The Times today-Yes is the

[FriethBlade]

 

[Alex Cheeseright]

Was.......well half is. Can you guess which half?

 

[derbysufc]

Both clubs have huge support but no serious investment .
Blades are used to sell young talent on. Wednesday have no young talent.
Both clubs attract approx 60k a week home games , what other clubs or city without success could achieve that ?
We are solid loyal supporters not glory hunters . The day a football loving multi millionaire wakes up sees a club attract 32k a week supporters without a major trophy is the day he got lucky .

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

I don't know about the "...to watch football?" bit. Sheffield is a miserable place; it was when I was a kid and it's got worse since. The football clubs are a perfect reflection of the state of the city.

 

[Steelcitysenior]

Sheffield has always been shite at attracting investment, status of a City but run as a small town.

 

[Sheffsteel]

I don't know about the "...to watch football?" bit. Sheffield is a miserable place; it was when I was a kid and it's got worse since. The football clubs are a perfect reflection of the state of the city.

I think what doesn't help is the continuous comments from loads of Sheffielders who support United and Wednesday

"We don't want to play in the PL because it's corrupt and we have no chance"
"So would much prefer to be in the Championship, that's proper football/ proper fans and more our level".

You even see comments like "would hate to be like Man City....it's just not us"
and "if we ever moved to a fancy stadium like the Spurs stadium I'd stop going"
Sheffielders prefer cheapness (best value) over quality in almost everything.

Often wondered if the above are the reason that put off anyone with ambition buying either Sheffield club.
It's because they don't believe the Sheffield fans have the same ambition to match there's.

 

[originaltrueblade]

Nowt wrong we Sheffield it’s special

 

[fleckagainagainagain…]

In terms of attracting investment and vision, it’s annoying but understandable how we have dropped behind all these London satellite towns in the south east, given how much they dominate the economy over the last ~30 years.

But I can’t really fathom why Sheffield has also lost out to the likes of Leicester, Burnley, Leeds, Wolverhampton, Stoke, Newcastle, Nottingham, Birmingham… why have they all got big investment? what do they have that Sheffield doesn’t???

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

I think what doesn't help is the continuous comments from loads of Sheffielders who support United and Wednesday

"We don't want to play in the PL because it's corrupt and we have no chance"
"So would much prefer to be in the Championship, that's proper football/ proper fans and more our level".

You even see comments like "would hate to be like Man City....it's just not us"
and "if we ever moved to a fancy stadium like the Spurs stadium I'd stop going"
Sheffielders prefer cheapness (best value) over quality in almost everything.

Often wondered if the above are the reason that put off anyone with ambition buying either Sheffield club.
It's because they don't believe the Sheffield fans have the same ambition to match there's.

It's the downtrodden, "muck n' nettles" attitude that seems to be hard-boiled into folk like it's coded into their DNA. It's tedious and I was desperate to escape it.

 

[Brian Deane]

How long will it be before the clubs are merged if they both become unsustainable in the future ?

 

[I should coco]

It's the downtrodden, "muck n' nettles" attitude that seems to be hard-boiled into folk like it's coded into their DNA. It's tedious and I was desperate to escape it.

Well done you!

Ever thought that there might be some positives, to the 'muck and nettles' that your parents and grandparents showed?

 

[Keen Blade]

In terms of attracting investment and vision, it’s annoying but understandable how we have dropped behind all these London satellite towns in the south east, given how much they dominate the economy over the last ~30 years.

But I can’t really fathom why Sheffield has also lost out to the likes of Leicester, Burnley, Leeds, Wolverhampton, Stoke, Newcastle, Nottingham, Birmingham… why have they all got big investment? what do they have that Sheffield doesn’t???

City councils as opposed to village idiots

 

[Keen Blade]

How long will it be before the clubs are merged if they both become unsustainable in the future ?

Both would rather die than merge - of all the progressive things that the clubs and the Council continually fail to do , that is top of the list.

