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Great interview, he even attempts to put them off the scent of how we really play.

Oh! and the owners want their heads knocking together.
 

It’s still a gamble though because you can never guarantee that a player will reproduce his form at a new club. Chancer didn’t see Rhodes as a gamble, he saw it as a ‘Mitrovich’ type signing to make sure they got over the line. He may as well have taken his £10m, washed it down with some Elev8 and shat it out of his arse.

Naturally, the better the manager and his recruitment staff are, the better the odds of getting a Norwood rather than a Hussey but no one is infallible, it’s still a gamble.
But you're getting to the point where getting out of bed in a morning is a gamble there. If we want first XI players with upside we have to pay for them
 
I know it's a daft thing to say, but I can't imagine anyone else managing the Blades.

Very true. He is here as long as he wants as he is doing stunning job to be top of the league with what i (lovingly) call a bunch a misfits. As you look at Henderson O'Connell Duffy Mcgoldrick Clarke freeman Coutts Norwood we brought in. Because the clubs didnt want. Or more than happy to sell. If he gets 2 promotions in 3 years then that guy deserves a statue

But i always say the horrible side of football. Is if ranieri can lose & get under pressure after 3 months. Then no one is safe
 
He needs money in January! No matter what we do.

This could be our best chance to get promoted. If the board don’t back him CW will leave and I wouldn’t have any issue with it.
It would be nice to think that our joint owners could see the sense in each of them contributing (say) £10m as a loan to the club, so that whoever ends up in charge, the other will at least get their £10m back.
By the time the case gets to court (May 2019) the season will be over and they may be still be fighting to keep control of the club, but the stakes (and cost) could be much, much higher ;)
 
It’s still a gamble though because you can never guarantee that a player will reproduce his form at a new club. Chancer didn’t see Rhodes as a gamble, he saw it as a ‘Mitrovich’ type signing to make sure they got over the line. He may as well have taken his £10m, washed it down with some Elev8 and shat it out of his arse.

Naturally, the better the manager and his recruitment staff are, the better the odds of getting a Norwood rather than a Hussey but no one is infallible, it’s still a gamble.

I agree that it is a tough call to get the right guy in who 'can hit the ground running' and deliver on his promise.
A big costing player on high wages not pulling his weight and struggling to make the team or even the bench will put a strain on the tight-knit group that currently exist.
 
But you're getting to the point where getting out of bed in a morning is a gamble there. If we want first XI players with upside we have to pay for them
I agree we should be signing players and that if they’re not going to back Wilder, who would they back? But it’s still possible they back Wilder and it doesn’t work out. Although I’ll believe it when I see it because they’re in dispute and one of them will lose the club. And whoever wins will have to deal with not having the Brooks money next season, which means they’ll either have to put a load of money in (mmm) or sell other players.

Wilder will have to balance between what we need now and whether that will detract from what we’ll need next season if we don’t go up. Probably without knowing who’s going to be in charge or what they’re prepared to invest. So, almost impossible.

I don’t think I’d fancy his job.
 
Just published online, so maybe in tomorrow's edition?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...d-united-players-100-for-some-beers-mlhmmgzxd

A few days ago, Chris Wilder caught a bus. As it pulled away, the driver glanced at his unexpected passenger in astonishment. “What are you doing?” he said. “You can’t do this.” He can and did. “I needed to pop into town, the stop’s on my doorstep and it’s better than getting caught in traffic,” Wilder says. “I quite like the bus.” It is a small anecdote which unpeels Sheffield United’s manager to translucency.

Wilder is a Sheffield man, a Blade man. A ballboy, supporter and player for the club he now leads, he has made a habit of melding the ordinary to the extraordinary. After six years in Sky Bet League One, his team were promoted in his first season back at Bramall Lane and they now stand top of the Championship, operating on a limited budget, beset by challenges, raw and ferocious, normal and abnormal.

This is where Wilder excels. His route to this point has been arduous, but the experience shapes him. He knows what it is like to go unpaid, to have cheques bounce, to have his credit card declined. Football will never be ‘a project’ to him. “That’s all bullshit,” he says. “I couldn’t talk like that with the lads I have a pint with on a Sunday afternoon. I don’t spin. They’d just see straight through me.”

Fans adore their connection to Wilder, his lack of artifice. “We play in a modern way and the players get as much as anybody in terms of technology and modern thinking,” Wilder says. “It annoys you sometimes; we played three at the back before Chelsea. At the same time, if they pull out of a tackle, they’re getting smashed. If they don’t run around, they’re getting smashed. We’re real.”

