Transfer Kitty

[Bladeloyal]

McCabe wrote the debt off in return for major investment by the prince think the figure Jim said was about 10 m put in but not all spent ,next batch of investment when we get to the champ . I love how people pick numbers out of thin air 10 ,20' 30 m

 

[Bladeloyal]

I doubt he's invested £20m so far. I think he would of expected to at least be in the championship by now if he had and if he is not worth more than £100m i am surprised he hasn't walked yet because at that rate he'll be broke in five years time.

Think he's putting in what his companies are making him on a yearly basis . Don't think he will selling the Beverly Hills pad any time soon

 

[Woodwardfan]

I've already said many things are different this season to last in financial terms, since Clough gambled high and lost. If you cant see that, fine.

We are going around in circles and our views on sustainability are very different.

I think Adkins is more aware of things than some.
“We have a lot of players under contract and we’ll have to give them the opportunities to keep moving forward.

“We’ll work with the owners because we all want the same thing, but we are mindful of the limitations of Financial Fair Play and SCMP. We will have to be wise in what we’re going

“We also have to work under the restraints of the club,” Adkins added.

I don't think Clough "gambled high" last summer, indeed I think he stated the required budget and spent exactly what he judged we needed but he got it wrong. Why? Because the players he signed weren't as good as he thought they were.

He did gamble very high indeed in the JTW and yet even when he threw the Board's money at the situation, he didn't get his players on board until February, very late in the piece.

Last summer I think Clough and his brother misjudged their new signings big time. Everything followed on from there. Clough could have gone for a bigger budget last summer but was working with the Board to keep some funds back for the Championship. Clough fucked it up and has paid the price.

Over 60% of our fans polled to say they thought Clough should have been given more time. It's that number which will be a millstone for the Board and maybe even Adkins before long if things don't go well early season. It's a bad stat for the new manager and the reason I have "gloated" about Clough's sacking which was inevitable and the sooner rather than later made more business sense.

Blades fans have a history of saying various managers in the past should have been given more time and it always works against the prevailing mood, much like any depressive nature.

 

[metalblade]

I doubt he's invested £20m so far. I think he would of expected to at least be in the championship by now if he had and if he is not worth more than £100m i am surprised he hasn't walked yet because at that rate he'll be broke in five years time.

McCabe wrote the debt off in return for major investment by the prince think the figure Jim said was about 10 m put in but not all spent ,next batch of investment when we get to the champ . I love how people pick numbers out of thin air 10 ,20' 30 m

You know what £10 million multiplied by two owners equals don't you metal?
Plus of course it's more than that now as they've been in 18-19 months plus sacked another manager and backroom team and there's the pitch.
Keep digging son.

Stop it now Flatulent_Bob you are making yourself look ridiculous, I think the top two quotes say it all ............. and you have the cheek to tell me to stop digging .

 

[ScoobBlade]

I heard Clough left a note saying 'there's no money left - I spent it on the Beard'

Most of us did want him though, the day we signed brayford was one of the best of last season, he may of cost a fair bit but it's fuckin brayford !

 

[BushBlade]

I don't think Clough "gambled high" last summer, indeed I think he stated the required budget and spent exactly what he judged we needed but he got it wrong. Why? Because the players he signed weren't as good as he thought they were.

He did gamble very high indeed in the JTW and yet even when he threw the Board's money at the situation, he didn't get his players on board until February, very late in the piece.

Last summer I think Clough and his brother misjudged their new signings big time. Everything followed on from there. Clough could have gone for a bigger budget last summer but was working with the Board to keep some funds back for the Championship. Clough fucked it up and has paid the price.

Over 60% of our fans polled to say they thought Clough should have been given more time. It's that number which will be a millstone for the Board and maybe even Adkins before long if things don't go well early season. It's a bad stat for the new manager and the reason I have "gloated" about Clough's sacking which was inevitable and the sooner rather than later made more business sense.

Blades fans have a history of saying various managers in the past should have been given more time and it always works against the prevailing mood, much like any depressive nature.

The 60%, as far as I'm aware, was before we knew we were getting Adkins. A lot of the concern over sacking Clough was the fear of ending up with someone like Rob Page or someone called Phil.

