talent, but the final ball and killer finish was missing (but how many times have we all said that in whatever league we’re in).

In some ways it’s the same - it’s just football after all, in other ways it’s totally different and you just have to go with it. I never want to see those plastic clappy things and all the flags at home for our matches but actually yesterday it was quite fun. Very much more family oriented obviously.

I came away thinking mens and womens football are like identical twins that were separated at birth. Fundamentally the same but taken very different paths. Both have their place and I’d happily go watch a womens game again and I can tell you I’m a million times more likely to take my young daughter to watch a womens game than bring her to the Lane with me for the mens just yet.

So as others have said - if it’s not for you, fine. Nobody is making you watch it. If you like football of all variety and fancy something different, just go with it and give it a try. I think the key to enjoying it is to embrace the differences, don’t sit their griping about them.

My question though this morning is how do they grow the womens game (which it undeniably is doing) without the worst elements of the male game creeping in? Will be interesting to see how the womens game goes in the next few years but I was wrong to be so dismissive
 
Sheffsteel said:
That's quite funny.

In the past, i've always started watching women tournaments, then stopped early on because the standard is generally too poor.
I've done the same this time and I don't know whether it's my tolerance levels but the standard does seem higher
and at times I have to admit I've found it entertaining (and that's using top level mens football as a benchmark, which is probably unfair).

I think you need to recalibrate when watching womens football.
I find that some parts are good, some bad, some brilliant and some really poor, all within the same game.
Overall it's more unpredictable but that makes it more exciting. I tolerate the bad bits and appreciate the good bits.

Todays fashion is to give polarised views. There's plenty of ammunition to report how wonderful and successful women football is (it's all over the BBC website). However there's also a lot of ammunition to report that women's football is very much a minor sport, not on a par with non league football who hardly receive any recognition or publicity.

It's all about context and the truth probably lies somewhere in between.

Also regards posters on here slagging off women football...of course they have a point
but it's a bit like a Spanish guy coming on here trying to throw cold water over our results and performances saying "you think McGoldrick is top quality but he's really poor and wouldn't get any where near my local team squad" ...he explains the team he supports is Barcelona".

How do you respond to that?
It's not wrong what he's saying. Our players are embarrassingly crap compared to most of the Barcelona players
but why would you state the obvious and be disrespectful at the same time?
However if someone said our team are as good as Barcelona then these anti Sheff Utd comparison comments are a fair reply.
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The standard is definitely getting better, I started watching women's football about 10 years ago when the WSL had just started up and the game has come on leaps and bounds since then. It's funny how it can grow when it is shown support and gets proper facilities and coaching etc.

Around 100 years ago there was a football team in Preston called the Dick Kerr Ladies Team, they were quite a phenomenon and more people used to go watch them than would go to see the men's teams, so naturally the FA saw this and decided to ban women's football from using any of their pitches or facilities etc essentially stopping it from evolving. It would be interesting to see what level the women's game was at if they'd been supported instead of shut out for those 50 years.
 
Snake said:
FFS, good job the games weren't being played at Swillsborough, otherwise the piggy twats would be adopting this as their own. Imagine 20k (sorry meant 200k) piggies doing this every fortnight.
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Gary Sinclair is already on it for BDTBL and you know it!
 
Champagneblade said:
Gary Sinclair is already on it for BDTBL and you know it!
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Haha, yes no doubt he is mate! Only difference is (like the Tom Hark thing for Nuddy) it'll last a couple of seasons then be done with. The pigs still think they invented a drum and trumpets from their foray into Europe 30 years ago losing in their second game against Kaiserslautern! Embarrassing twats - funny as fuck for us though!
 
just ted said:
For what it’s worth, here are my views…

I went yesterday for my first time at a womens game and really enjoyed it. I’ve always sort of turned my nose up at it for not being ‘real’ football but realised it’s not that simple.

I thought some of the build up play, technique and passing was decent - clearly a lot of talent, but the final ball and killer finish was missing (but how many times have we all said that in whatever league we’re in).