Wilder describes it as the “human touch,” but it is natural, too. Appointed in the summer of 2016, he became Sheffield United’s eighth permanent manager in six years. His first four games? No victories and a defeat to Crewe Alexandra in the EFL Cup. His fifth was at Millwall, the numbness of an 89th-minute penalty and another defeat. They were not playing badly, “but it mounts and the pressure grows,” Wilder says.

He looked around the dressing room. “I’ve been in the game since I was 16 and you can’t kid me,” he says. “I knew the players were putting everything into it. They were hurting. They just needed a break. Back on the coach, we passed a shop close to Millwall, we stopped, I pulled £100 out of my back pocket and said ‘get some beers, boys’. I think a few of them were taken aback.”

It propelled them forward; Sheffield United went 15 league games unbeaten. “I quite like those moments when people are looking at you,” Wilder says. “I was back at my hometown club, no wins, my head on the block, my bollocks. Sometimes it’s enjoyable when things aren’t going right and people doubt you, when there’s a minefield to get through. You stick your chest out and show what you’re about. That’s what I want in my players.”

His history at the club helped. Advised by Paul, his father, he had turned his local club down as a kid, joining Southampton as a trainee, but when he was released at 19 and his “world caved in,” Sheffield United still wanted him. Neither of his two spells as a defender there were wholly blissful — “I didn’t play as many games as I would have liked,” and “heart over head,” respectively, he says — but there were promotions and insight and relationships.

“I still knew people at the offices, the club shop, the academy, the training ground, when I joined as manager,” Wilder says. “It gave me an understanding about what was happening and what supporters were craving. People might ask ‘is that a big issue’, but, yeah, it is. Certain teams have a . . . I don’t like the phrase, but a DNA, a vision of how they want to play.

“Everybody wants their players to run around. Every fan wants their players to compete. But a ball over the top at Sheffield United, getting chased down by a centre forward and the centre half kicking it out of play, would probably get a bigger cheer than a Cruyff turn on the halfway line. I knew what a powerful tool it could be to get them onside. At its loudest and most vibrant, Bramall Lane is hostile. That’s what we’ve tried to recreate.”

His roots at the stadium amplify joy and despair. “It feels bigger when you win, although whoever I’ve worked for, I’ve thrown myself into it,” Wilder says. “I don’t know any manager who doesn’t feel the pain of defeat or the elation of winning. But there isn’t any escape here. At home, you can be in the room but not there. You drift. My wife looks at me and says ‘you’ve got footballs in your coconut’. That’s how she’s puts it. Just got to keep winning, haven’t I?”

All things considered, he is pretty good at it, although his path has not been strewn with rose petals. Management began at Alfreton Town, then continued with Halifax Town, newly relegated from the Football League. “Where do you start?” Wilder says. “We didn’t have any training kit, no balls, no players, no staff, no pre-season fixtures. There was nothing there. Nothing at all. But you could shape it.”

He stayed for six years, taking them into the play-offs, but Halifax were liquidated in 2008. Existence had been perilous. “We were getting wage deferrals at Christmas, coaches not turning up for away games, the training ground not getting paid for,” Wilder says. “We’d give out cheques to players and there would be a mad rush to get them cleared because if you left it until the late afternoon, there was a possibility they’d bounce.

“I had times when my credit card was declined at the supermarket. I never earned enough money as a player to say, ‘yeah, that’s me done’. You’ve got to deal with it. Other people in my family have been through stuff like that, plenty do. I’ve no divine right. You get on with it. I don’t want to be too deep about it, but it’s like when people go on strike. What do they do? Do they cave in or do they keep going?

“It was survival more than anything. You don’t look any further ahead than that. But there’s a great saying: tough times don’t last forever, but tough people do and I had a real good upbringing as a kid. I had the disappointment of being released, but I got myself a career out of football. Disappointment is what happens to you. Halifax was tough, but it was also a brilliant experience.”

There were another six years at Oxford United, a promotion out of the National League, and then two at Northampton Town, where they rose to League One. More financial turmoil. “The players were okay because the PFA backed them, but the staff weren’t getting paid, the person in the club shop wasn’t getting paid, the secretary and the commercial manager,” Wilder says.

“I didn’t get paid for three months and that was difficult, but you just live life accordingly and get on with it. I’d had first-hand experience, but you tell yourself it’s very rare that clubs die these days and you hope that things sort themselves out, which they did. We didn’t lose any money.”

