Time to smell the coffee and stop kidding yourself that united will go up.

[yorkshirecoast]

Remind me if I'm ever in a trench anywhere on earth, not to call on you lot...

Jesus Christ.

I stuck up for us on Tue - & got slaughtered by some - but I can't defend the spineless crap that was served up today. Zero quality and perhaps more worryingly, zero passion or urgency. We could not ask for anything more than Oldham & Tranmere at home but on both occasions we (or rather the team) have totally fcked it up. The pigs are an average team but we seem determined to give it to them on a plate.

 

[Foxy]

So you're not at all concerned that in the space of less than a month, we've gone from being 5 points clear, with 2 games in hand, to being above 3rd on goal difference, on the same number of games?

Of course I am, but I didn't speed all the way home from Colchester to get on here and delight in us dropping 2 points.

The pigs are an average team but we seem determined to give it to them on a plate.

I take it no-one occupied 2nd place before we moved into it? Or does it only work one way?

 

[alcoblade]

It a matter of truth. Nothing perverted. Just being realistic. Yes we were favorites but just look at how we have fallen. Just look at the list of teams we should of beaten at look at the list who we have lost to in the top 6. Simply not good enough. But if you want to live in your fantasy that everything at united is rosy, then continue but the real world will just pass you by.

What's the point of encouraging the players when they don't give anything back or take it in.
So maybe we should pretend that we are going to win the league, win the championship and be in europe in 5 years time. But we all now t ain't going to happen so why waste energy as it doesn't get us any where.

If football fans were flowers, you'd be a field of pansies.

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Prediction Wednesday 4 Walsall 1

I now reckon Wednesday could win the league. Jones will be really determined and I think we have messed up big time. That Oldham game has totally fucked the season.

Although its possible a win at County is an absolute must. I don't expect it but it's a must, otherwise it's the play offs.

The Pigs wont win every game, we know that, but honestly they are on a real roll and we are garbage at the moment. McDonald can't come back quick enough - but it could be too late.

Yep, I think it's three thid division wins on the bounce now isn't it. Unstoppable I'd say. In fact, If we were Barca, I'd start planning for a future with no prospect of winning the Champions League.

UTB

 

[Jonboy60]

Typical Blade fans....................

Weve lost 9 all season yet Wilson isnt right for the job, only 2-3 weeks ago we was in 2nd place with 2 games in hand and already 2 points clear and you loved him, he was the bets man for the job etc.

Don't know what you'd be like if you supported Wednesday. Jheez

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Yeah we'll be lucky to finish top half, what must we be this season then, because we have certainly exceeded your expectations of "lucky to finish top half"

bloody helljl94 did you actually read my quote all the way through.

 

[oldblade]

Of course I am, but I didn't speed all the way home from Colchester to get on here and delight in us dropping 2 points.

Colchester away is a tricky fixture in this division and one that I thought we might lose. I viewed the draw as a good point gained. The only disappointment was not holding onto the lead.

I think most on here would have been happy with that point, but unfortunately it came during the week after the Oldham debacle with the knock on consequences at Walsall. Coupled with Wednesday's sudden upturn in form the point didn't look quite as good as it would otherwise have done.

If we had done what we should have done against Oldham and then got anything at all from Walsall (which I believe we would have done had our entire back 4 not been missing) our return of 5 points from the last 3 games would have been seen as pretty satisfactory.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Remind me if I'm ever in a trench anywhere on earth, not to call on you lot...

Jesus Christ.

To be fair if I was in a trench, I probably wouldn't call on united either

 

[dingledog]

Just remember, its the blades way, it's never going to be easy. I'm not going to wembley!!

 

[Foxy]

Colchester away is a tricky fixture in this division and one that I thought we might lose. I viewed the draw as a good point gained. The only disappointment was not holding onto the lead.

I think most on here would have been happy with that point, but unfortunately it came during the week after the Oldham debacle with the knock on consequences at Walsall. Coupled with Wednesday's sudden upturn in form the point didn't look quite as good as it would otherwise have done.

If we had done what we should have done against Oldham and then got anything at all from Walsall (which I believe we would have done had our entire back 4 not been missing) our return of 5 points from the last 3 games would have been seen as pretty satisfactory.

I'm not particularly disagreeing with you. Though during and after the game it felt a bit like 2 points thrown away. My point was, that I wasn't in some kind of rose tinted daze as regards our recent form

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

I can't believe what I'm reading in this thread.

Jesus Christ.

 

[alcoblade]

The other day I argued against United being any more pessimistic than other fans. I stand by it, but my word there's some right pussies on S24SU.com...

UTB

 

[oldblade]

I can't believe what I'm reading in this thread.

Jesus Christ.

Which bits?

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Which bits?

Nearly all of it.

They're probably laughing at us.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

We started the season with promotion in our hands (though not many on here fancying it to stay that way) and here we are 37 games later with promotion still in our hands.