In some ways it’s the same - it’s just football after all, in other ways it’s totally different and you just have to go with it. I never want to see those plastic clappy things and all the flags at home for our matches but actually yesterday it was quite fun. Very much more family oriented obviously.

I came away thinking mens and womens football are like identical twins that were separated at birth. Fundamentally the same but taken very different paths. Both have their place and I’d happily go watch a womens game again and I can tell you I’m a million times more likely to take my young daughter to watch a womens game than bring her to the Lane with me for the mens just yet.

So as others have said - if it’s not for you, fine. Nobody is making you watch it. If you like football of all variety and fancy something different, just go with it and give it a try. I think the key to enjoying it is to embrace the differences, don’t sit their griping about them.

My question though this morning is how do they grow the womens game (which it undeniably is doing) without the worst elements of the male game creeping in? Will be interesting to see how the womens game goes in the next few years but I was wrong to be so dismissive
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I think the biggest difference between the two is that at men's football you get a load of wankers and yoof (mostly cunts) who are all out on the piss and coke and just want to ruin everyone else's day.

Yesterday was a great advert for women's football, but also a great example of how more inclusive and fun the stadium could be for the men's game once the toxic masculinity and twattish behaviour is toned down or removed.

I have tickets for a Netherlands men's game in Qatar, and I predict it'll be similar to yesterday, as the issues we have in the men's game is largely an internal one, and not an international one.
 
just ted said:
For what it’s worth, here are my views…

I went yesterday for my first time at a womens game and really enjoyed it. I’ve always sort of turned my nose up at it for not being ‘real’ football but realised it’s not that simple.

I thought some of the build up play, technique and passing was decent - clearly a lot of talent, but the final ball and killer finish was missing (but how many times have we all said that in whatever league we’re in).

In some ways it’s the same - it’s just football after all, in other ways it’s totally different and you just have to go with it. I never want to see those plastic clappy things and all the flags at home for our matches but actually yesterday it was quite fun. Very much more family oriented obviously.

I came away thinking mens and womens football are like identical twins that were separated at birth. Fundamentally the same but taken very different paths. Both have their place and I’d happily go watch a womens game again and I can tell you I’m a million times more likely to take my young daughter to watch a womens game than bring her to the Lane with me for the mens just yet.

So as others have said - if it’s not for you, fine. Nobody is making you watch it. If you like football of all variety and fancy something different, just go with it and give it a try. I think the key to enjoying it is to embrace the differences, don’t sit their griping about them.

My question though this morning is how do they grow the womens game (which it undeniably is doing) without the worst elements of the male game creeping in? Will be interesting to see how the womens game goes in the next few years but I was wrong to be so dismissive
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This is bang on. It's football. The same but different.

(Though I do think we should give Dance Cam a go in the Championship next season.)
 



Sheffield as a city and us as a club should be showing the FA it's been such a big success when it comes to us winning the euros bid ( in return for not running a world cup one) the days of grounds in the UK getting done up for tournaments is probably over as we have so many good ones now but it can't hurt.
 
Inter_blade83 said:
I think the biggest difference between the two is that at men's football you get a load of wankers and yoof (mostly cunts) who are all out on the piss and coke and just want to ruin everyone else's day.

Yesterday was a great advert for women's football, but also a great example of how more inclusive and fun the stadium could be for the men's game once the toxic masculinity and twattish behaviour is toned down or removed.

I have tickets for a Netherlands men's game in Qatar, and I predict it'll be similar to yesterday, as the issues we have in the men's game is largely an internal one, and not an international one.
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Sad but true. I went to a few of the euro 2016 matches in France and happened to be with a load of German fans for most of it. They love their football, love their beer, all speak about 3 languages and could have a great time without being knobs about it.
 
The enjoyment around live tournament football is 100 per cent about sacking off England and following other teams for me from now on.

Going to Germany 2024 for me would be about the beer/food of the cities, partying with other football fans and enjoying their footy culture.
 
Dkc said:
England v Spain in the quarter finals. I'll be supporting Spain. Although I have a British passport I live in Spain and my partner is Spanish - and I want the Spanish fans to come to Sheffield for the semi final.