By comparison, Sheffield United is a doddle, although there are complications which cloud the club’s present and future. A dispute between Kevin McCabe and Prince Abdullah Bin Mosaad Bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, who each own 50 per cent of the club, will be resolved in court, which has had repercussions in terms of funding and team strengthening. It is a remarkable situation for a club which has designs on the Premier League.

“I’m sure both owners would say for something like this to be settled in a courtroom is not ideal,” Wilder says. “It’s something I can’t do anything about. It doesn’t impact my job on a daily basis, but it impacts the club’s direction. Planning and structures have to be put on hold. It doesn’t stop us wanting to win games and there’s a saying in Sheffield about trying to get a pint out of a half-pint pot.

“It will be interesting to see what happens in the lead up to January, to see what the attitude will be. Me and supporters would say ‘there’s a pot there at the end worth £190 million’, but it ain’t my dough or my decision. I’d like us to be a bit more ambitious and for those differences to be sorted out, but If that’s not the case, we’ll give it our best shot.”

He has already secured one promotion. “It was absolutely amazing, for myself and for the family,” he says. “We knew we were up with six games to go and still won all those games. It was outstanding. Was I surprised? Yes, because we were probably half-cut we’d been out that many times! It was an achievement that they managed to get their boots on and run around. Every time they were out, I was out, too.”

At 51, Wilder has signed a new contract. It “couldn’t get any better,” than reaching the Premier League with his club, although he is conscious that he is unlikely “to be here for ten or 15 years. I don’t think that happens now. I’m just trying to maximise it as much as possible while I’m here.” Can they do it? “A hell of a lot of things have to go right for us,” he says. “If we do, it would be incredible.” And definitely worth another bus journey, this time open-top.
First sentence of paragraph two. Please note, Wilder is a Blade man not a Blades man. Well done to The Times.
 
I agree we should be signing players and that if they’re not going to back Wilder, who would they back? But it’s still possible they back Wilder and it doesn’t work out. Although I’ll believe it when I see it because they’re in dispute and one of them will lose the club. And whoever wins will have to deal with not having the Brooks money next season, which means they’ll either have to put a load of money in (mmm) or sell other players.

Wilder will have to balance between what we need now and whether that will detract from what we’ll need next season if we don’t go up. Probably without knowing who’s going to be in charge or what they’re prepared to invest. So, almost impossible.

I don’t think I’d fancy his job.
Only thing Id say is if we don't go up this year I think there's at least a 50/50 chance we lose Wilder, Fleck and JOC. Which is why January is so important.

Whichever of Stoke, West Brom, Forest, Boro (if they dont go up)and whoever comes down most wants a new manager may well be in for Wilder
 
They spent loads of money last January window with Wilder getting EVERY target.
Im expecting the same this January, as I said though I don’t think 6 or 7 million is going to buy 100% guaranteed top quality.
Never know we might push the boat and extend to 10 million but I doubt it.

Wilders last 3 signings of McGoldrick, Egan and Norwood have been excellent, much better than expected
And i’m hoping that CW can repeat this, suspect his signings will be a little underwhelming but hopefully like with the others they’ll be better than expected. The other option is to loan a fairly big name in the PL and pay out loads towards his salary.
Well seeing as the signing of Egan, McGoldrick and Norwood cost a combined fee of about 6 or 7 million im inclined to think that would buy 100% guaranteed top quality! ;)
 
Got to go for it in January. The stars are aligning. Invest approx £12m (£6m per owner) and it could well get us over the line. Low - Medium Risk: Very High reward. If they have the necessary resources then now’s the time to have a go at this.
 
Got to go for it in January. The stars are aligning. Invest approx £12m (£6m per owner) and it could well get us over the line. Low - Medium Risk: Very High reward. If they have the necessary resources then now’s the time to have a go at this.
Exactly so. Otherwise can't we all sell raffle tickets like the time we bought Glynn Hodges ?
 
I'm not talking about gambling

when he leaves because we haven't got any money/neither owner is willing to gamble more

I think there's at least a 50/50 chance we lose Wilder, Fleck and JOC

I still think you don't know what makes CW tick, he craves success but builds success with a team of dedicated players not prima donnas.

If he is 'given' 20 million and spends it on one 'individual' that player will also want £ 40K a week on wages which will then upset the team wage balance, building a team is a balancing act.

Did Chris Wilder walk away from Northants when he was unpaid for 12 weeks ?
 