Blades more pessimistic than any others? Don't know about that, but what I do know is that there seems to be a group of 'supporters' on here who only seem to appear when things have gone a bit pear-shaped. Good victory and they never seem to post, but a slight slip and they're all over it like a rash.

More enjoyment in the club they follow cocking-up than celebrating any sort of triumph it seems. Why bother??

 

[Ferenc Blade]

All we hear is Blah Blah Blah.

Be reight.

 

[Rodley]

Some of the fucking stuff posted on this thread is utterly shameful.

Who are these no-marks who get a fucking hard-on when we go through a wobble. Seriously, fuck off else where.

 

[super_pig]

everyone needs to man up.. grow a pair and FIGHT

 

[Bladesway]

When you go through something big yourself, you realise how trivial all this is.

1) This is a forum for opinion, no more no less. Each point equal.
2) United will put us all through the wringer. Whether we like it or not.
3) We might go up, we might not. Whatever, hopefully most of us will live through it and move on.

FFS get some perspective. Theres 9 games left and we are in 2nd place. Theres a very good chance we could take 2nd. We could (if we sort ourselves out) actually win this division. Charlton are all over the shop right now. We get our act together and we could go up Champions. Listening to most on here we didn't have a chance at this at promotion (mid table was the mantra).

And you know what, if we don't go up automatically, theres always the play offs. And if we miss out this season we will have to go give it a shot next season. And if not, then the season after. Thats how it works. Its never changed.

The club has a good manager and is assembling a decent squad of players. We are playing decent football for the first time in christ knows how long. Hopefully it will take us up, but some breaking news for you all, if it doesn't then we will have to strip it down and start again.

Where is the book that says promotion is easy? Where and when did a team just breeze up? Every promotion campaign I can remember has a "oh thats us fucked then" moment in it. Even when we won 4th Division it wasn't over until the last game of the season. It looks like we strolled it but trust me there were brown trousers along the way.

Its brilliant. Its what makes you realise you are actually alive. Competitive inter city rivallry just adds to the mix. Keep the faith with DW, because he is the man who has got us here, and I believe he will get us over the line one way or another.

 

[GlosBlade]

If it wasn't pretty much an apparent straight fight with Wednesday for the 2nd place I don't think the reaction would be so extreme. I must admit to being down in the dumps tonight (same old United, we always screw up etc) but its 10 times worst because its the owls on our shoulders. Its not all over yet, we clearly need to regroup and pull out a big performance at County. We are definitely having a wobble but its still all to play for.
And I must admit if it is to be the playoffs then I really really don't want it to be against wednesday so would prefer them or us in the automatic slot (treason I know). But as one or two have mentioned the wheels seem to be coming off at Charlton as well so who knows how this is all going to end !

 

[kingston RAWW]

I would have taken this at the start of the season.
9 games to go and we are ahead of the feathered t**ts. Its us or them. Bring it on.

 

[blade too long]

of course we should all run round like headless chickens
weve fucked up big style, losing 26 games on the trot like that

 

[mpjacko]

Some of the fucking stuff posted on this thread is utterly shameful.

Who are these no-marks who get a fucking hard-on when we go through a wobble. Seriously, fuck off else where.

Lets all pretend were in the PL and that KM never makes any mistakes. But the fact I live in the real world means that were in league 1, lost 3 easy games against teams bottom of the league, hardly beaten any of the top six teams and even there are 9 game to go, no one knows where the next win is going to come from.

If we can't beat the likes of Oldham, Tranmere and Walsall, how on earth are we going to beat Chesterfield, Rochdale and Exeter. We ain't going to beat Notts county, MK Dons and Stevenage on current form which leaves Hartlepool, Bournemouth Leyton Orient who have nothing to play for to get our wins.

I think the most depressing thing at the moment which is why I give all this negativity is the position united were in a month ago. As many point out, we were 8 point clear but now we are only in 2nd due to goal difference. We have lost our aurora from being a big side in league 1. Teams were scared of playing us but this is no longer the case. Just think were we could of been had we won those easy games, challenging for 1st position.

 

[BladeFisher]

Lets all pretend were in the PL and that KM never makes any mistakes. But the fact I live in the real world means that were in league 1, lost 3 easy games against teams bottom of the league, hardly beaten any of the top six teams and even there are 9 game to go, no one knows where the next win is going to come from.

If we can't beat the likes of Oldham, Tranmere and Walsall, how on earth are we going to beat Chesterfield, Rochdale and Exeter. We ain't going to beat Notts county, MK Dons and Stevenage on current form which leaves Hartlepool, Bournemouth Leyton Orient who have nothing to play for to get our wins.

I think the most depressing thing at the moment which is why I give all this negativity is the position united were in a month ago. As many point out, we were 8 point clear but now we are only in 2nd due to goal difference. We have lost our aurora from being a big side in league 1. Teams were scared of playing us but this is no longer the case. Just think were we could of been had we won those easy games, challenging for 1st position.