I'm pretty sure that although Adkins wasn't everyone's first choice, the vast majority believe he is a better manager than Clough and a good appointment. I'd suggest 95%+ are behind him.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Stop it now Flatulent_Bob you are making yourself look ridiculous, I think the top two quotes say it all ............. and you have the cheek to tell me to stop digging .

So you use a quote from when the Prince first came in nearly two years ago rather than someone else supporting my claim that they've put in £20M plus which was made this year.

You said it wasn't even £10 million.
Are you Len in disguise?

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

The 60%, as far as I'm aware, was before we knew we were getting Adkins. A lot of the concern over sacking Clough was the fear of ending up with someone like Rob Page or someone called Phil.

I'm pretty sure that although Adkins wasn't everyone's first choice, the vast majority believe he is a better manager than Clough and a good appointment. I'd suggest 95%+ are behind him.

Bush , agree . 95% > are behind Adkins . There will always be a minority , who still would not be happy , even if we had Pep Guardiola or Jose Mourinho in charge . Thats football.

UTB

 

[BushBlade]

Bush , agree . 95% > are behind Adkins . There will always be a minority , who still would not be happy , even if we had Pep Guardiola or Jose Mourinho in charge . Thats football.

UTB

Mourinho's just a Portuguese Warnock and Pep's football is too tippy-tappy, wouldn't work in L1.

 

[bladesmanluke]

Does the Prince or Jim Phipps tell you how much they invest and when they do so ? Thought not, your £20m figure is just a wild guestimate I would say half that figure would still be a fair bit optimistic considering the money that came in from the cup runs and the Maguire sale. But then again what do I know probably about as much as you but I'm not the one making wild guesses on how much the Prince has invested. Take out the transfer fees for Brayford ,Done and Coutts which will be more or less covered by the Maguire money and we haven't paid out much for players in fact a fair few have come here on free transfers.

Jim said as of April the prince had invested £10m. It could be more than that now, it might not be. But it's £10m minimum. Thank you Prince Abdullah. Most of us are incredibly grateful

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Jim said as of April the prince had invested £10m. It could be more than that now, it might not be. But it's £10m minimum. Thank you Prince Abdullah. Most of us are incredibly grateful

...and that from one half of the partnership. My comment was they've put in £20 million in reply to a direct quote mentioning both McCabe and the Prince. My comment on the Prince alone was £10-20 million. Both figures based on what was said openly in radio interviews.
I wasn't pulling figures from the air just to troll others it actually had some basis in fact, metal on the other hand......

Does the Prince or Jim Phipps tell you how much they invest and when they do so ? Thought not, your £20m figure is just a wild guestimate I would say half that figure would still be a fair bit optimistic considering the moneythat came in from the cup runs and theMaguire sale. But then again what do I know probably about as much as you but I'm not the one making wild guesses on how much the Prince has invested. Take out the transfer fees for Brayford ,Done and Coutts which will be more or less covered by the Maguire money and we haven't paid out much for players in fact a fair few have come here on free transfers.

 

[Woodwardfan]

The 60%, as far as I'm aware, was before we knew we were getting Adkins. A lot of the concern over sacking Clough was the fear of ending up with someone like Rob Page or someone called Phil.

I'm pretty sure that although Adkins wasn't everyone's first choice, the vast majority believe he is a better manager than Clough and a good appointment. I'd suggest 95%+ are behind him.

Of course 95% are behind Adkins at this stage. What I'm talking about are those 60% who voted to say they think Clough warranted more time. They will have that lodged in their minds; they'll forget ( consciously or sub-consciously) that they welcomed Adkins should things not go so well for the new manager in the first few months. Some on here will repeat time and again that Clough would have turned things round. Some still say it about Wilson and some even say it about Blackwell.

Let's have a poll now to establish how many think the Board have done the right thing changing from Clough to Adkins. At least then some on here won't be reflecting back on that 60% poll for the next ten or fifteen years or so.

It matters. Such tricks of the mind play away when results are less than hoped for. Fans of losing clubs love to have scapegoats and ultimately the Board are there to be shot at. On the other hand the only way might be up and Clough will be forgotten by the New Year.

You imply he is forgotten already. I fear not. I know he isn't if things don't go well next season.