Only thing Id say is if we don't go up this year I think there's at least a 50/50 chance we lose Wilder, Fleck and JOC. Which is why January is so important.

Whichever of Stoke, West Brom, Forest, Boro (if they dont go up)and whoever comes down most wants a new manager may well be in for Wilder
It’s quite possible. I wonder if that’s why he’s wanting to go shit or bust and publicly asking for backing; he either gets us up or leaves.

The uncertainty over ownership must concern him, particularly if the Prince takes over. Will he install Van Winckel as DoF? Would his days be numbered?

It makes long term planning almost pointless.
 
It’s quite possible. I wonder if that’s why he’s wanting to go shit or bust and publicly asking for backing; he either gets us up or leaves.

The uncertainty over ownership must concern him, particularly if the Prince takes over. Will he install Van Winckel as DoF? Would his days be numbered?

It makes long term planning almost pointless.

Can Wilder sack the board?

Lets have proper progress.
 
God I love that man. The BEST thing to happen to us in my 25 years as a Blade. Don't think I'd be able to stop myself from embarassingly fanboying at him if I saw him on a bus. If he takes us up this season he needs a statue in the car park. 200ft high with one foot on either side of the entrance gate, a bottle of peroni in one hand and a trophy in the other.

Whatever happens between now and when he eventually departs, I think I'll always looks back on this as a lifelong high point of being a Blade.

One of our own.
 
The really important thing with articles like this, combined with us managing to stay in the top 2 or 3 until Christmas, is that the players with the character that we want will want to come and play for us (Tufty).

There aren’t many bosses quite like him as a manager, let alone as a football strategist - if there is a good possibility of combining him as your boss with going with us into the Prem, then real football guys will look beyond just going to the highest bidder.

You can really feel the magic growing - and I’m now ignoring past disappointments - the past is just that.
 
The really important thing with articles like this, combined with us managing to stay in the top 2 or 3 until Christmas, is that the players with the character that we want will want to come and play for us (Tufty).

There aren’t many bosses quite like him as a manager, let alone as a football strategist - if there is a good possibility of combining him as your boss with going with us into the Prem, then real football guys will look beyond just going to the highest bidder.

You can really feel the magic growing - and I’m now ignoring past disappointments - the past is just that.
 
Got to go for it in January. The stars are aligning. Invest approx £12m (£6m per owner) and it could well get us over the line. Low - Medium Risk: Very High reward. If they have the necessary resources then now’s the time to have a go at this.

Spending three times our transfer record in one window is only low-medium risk?

The club runs at a serious loss doesn’t it? We’d have to be very sure it’d get us over the line.

I still think half of that on one decent striker will be plenty as long as our key players don’t get anything more than minor injuries.
 
I wonder if Chris heads straight for the top deck on the bus, front row?

Best spot IMO.
 
Got to go for it in January. The stars are aligning. Invest approx £12m (£6m per owner) and it could well get us over the line. Low - Medium Risk: Very High reward. If they have the necessary resources then now’s the time to have a go at this.

Except.....

 
anyone who comes in after chris leaves has a hell of a job on.

what a guy!
 
Except.....



Messy. Really don’t trust the Prince’s intentions and not particularly fond of our club being connected to the Saudi royal family.

Hope McCabe manages to see him off in court. He’s made some awful decisions in his time with us, but I don’t doubt his intentions.

Don’t think this bodes well for January.
 
I still think you don't know what makes CW tick, he craves success but builds success with a team of dedicated players not prima donnas.

If he is 'given' 20 million and spends it on one 'individual' that player will also want £ 40K a week on wages which will then upset the team wage balance, building a team is a balancing act.

Did Chris Wilder walk away from Northants when he was unpaid for 12 weeks ?
Ok. But if we don't invest we aren't going to keep getting better. Basham, Duffy, Clarke, Sharp, Stearman and McG are 30+. It's not a death knell but it's unlikely they will all continue to be as good as they are now.

Wilders stock is almost as high as it can be. If we regress next year it will naturally fall. He's fiercely ambitious. I don't believe he will stay here unless we back him.

I could be wrong. But we'll see
 

It’s quite possible. I wonder if that’s why he’s wanting to go shit or bust and publicly asking for backing; he either gets us up or leaves.

The uncertainty over ownership must concern him, particularly if the Prince takes over. Will he install Van Winckel as DoF? Would his days be numbered?

It makes long term planning almost pointless.
We really need to get promoted! I think the current amazing run might come crashing to a halt if we don't.
 

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