Top post. It amzes me just because some of us are realists we are castigated as traitors! Ffs its the players that get the results not the fans. United have banjaxed it big time - but they can still redeem it. But they just have to win on Tuesday if they want auto promotion, because it is all about momentum. In 2003 we screwed up in the play off final because we didn't have momentum. Every play off we have been in we have coasted into it, never driven in and powered on and the writing is on the wall this time.

I'll spell it out for our happy clappers FOR FUCK SAKE UNITED GET YER BLOODY FINGER OUT NOW!!

 

[kezzablade]

I expected nothing from this season and the fact we are 2nd (just), playing decent footy and not hoofing around mid table has given me hope. BUT maybe we are not as good as we think we are? Having a shit hot striker will always boost a decent side to punch above their weight. We are a good team but just not the finished artical and if somebody had said we would make the playoffs at the start of the season I would have been delighted.
Sitting in the auto spot has rasied my expectations but if it does all go wrong, at worst we make the playoffs and I will thank DW for that because I expected pretty much nothing positive from this year....

 

[Bladesway]

What amazes me is football is so much about keeping the right players fit and playing. Some people seem to think this is down to someones fault. DW or somesuch. The transformation from a team of useless hoofers to a team that can actually play football is something of an achievement in itself. If that gets us up this season I would say thats amazing. It can take 3-4 seasons to transform like we have.

Get McDonald fit, keep ched playing as much as possible and the chances of promotion go up.

 

[yorkshirecoast]

Get McDonald fit, keep ched playing as much as possible and the chances of promotion go up.

Unfortunately, if we don't go up this season I can't see us keeping Ched - and I dread to think where we'd be without him.

 

[alcoblade]

I think the most depressing thing at the moment which is why I give all this negativity is the position united were in a month ago.

Previous mistakes hae been done to death. Right now we're second and have our playmaker about to return. We're all really disappointed about our recent drop off in form. So now we're in for a fight. The most depressing thing is that we have bollockless depressing fans like you. And you were spouting such crap way more than a month ago.



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Unfortunately, if we don't go up this season I can't see us keeping Ched - and I dread to think where we'd be without him.

Hoskins scored 22 for a relegated club last season. Losing Evans would be a blow, but there's life beyond him, and it doesn't cost a quarter of our gate income to support.

UTB

 

[Karaoke Blade]

Remind me if I'm ever in a trench anywhere on earth, not to call on you lot...

Jesus Christ.

Was just thinking the same! I've had it with the negativity on this site.

 

[Deadbat]

Forum thoughts

Was just thinking the same! I've had it with the negativity on this site.

The thing is though most of it is realism. United mess it up time after time. You can see what is going to happen. All this 'we are second we still have in our hands' will probably be replaced by 'we are only 5 points behind and there is still 7 games to go We would still do it' or words to that affect. I am all for optimism but surely even the most ardent Blade realises at the crucial time our performances have gone to pot as has our results? Maybe it will turn around but at the moment I dont see anythng to suggest this group of players has enough to win say 6 or 7 of the last 9 games.

My belief in that this team is capable of going up is not there partly based on it is United and we always seem to blow it but is mostly based on the complete lack of spine of most of the team as evidence last season and now this year.

It was not necessarily about the result for me yesterday although that was not great; it is the fact that the effort for me and will to win was not there. In the last 3 home games we have seen teams come here and have a real go and as a result get results (or nearly in case of Scunthorpe). Teams have sadly realised we are not that good and if they have a go at us they can score and get results at the Lane.

As an aside all this 'would not want you in the trenches' is utter rubbish. This is a forum - how is fans coming on and putting views going to affect the players or what we do? I got behind the team yesterday and felt for the most part the crowd was supportive; Kop sang well for long periods. As others have said I certainly dont think the fans were massively negative at the game yesterday.

If fans want to come on here and vent frustrations or say what they think - then that is fine whether they are positive or negative. If fans want to come on and say they think we will go up and we will turn it around then that is fine but those who dont think that will happen dont deserve to be lambasted for expressing opinions?

I personally have paid good money for the last few years and seen the likes of Simonsen, Doyle, Collins, Quinn, Williamson, Cresswell etc get very good wages and they have contributed massivelt to getting the club relgated (along with some poor managers granted) and now once again are threatening to throw it away again but all are still pikcing up ver good money (fair bet we still have boggest wage bill in the division). If I want to analyse the faults on a message board unsure how that makes somone less of a fan or somone who does not want them to do well?

 

[blade too long]

"united mess up from time to time"

of course we do
but


we are 2nd so surely that means all them below us have and will do

lets try and do what the pros do, one game at a time, not throw our arms in the air and panic

believe it or not, we are still in the box seat, we win our games no one can stop us
only mass defeatism will stop us

 

[Highbury_Blade]

We won't win all of our remaining games. Neither will wednesday or Huddersfield win all of their remaining games. By the chesterfield game we should be back to full strength.


All we have to do is get more points than they or Huddersfield do. Pretty simple really.