 

[metalblade]

...and that from one half of the partnership. My comment was they've put in £20 million in reply to a direct quote mentioning both McCabe and the Prince. My comment on the Prince alone was £10-20 million. Both figures based on what was said openly in radio interviews.
I wasn't pulling figures from the air just to troll others it actually had some basis in fact, metal on the other hand......

 

[wizadry]

I'm pretty sure that although Adkins wasn't everyone's first choice, the vast majority believe he is a better manager than Clough and a good appointment. I'd suggest 95%+ are behind him.

Bush , agree . 95% > are behind Adkins . There will always be a minority , who still would not be happy , even if we had Pep Guardiola or Jose Mourinho in charge . Thats football.

UTB

If there aren't 100% of Blades behind Adkins at this moment in time they're never going to be behind any Blades manager, whether they wanted him or not, or whether they wanted Clough sacked or not they should still be behind Adkins now.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Keep on trolling

 

[BushBlade]

Of course 95% are behind Adkins at this stage. What I'm talking about are those 60% who voted to say they think Clough warranted more time. They will have that lodged in their minds; they'll forget ( consciously or sub-consciously) that they welcomed Adkins should things not go so well for the new manager in the first few months. Some on here will repeat time and again that Clough would have turned things round. Some still say it about Wilson and some even say it about Blackwell.

Let's have a poll now to establish how many think the Board have done the right thing changing from Clough to Adkins. At least then some on here won't be reflecting back on that 60% poll for the next ten or fifteen years or so.

It matters. Such tricks of the mind play away when results are less than hoped for. Fans of losing clubs love to have scapegoats and ultimately the Board are there to be shot at. On the other hand the only way might be up and Clough will be forgotten by the New Year.

You imply he is forgotten already. I fear not. I know he isn't if things don't go well next season.

I disagree. I suspect the majority of those who were happy for Clough to stay were so because they value stability. I'd be very surprised if many thought him to be the new Guardiola, more that despite his flaws, he'd probably get there, eventually.

I think the majority of that 60% still value stability and aren't so fickle that they'll turn on Adkins over a couple of bad games. In fact I think a lot will defend him.

If you're saying that he might not survive a 'Weir like' start to the season, no he probably won't, nor would Clough had he stayed.

 

[Davie Blade]

Interesting comments s from the stir and NA , himself.
Again it gives clues to where we are at this season.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/sheff-utd/sheffield-united-could-delve-into-loan-market-1-7305477

Adkins won’t be given anything like a ‘war chest’ to strengthen his squad
“So using the loan market is something that successful teams appear to be doing a lot more now and obviously that is an avenue that we can go down and we can explore to enhance the group of players that we’ve got.”

“Because the finances are getting greater and greater, to actually go and buy someone and pay them a full wage, potentially over a long period of time, can actually be quite damaging to a football club.

Seems he is only to well aware of recent times with anywhere between 35-41 players recently on the books at one time.
I've said for a while now, his hardest job is to ship so many out.

I'm somehow reminded of a wise sage on here who said earlier

the utter cluster fuck NN made of the job.

 

[metalblade]

I think Adkins will have to trim down the squad size before he is allowed to spend, not saying we have no money but I reckon he will have to generate some of his transfer kitty himself.

 

[robbiez666]

You don't need a lot of money to get out of this league, just shrewd signings. Clearing out will be tricky though.

 

[Woodwardfan]

I disagree. I suspect the majority of those who were happy for Clough to stay were so because they value stability. I'd be very surprised if many thought him to be the new Guardiola, more that despite his flaws, he'd probably get there, eventually.

I think the majority of that 60% still value stability and aren't so fickle that they'll turn on Adkins over a couple of bad games. In fact I think a lot will defend him.

If you're saying that he might not survive a 'Weir like' start to the season, no he probably won't, nor would Clough had he stayed.

Let's all hope for a period of time where we can all see that the manager is making good sound decisions based on balancing the squad and reducing it to an optimium size. Adkins is clearly aware that corrections need to be made and that the past year has taken it's toll on everybodys' morale. He talks of everyone being "united" as he sets about the job of re-igniting the passion of the players and the fans.

The new manager is very smooth in his media interviews. He has an eloquence and delivers very clear and thoughtful messages which certainly strike chords with his audiences. We hang on his every word in this "honeymoon period" and I hope that period lasts at least three years or more. We are all looking for a long period of stability and a "marriage" that is a happy one way beyond the "honeymoon"!