CONFIRMED Tom Cannon signs until 2029, with a year option

[Mojo]

Wonder how much commission cannons agent is giving to nixon?

 

[Brownieblade]

From the little I know of this lad, if we start him and Kiefer together and get a penalty at the sty I’m going to just sod off to the bogs and just pray

 

[Yoonited]

TBF Iwobi was a surprising comparison, albeit probably faster than most of our players. I did wonder if Adder meant Traore, his Fulham team mate, which might have made the point clearer(?).

Possibly
I'm leaning towards having pace on the wing and decent supply to a fox in the box type finisher,negating the need for pace for new striker.

 

[dillis]

Yes

What platform is this?

 

[Berkshire Blade]

What platform is this?

Bluesky it's a clickable link

 

[Bell4]

Oh

Yea

Right

 

[Berkshire Blade]

New owners must be resetting the money we need to imagine spending if this is a buy now

 

[idleurchin]

What about the weaknesses that have been listed who've seen him more than a handful? Like Stoke fans? Or people living with Stoke fans?

My point still applies.

 

[Bell4]

“What do you mean Ashley Barnes has gone to Burnley?”

Give Brewster time

 

[Bell4]

Am I right in thinking that some of our fans moan about having owners who won’t/can’t spend, moan about not competing. Then, same fans when we do have owners willing to back the manager, moan about overspending?

No your not

They’re different fans with opposing perspectives imo

 

[Need4speed]

Those mentioning FFP rules, the rules in the Premier are changing for a start, also teams have shown they can 100% get round the rules, by selling the assets they own back to themselves and selling unknown academy players for millions. We will be able to do the same. The question is have our owners got the money to spend, knowing they will never get it back.

 

[Jon Bon II]

I was reading the Sunderland forum and there's some interesting ideas amongst their fans about how much money they'd be getting on promotion.

Has PL money changed drastically for next season and I've missed it? They seem to think it's 150 million minimum and then around 100 million in parachute money. So around 250 for going up and coming straight back down. I thought it was about 170.

LOL, you couldn't make it up. Mackems were deriding us and crying into their beer, when we beat them at the Lane, 'B-b-but parachute payments, it's not fair, whaaaaah!' Now they're getting all jizzy-knickered and slavering down their chops at the thought of them getting the same.

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[MayorOJC]

Are you saying players need pace to score goals and therefore we need a pacier signing than Cannon,or have I missed your point entirely
Not unfeasable

Nah, someone implied Cannon was a "Championship Haaland". I was saying his non-penalty goal total (was) the same as Iwobi (although is now 2 goals lower). So he's a Championship Iwobi, but not as fast.

 

[FredZeppelin]

Give Brewster time

Just needs a good pre-season under his belt.

utb

 

[Le Cynique]

I felt Rod Hills pain

Well, if you will insist on sticking your fist up an emu’s cloaca…

 

[Blade56]

Well, if you will insist on sticking your fist up an emu’s cloaca…

My fist, oh yehhhhh, my “fist”

 

[Bell4]

It’s today

Well tbh - you were spot in with the tekkover - you even announced it a day early !

Beat that ITK ers

 

[Jon P]

I've not seen much of Cannon but there doesn't seem to be a lot of alternatives either that are viable. He knows where the net is, has a touch of pace, has a good finish and plays of the shoulder of the defence meaning he should compliment Moore who as we know is a taller, hold up type.

Cannon can finish with either foot too.

Forget the fee for a minute and think will he do well for us now? I'm in favour. He's young still of course. Also if he goes to Sunderland and gets them promoted instead we'd all be saying we were gutted he didn't choose United.

If anything i just want him now so Sunderland can't have him

 

[PotterLog]

I’ve watched him 6/7 times this season.

I just like watching football. When we’re not on I watch whatever is available. Usually take an interest in ex players or players we’ve been linked with so watched Stoke a bit on the red button / dodgy stick.

They’re truly terrible which is baffling for the amount of investment and some of the players they’ve had over recent years but they’re turd.

Regarding Cannon. He’s a good finisher. Has a nice touch and has a trait where he likes to get a shot off early - complete opposite of Moore at times who gets closed down before pulling the trigger.

I personally think he’s way too passive to be worth £13 million. He doesn’t seem to have any outstanding attributes. He’s not big, not dominant, not particularly strong and is not blessed with loads of pace.

When Stoke played Wednesday, Wednesdays went down to 10 men and Stoke weee just crying out for a couple of player to step up and take the game by the scruff of the neck. The Wednesday defence looked a literal bombscare with the ball anywhere near them. They just needed to press and press hard. They were all beyond passive it was so frustrating to watch and they ended up losing 2-0. Cannon did not lead the line well that day at all. It’s been a similar story in most of the other games I’ve seen him in too. If he’s getting service he looks pretty sharp. He doesn’t create anything for himself and his hold up play is not brilliant.

For £13m I wanted someone in who was head and shoulders better than what’s here already. An absolute cert to start. As it stands I think he and Campbell will offer very similar numbers between now and the end of the season. Just one was free and one looks like costing £13m

Had a good read of the Stoke forum thread on him - back before there was any sign of a recall and their views were very varied. Some didn’t think he worked hard enough or influenced games enough and some thought he was their best striker in years.

Ecstatic to be proven wrong and he’ll have my 100% backing should he sign. It’s also great to get a statement signing in during the window and potentially beat a promotion rival to someone’s signature. That’s not a scenario we blades have enjoyed all that many times in our recent history.