If it were the men's tournament there's no way I'd be supporting England's opponents, but for some reason in the women's game it seems okay.
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vamos españa
 
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247Blade said:
Be interesting to find out what the club make on this .... all donations greatly accepted
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just ted said:
For what it’s worth, here are my views…

I went yesterday for my first time at a womens game and really enjoyed it. I’ve always sort of turned my nose up at it for not being ‘real’ football but realised it’s not that simple.

I thought some of the build up play, technique and passing was decent - clearly a lot of talent, but the final ball and killer finish was missing (but how many times have we all said that in whatever league we’re in).

In some ways it’s the same - it’s just football after all, in other ways it’s totally different and you just have to go with it. I never want to see those plastic clappy things and all the flags at home for our matches but actually yesterday it was quite fun. Very much more family oriented obviously.

I came away thinking mens and womens football are like identical twins that were separated at birth. Fundamentally the same but taken very different paths. Both have their place and I’d happily go watch a womens game again and I can tell you I’m a million times more likely to take my young daughter to watch a womens game than bring her to the Lane with me for the mens just yet.

So as others have said - if it’s not for you, fine. Nobody is making you watch it. If you like football of all variety and fancy something different, just go with it and give it a try. I think the key to enjoying it is to embrace the differences, don’t sit their griping about them.

My question though this morning is how do they grow the womens game (which it undeniably is doing) without the worst elements of the male game creeping in? Will be interesting to see how the womens game goes in the next few years but I was wrong to be so dismissive
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Its been wonderful spectacle for the city and the football itself has been very entertaining. But without the glamour of international football, I feel the women game is always going to struggle at club level. Unless it was incorporated into an enhanced season ticket package and played before or after a men’s game. I simply don’t think they’ll will get the numbers to be a separate viable entity. In essence your asking an established fan base to all support a second team. Maybe they could follow Rugby League and turn women’s football into a summer game?
 
just ted said:
For what it’s worth, here are my views…

I went yesterday for my first time at a womens game and really enjoyed it. I’ve always sort of turned my nose up at it for not being ‘real’ football but realised it’s not that simple.

I thought some of the build up play, technique and passing was decent - clearly a lot of talent, but the final ball and killer finish was missing (but how many times have we all said that in whatever league we’re in).

In some ways it’s the same - it’s just football after all, in other ways it’s totally different and you just have to go with it. I never want to see those plastic clappy things and all the flags at home for our matches but actually yesterday it was quite fun. Very much more family oriented obviously.

I came away thinking mens and womens football are like identical twins that were separated at birth. Fundamentally the same but taken very different paths. Both have their place and I’d happily go watch a womens game again and I can tell you I’m a million times more likely to take my young daughter to watch a womens game than bring her to the Lane with me for the mens just yet.

So as others have said - if it’s not for you, fine. Nobody is making you watch it. If you like football of all variety and fancy something different, just go with it and give it a try. I think the key to enjoying it is to embrace the differences, don’t sit their griping about them.

My question though this morning is how do they grow the womens game (which it undeniably is doing) without the worst elements of the male game creeping in? Will be interesting to see how the womens game goes in the next few years but I was wrong to be so dismissive
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I went to yesterday's game and really enjoyed it. At first it felt strange being on the Kop as a neutral, but soon got used to it. Very family-friendly environment and probably many people's first visit to a football ground. Who knows, potentially a lot of new future Blades fans. A record crowd, too of over 22,500 for a game not involving the hosts.
 
For people there was there anything promoting the women's side playing at the Lane this year or was it all UEFA'd up?
 



Good job you added the 'at Bramall Lane' part to the thread title, otherwise Foxy would be reducing your sorry ass to the 'Other football' part of the forum

Personally I think you're cutting it fine anyway, and if this were a time where we had normal traffic around these parts we wouldn't tolerate this kind of tenuous nonsense, but after urgent Cobra meetings between the staff we decided to let it slide on this occasion.

You should count yourselves lucky. Let this be a lesson to you all though that this kind of relativism will not be tolerated in the future.
 
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