They should admit

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I refuse to believe that all the players have somehow forgotten how to play now the season has started. Preseason was with Selles and pretty much the same players at a couple. We scored what, 19/20 goals and had a plan.

Now what? The players have forgotten it? They need to learn something new and can’t be arsed now?

I don’t buy this preseason and open level nonsense, preseason is to work on a system and figure out your best 11.

Selles needs the right tools and plan sure, but these players aren’t exactly putting a shift in.
 

I'm not fully writing him off but it takes something to make Hamer look completely anonymous.

System is not working for this team at all.

We did have some chances 2nd half and Millwall had some luck there. But really cannot say it was down to luck.

He's been dealt a poor hand to start with but he's also showed inexperience in handling an undercooked squad.
 
This is squarely on the head of anyone calling for Wilder to be replaced. Congrats
Not really

Wilder needed to go

Selles possibly/probably isn’t the answer, but neither is CW

Want to give him time, but we’ve scored 1 goal in losing to 3 teams we should beat

Seem to recall one of the board talking about failing fast…..

Cooper in before next game if we’re accepting Seles isn’t right
 
This is squarely on the head of anyone calling for Wilder to be replaced. Congrats
I will always say Wilder was sacked due to messing up the biggest opportunity for the new owners.
The play off final proved Wilder can not win big games.

A change was needed but yeah it seems they got it wrong with Selles.
 
Not really

Wilder needed to go

Selles possibly/probably isn’t the answer, but neither is CW

Want to give him time, but we’ve scored 1 goal in losing to 3 teams we should beat

Seem to recall one of the board talking about failing fast…..

Cooper in before next game if we’re accepting Seles isn’t right
Completely agree with this, move on from Wilder but this just isn’t right. Cut your losses now & get rid
 
I'm not fully writing him off but it takes something to make Hamer look completely anonymous.

System is not working for this team at all.

We did have some chances 2nd half and Millwall had some luck there. But really cannot say it was down to luck.

He's been dealt a poor hand to start with but he's also showed inexperience in handling an undercooked squad.
Thought hamer played really well second half
Was the only one to show some bollox
 
There are several good reasons wilder was sacked

Selles may not be the answer, but that doesn’t mean wilder is

Where were florist when cooper took over other year?

Several good reasons he should have stayed also...

At this point the gamble on the 50/50 should he stay or should he go, for the wild appointment of an unproven manager with no track record of promotion seems absolutely scandalous and this has lost the fanbase, would appear to have destroyed any momentum, tanked the mood inside the dressing room and is on course sink any chance of an automatic promotion push...

But hey ho, several good reasons to get rid of a manager who is proven, had a good season and had the club in a positive position for another go at it?
 
If I was the board I would be on a plane to the UK tonight and ordering everyone in tomorrow and kicking some arse.

But for all those saying what rid?
Who would you bring in? And don't say Wilder FFS.

There needs to be a plan.
Why wouldn't anyone say Wilder??? I don't get the hate for the guy from some in our fanbase. Genuinely. He's one of our most successful managers ever. Didn't get us promoted last season... OK... disappointing... but sacking him and then appointing a guy with no promotions and no track record on his CV is bonkers. Selles is way, way, waaaaaay out of his depth here. Wilder wouldn't be.... but I acknowledge that there are others who wouldn't be either. Selles is jus just a massive mistake and, despite thinking he shouldn't even be here, I feel for the bloke.

These owners created the most toxic atmosphere the day they sacked Wilder... with no coherent plan.
 
We played much better in second half but how did the manager set up like that in the first half ….board need to replace Selles
 

There are several good reasons wilder was sacked

Selles may not be the answer, but that doesn’t mean wilder is

Where were florist when cooper took over other year?
Just out of interest were these reasons he was sacked actually worth sacking him, bearing in mind he'd done well last season?

It was a huge gamble which thus far has totally back fired. If they'd sacked Wilder and appointed someone with a proven record then I wouldn't mind as much. I might add I really like Selles but I'm starting to lose hope after just three games. We should be doing better with these players. If Selles does go it best not be Gary Oneil! He was their second choice it seems and he's another with a very unproven record.
 
I was worried about his stats before I was made aware of him coming in ,, what a disastrous choice this has been, in our history
theres now 2 points of equal worst decisions in our history

letting Don Givens take a penalty
appointing some nobody with a useless record to change direction from amassing 92 points
to looking like the 16 points we got the season before last looks attractive
 
Didn't help himself playing the same midfield what leaves us wide open in first place. Needs to go and get someone in who knows what they're doing
 
Just out of interest were these reasons he was sacked actually worth sacking him, bearing in mind he'd done well last season?

It was a huge gamble which thus far has totally back fired. If they'd sacked Wilder and appointed someone with a proven record then I wouldn't mind as much. I might add I really like Selles but I'm starting to lose hope after just three games. We should be doing better with these players. If Selles does go it best not be Gary Oneil! He was their second choice it seems and he's another with a very unproven record.
Think it was losing PO final, straw & camels back etc

Owners will accept antics, singing pissed up slagging off a fellow manager, turgid football, brining in holding then playing JLT😂
if the desired outcome is reached.

That decision was right

This decision seemingly isnt

Fuck me pressures on next one
 
If I was the board I would be on a plane to the UK tonight and ordering everyone in tomorrow and kicking some arse.

But for all those saying what rid?
Who would you bring in? And don't say Wilder FFS.

There needs to be a plan.
Steve cooper. Think we’d should have gone for him in first place
 
Honestly feel like somebody successfully cursed us before the playoff final. Should have won that and now every keeper is having worldies against us, every bounce goes to the opposition and we have inexplicably regressed as a team in terms of individual performances.
 
Why wouldn't anyone say Wilder??? I don't get the hate for the guy from some in our fanbase. Genuinely. He's one of our most successful managers ever. Didn't get us promoted last season... OK... disappointing... but sacking him and then appointing a guy with no promotions and no track record on his CV is bonkers. Selles is way, way, waaaaaay out of his depth here. Wilder wouldn't be.... but I acknowledge that there are others who wouldn't be either. Selles is jus just a massive mistake and, despite thinking he shouldn't even be here, I feel for the bloke.

These owners created the most toxic atmosphere the day they sacked Wilder... with no coherent plan.


Who's hating on the guy?

At what point do we need to move on?

Ans whos to say that he will come back?
 

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