This is all 100% correct.

He's a bit of an odd one because he's one of them that will get goals - he just will inevitably get on the end of things, can create an opening and has a good shot - but whether the team as a whole benefits that much is highly debatable. It's great when you have a forward who is scoring well, but I always think you have to look at the overall productivity of the team to get a proper picture of how much they're really adding.

Which isn't to say he's completely useless, it's hard to dislike a forward with an eye for goal, but he's just incredibly ordinary in his all-round game. I'd rather have kept him but I'm not that bothered to see him go. If you offered me him or Campbell it'd be a toss-up. And I'd much rather have BBD!

7m is very steep, 13m is just bonkers

 

[Tezza1889]

Done apparently (from my source who has been wrong before btw)

 

[Yoonited]

Nah, someone implied Cannon was a "Championship Haaland". I was saying his non-penalty goal total (was) the same as Iwobi (although is now 2 goals lower). So he's a Championship Iwobi, but not as fast.

Whoever comes,I'm not overly keen to be promoted,unless we see the ridiculous investment required to secure a permanent place in the prem.And that for me feeds the monster it's become,perpetuating the cycle.

 

[Bell4]

Just needs a good pre-season under his belt.

utb

And a transfer

 

[Wards]

It's great when you have a forward who is scoring well, but I always think you have to look at the overall productivity of the team to get a proper picture of how much they're really adding.

This is a fair point - we can probably afford to have a bit of a 'passenger' for spells of a game. No offence to Stoke and yourself PotterLog but you aren't in a position to really have that right now.

He could be a good signing for us if we can create for him.

 

[Bell4]

Done apparently (from my source who has been wrong before btw)

Yup

Just read same

Shit - it was your post

 

[ben1987]

This is all 100% correct.

He's a bit of an odd one because he's one of them that will get goals - he just will inevitably get on the end of things, can create an opening and has a good shot - but whether the team as a whole benefits that much is highly debatable. It's great when you have a forward who is scoring well, but I always think you have to look at the overall productivity of the team to get a proper picture of how much they're really adding.

Which isn't to say he's completely useless, it's hard to dislike a forward with an eye for goal, but he's just incredibly ordinary in his all-round game. I'd rather have kept him but I'm not that bothered to see him go. If you offered me him or Campbell it'd be a toss-up. And I'd much rather have BBD!

7m is very steep, 13m is just bonkers

Cheers for that and mean no offence when saying you’re terrible.

Just don’t know how your fans are patient when served with some of the shite I’ve watched you put out this season

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

If what he’s report is correct, I’m intrigued as to what we’re willing to pay Cannon in wages? Presume the average championship striker is earning £10-20k p/w - are we offering him £25k a week?

Big money on top of the amount if so it’s another £1m on top in wages over 3 1/2 years

 

[ISZA ⚔️]

Done apparently (from my source who has been wrong before btw)

My source who has also been wrong before says not done. Make of that what you will

 

[Tezza1889]

My source who has also been wrong before says not done. Make of that what you will

All i know is he's been recalled ...so something is happening..

 

[CaptainMorgans]

This is all 100% correct.

He's a bit of an odd one because he's one of them that will get goals - he just will inevitably get on the end of things, can create an opening and has a good shot - but whether the team as a whole benefits that much is highly debatable. It's great when you have a forward who is scoring well, but I always think you have to look at the overall productivity of the team to get a proper picture of how much they're really adding.

Which isn't to say he's completely useless, it's hard to dislike a forward with an eye for goal, but he's just incredibly ordinary in his all-round game. I'd rather have kept him but I'm not that bothered to see him go. If you offered me him or Campbell it'd be a toss-up. And I'd much rather have BBD!

7m is very steep, 13m is just bonkers

The hope is that we are still after BBD.
We'd then be looking at:

Brereton - Cannon - Campbell
..................O'Hare
.............Hamer - Souza

With the likes of Andre Brooks, Rak-Sakyi, Kieffer Moore in reserve offering something different.

The point being, with all those players around Cannon we'd maybe just be looking for someone to disrupt defenders, stretch the play a bit and finish chances.
All attributes that I think he does have from watching him a few times.

Admittedly, for £10m I'd be wanting someone with greater physical attributes with more potential to step up to PL, but willing to trust recruitment on this.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Agree…some of our fans want us to spend…spend….spend….lets take the credit cards to the max.

However once the dust has settled….you realise you’ve built up huge debts and might be facing a points deduction due to struggling to meet the FFP ruled.
It will be the same fans complaining about a lack of ambition that will be complaining we’ve wasted money and been foolhardy overspending.
If we’re not promoted then next season sees a large drop in income…..so in order to survive we’ll need to sell 2 or 3 of our best players.

Imagine the melt down if and when this happens…..but clubs aren’t allowed to effectively cheat….by building up massive debts.
It’s essential we get the balance right between being ambitious and running the club properly within the FFP rules.
Suspect the solution relates to carefully crafted imaginative clauses within a contract, hence the long drawn out negotiations.

It's imperative you get a good ROI. "It's not my money I couldn't give a shit" doesn't work in the real world of Championship football. It can hamstrung you for years going forward - no matter how well intentioned or deep the owner's pockets are. There's got to be a number where United walk away as the anticipated return risk/reward just isn't healthy enough.