The World Cup

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[CaptainMorgans]

I don’t think it’s the coach, I think it’s the players. As Wilder has alluded to when talking about the way we sit deep once we take the lead. He says that isn’t the instruction, the players just do it. I think it’s definitely a mentality thing. But I understand why people choose to crucify Tuchel because accepting the reality isn’t very pleasant.

I agree that there's nuance.
I don't think Tuchel told the players to defend on our six yard line, but his substitutions certainly will have had a psychological impact on the players. They weren't positive.

If he'd sent on Saka and Rashford it would have given everyone a lift. We're in front and we're going for the jugular.
If Argentina pin us back, we have an escape route, an out ball to get us up the pitch.

 

[SwissBlade]

I don’t think it’s the coach, I think it’s the players. As Wilder has alluded to when talking about the way we sit deep once we take the lead. He says that isn’t the instruction, the players just do it. I think it’s definitely a mentality thing. But I understand why people choose to crucify Tuchel because accepting the reality isn’t very pleasant.

I’ve already said the coaches game plan was spot on until we scored.

The coach made the decision to bring on 3 defenders before Argentina scored.

Whether he gave instructions to them to mark players and stop crosses, I don’t know.

Argentina were a smaller team but the decision to use such a defensive policy and bring on more height instead of physicality is a mentality thing from the coach.

The players, in my view were hung out to dry based on Tuchel decisions. He didn’t bring on a ball carrier until Argentina had scored two. He didn’t bring on a physical midfielder to combat the 88% possession and 2 completed passes from England, he chose to defend and wait it out…

The instruction may not have been to sit deep, but the result of the changes gave almost no other options.

Bravery would’ve been to trust the process and bring in like for like players and not expose the side like that against the World Champs

 

[Nick Jansky]

I’ve already said the coaches game plan was spot on until we scored.

The coach made the decision to bring on 3 defenders before Argentina scored.

Whether he gave instructions to them to mark players and stop crosses, I don’t know.

Argentina were a smaller team but the decision to use such a defensive policy and bring on more height instead of physicality is a mentality thing from the coach.

The players, in my view were hung out to dry based on Tuchel decisions. He didn’t bring on a ball carrier until Argentina had scored two. He didn’t bring on a physical midfielder to combat the 88% possession and 2 completed passes from England, he chose to defend and wait it out…

The instruction may not have been to sit deep, but the result of the changes gave almost no other options.

Bravery would’ve been to trust the process and bring in like for like players and not expose the side like that against the World Champs

I’ll stick by my own view of why there’s only ever been one trophy, and that was on home soil. And I think Tuchel was spot on with his comment about the inability of players to hold on to the ball.

I’ve heard the excuse about the EPL being so awash with overseas players that England managers only have a small pool to pick from compared to similarly sized nations, but there’s a reason for that, and it’s the same reason that so few English players make it in La Liga or other major leagues.

It’s an opinion, but if you think that, per capita, the quality and mentality of English players are on a par with those of other nations, fair play, we can disagree.

 

[Eddiecolquhounsleg]

I’ve said it before, but when O’Reilly came on in the 82nd minute he clearly mouthed, ‘4-5-1’ so this must have been an instruction from Tuchel, rather than a decision by the players on the pitch to sit back.
I don’t think the blame should be attached to the players, it’s Tuchel’s fault, and his alone.

 

[South stand tut]

I’ll stick by my own view of why there’s only ever been one trophy, and that was on home soil. And I think Tuchel was spot on with his comment about the inability of players to hold on to the ball.

I’ve heard the excuse about the EPL being so awash with overseas players that England managers only have a small pool to pick from compared to similarly sized nations, but there’s a reason for that, and it’s the same reason that so few English players make it in La Liga or other major leagues.

It’s an opinion, but if you think that, per capita, the quality and mentality of English players are on a par with those of other nations, fair play, we can disagree.

Not winning the world cup / Euros is a price im prepared to pay not to have to watch Spanish/ Italian style league football every week.

 

[Upton_Blade]

I’ve said it before, but when O’Reilly came on in the 82nd minute he clearly mouthed, ‘4-5-1’ so this must have been an instruction from Tuchel, rather than a decision by the players on the pitch to sit back.
I don’t think the blame should be attached to the players, it’s Tuchel’s fault, and his alone.

I definitely don't have the time or energy to go back through your posting history but if that's the case then surely CW should shoulder the blame for our issues with trying to be too defensive over the last couple of seasons shouldn't he?

I mean we have posters on here claiming it's the players and not CW.

 

[Klaatu Barada Nikto]

I’ve said it before, but when O’Reilly came on in the 82nd minute he clearly mouthed, ‘4-5-1’ so this must have been an instruction from Tuchel, rather than a decision by the players on the pitch to sit back.
I don’t think the blame should be attached to the players, it’s Tuchel’s fault, and his alone.

He might have said that, but it was more like 8-2-0

 

[Silas]

Feels like this comes down to mentality. England look more likely to crack under pressure.