 

[Frank the tank]

It's the downtrodden, "muck n' nettles" attitude that seems to be hard-boiled into folk like it's coded into their DNA. It's tedious and I was desperate to escape it.

i dont think its a muck and nettles attitude more a ' its the blades way ' attitude
completely ignoring anything positive that has ever happened and always expecting the worst
real losers mentality must rub off on the players and its only when we get strong characters in who are the antithesis of this that they drag the club along with them including its simpering lick spittle fan base

 

[Keen Blade]

Sheffield has always been shite at attracting investment, status of a City but run as a small town.

Bang on.
In our case , look at what the Council did to Brearley when he wanted to create a super stadium at the Lane

 

[I should coco]

Bang on.
In our case , look at what the Council did to Brearley when he wanted to create a super stadium at the Lane

Often used as a stick to beat the Council with, but knowing how things ended up with Reg, I don't think it would have been that 'super'.

He used to say it was because of his politics, but the way things ended must make people question how likely, real development ever was.

The Council deserve plenty of shit, but not for this.

 

[Steelcitysenior]

Often used as a stick to beat the Council with, but knowing how things ended up with Reg, I don't think it would have been that 'super'.

He used to say it was because of his politics, but the way things ended must make people question how likely, real development ever was.

The Council deserve plenty of shit, but not for this.

The council have always been more sympathetic to our neighbours, no airport, no electric rail network even the tram routes are shit.

 

[Programmechap2]

Often used as a stick to beat the Council with, but knowing how things ended up with Reg, I don't think it would have been that 'super'.

He used to say it was because of his politics, but the way things ended must make people question how likely, real development ever was.

The Council deserve plenty of shit, but not for this.

The perennial reminder that Brealey appealed to.the Tory government against thr Council s decision and the government backed the council.

Given that I'm sure the government would have loved to.help one of their supporters and do down a left wing Council,I can only conclude political bias had nothing to do with it.

 

[Sheffsteel]

How long will it be before the clubs are merged if they both become unsustainable in the future ?

Only an owner with massive ambition and vision to create a super club would seriously suggest to merger.
However a "superclub" would be hated in Sheffield, 95% of Sheffielders would say they'd rather watch their team in the National league
rather than watch a Sheffield super club having some of the best players in the world competing regularly in the Champions League.

 

[alcoblade]

It's the downtrodden, "muck n' nettles" attitude that seems to be hard-boiled into folk like it's coded into their DNA. It's tedious and I was desperate to escape it.

I’m glad you did.

 

[Nick Jansky]

It's the downtrodden, "muck n' nettles" attitude that seems to be hard-boiled into folk like it's coded into their DNA. It's tedious and I was desperate to escape it.

You’re not missed.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

For me it's Bradford. Crowds of 17k while mid table of league two. They don't even have their rugby league side doing well anymore!

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

I’m glad you did.

So am I.

 

[CornwallBlade]

As an example, the Shared Prosperity Fund, a domestic replacement for EU investment funds is now nearly 2 years into a 3 year window for spending it or losing it back to the treasury. Councils all over the country have lapped up £millions to invest in improving local infrastructure and services. South Yorkshire combined authority spend? Zip

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

You’re not missed.

I’m well aware.

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

i dont think its a muck and nettles attitude more a ' its the blades way ' attitude
completely ignoring anything positive that has ever happened and always expecting the worst
real losers mentality must rub off on the players and its only when we get strong characters in who are the antithesis of this that they drag the club along with them including its simpering lick spittle fan base

I was referring to the wider Sheffield populace, but as both clubs reflect the plight of the city so well, it’s hard to differentiate. The “stop pissin’ abaht, lump it forrad” brigade have such low expectations and it’ll never change

 

[Champagneblade]

Quite funny how both won!

Wednesday still have much to do but then most games in the Championship can go either way.

I can see us picking up some unexpected points in the next few. There seems some renewed belief.

 

[JJ Sefton]

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I reckon it’s Glasgow. You’ve got all that sectarian rage projected onto what is basically pub football.

 

[Tezza1889]

I reckon it’s Glasgow. You’ve got all that sectarian rage projected onto what is basically pub football.

It absolutely isn't Glasgow..

It's not this side of Sheffield either..

Taking a punt it's Chezzy, Rotherham, or Donny in this area, but who prints that non story.

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

Nowt wrong we Sheffield it’s special

“Special”? Like the kid down the street that’s called “special” because he didn’t stop pissing the bed until he was twelve?