The Rebuild

[Frank the tank]

We are going to need a new manager whether or not we win the playoffs if we want to move forward and be more successful. We need to move away from the need to have a supporter as the manager, in my opinion.

I agree wholeheartedly
I think every time we lose we should sack the manager and get a new one in
In fact if we are two goals down in a game then why wait?

 

[Maltby_blade]

Given this will be our 10th attempt, yes, pretty much.

Not really sure what relevance previous failures have when none of the current players or management were involved in any of them??

 

[jt64]

I love how people are repeatedly saying such and such a player is "not fit enough" ignoring that we live in a five substitution era and game planning for someone to just go for 60-65 and then being subbed off every game is a perfectly viable strategy. I'm sure that's exactly what Ferguson did with Park nearly 20 years ago

 

[Carlton Blade]

I love how people are repeatedly saying such and such a player is "not fit enough" ignoring that we live in a five substitution era and game planning for someone to just go for 60-65 and then being subbed off every game is a perfectly viable strategy. I'm sure that's exactly what Ferguson did with Park nearly 20 years ago

That's fine unless the player who can't do 90 at a consistent level is your best creative player by a ling distance

 

[mancunianblade]

Reckon we will go up and keep the following

Hamer
Souza
Anel

New contract for Brewster

Davies and Robbo will get a golden handshake

I’d forgot about Shackleton

We will make a bid for BBD

Wilder will stay on

 

[jt64]

That's fine unless the player who can't do 90 at a consistent level is your best creative player by a ling distance

True, but you just need to be aware of your players' limitations. Some people simply cannot play 90 minutes at the level they play at, and that is not necessarily a fault. If anything, for many positions it is the rule rather than the exception. Far better to have someone play what they can in every game, rather than push the limits and end up with someone missing multiple weeks with a soft tissue injury. And, let's be frank, assuming you are referring to Hamer, if he had the tank to go 90 in the PL every game, that's likely where he would be and he wouldn't be our player in the first place

 

[Carlton Blade]

True, but you just need to be aware of your players' limitations. Some people simply cannot play 90 minutes at the level they play at, and that is not necessarily a fault. If anything, for many positions it is the rule rather than the exception. Far better to have someone play what they can in every game, rather than push the limits and end up with someone missing multiple weeks with a soft tissue injury. And, let's be frank, assuming you are referring to Hamer, if he had the tank to go 90 in the PL every game, that's likely where he would be and he wouldn't be our player in the first place

Fair. Also, that 1st half v Leeds showed that there is a way to attack without him. We've just refused to use it

 

[Blademan89]

Who in their right mind is taking Shackleton? Or RND? Or T Davies?

Be happy for them to be paid up tbh absolute waste of a wage and place in squad.

 

[Lane Ender]

How do you know he hasn’t got a clue ?

We lost three on the bounce against sides we should be walking through I’m not going to go on about starting line ups and tactics it’s all been said win two out those three and get a point at Burnley where again he was found out we are in it.

 

[TJ blade]

We are going to need a new manager whether or not we win the playoffs if we want to move forward and be more successful. We need to move away from the need to have a supporter as the manager, in my opinion.

Bloody hell! Mate your pushing your luck with the bladey blades group

 

[Matlock Blade]

Don't worry, I think Wilder will stay until Christmas.

 

[Lane Ender]

Don't worry, I think Wilder will stay until Christmas.

If we don’t win the playoffs he’s gone

 

[Lane Ender]

We lost three on the bounce against sides we should be walking through I’m not going to go on about starting line ups and tactics it’s all been said win two out those three and get a point at Burnley where again he was found out we are in it.

 

[Norwood's 6 iron]

Reckon we will go up and keep the following

Hamer
Souza
Anel

New contract for Brewster

Davies and Robbo will get a golden handshake

I’d forgot about Shackleton

We will make a bid for BBD

Wilder will stay on

Whilst I hope you are right about going up, there's certain things that I can't agree with.
Brewster needs to go, BBD isn't the player he was and would be a poor buy.
Anel only plays if we buy a commanding left sided central defender.
Burrows desperately needs a decent player alongside him, his performance levels have dropped off alarmingly over recent games.
Right back remains a problem.
One other point, in the play offs don't play any loan players unless there is no alternative. It will mean a lot more to the players that we know will be here next season.

 

[mancunianblade]

Whilst I hope you are right about going up, there's certain things that I can't agree with.
Brewster needs to go, BBD isn't the player he was and would be a poor buy.
Anel only plays if we buy a commanding left sided central defender.
Burrows desperately needs a decent player alongside him, his performance levels have dropped off alarmingly over recent games.
Right back remains a problem.
One other point, in the play offs don't play any loan players unless there is no alternative. It will mean a lot more to the players that we know will be here next season.

Not saying this is the list of things I want, just what I expect tbh. I just cant see the club forking out what they did for Brewster to cut their losses when he gets a run of games and shows a glimmer of what he's capable of.

If that's all that's required for Anel then so be it, why let him go when we need a commanding centre half anyway? It just doubles the recruitment efforts.

 

[1889]

It’s interesting how so many know the full extent of the clubs available finances and how much of it the owners are prepared to spend in order to strengthen the squad?

I am obviously out of the loop, because I have absolutely no idea who we can afford and how much we would be prepared to pay a player in wages?

It’s certainly enlightening to get the inside track, but I wouldn’t imagine the new owners will be very pleased once they realise that they already have a security leak in the boardroom

 

[Pedro's Winger]

Not really sure what relevance previous failures have when none of the current players or management were involved in any of them??

We said that for the previous 9.

 

[Norwood's 6 iron]

Not saying this is the list of things I want, just what I expect tbh. I just cant see the club forking out what they did for Brewster to cut their losses when he gets a run of games and shows a glimmer of what he's capable of.

If that's all that's required for Anel then so be it, why let him go when we need a commanding centre half anyway? It just doubles the recruitment efforts.

Just can't see the point of offering Brewster another contract, sometimes you just have to cut your losses and let players go.
Unless I've missed something our new owners have been remarkably quiet.
Do you think there is the possibility that no matter the result of the play offs that we will have a new management team in for the start of the season.

 

[Norwood's 6 iron]

Our biggest failure was losing all 4 games against the top two.
As Wilder has said we are third best in the league, we now have three games to prove it.

 

[loyalblade95]

Whilst I hope you are right about going up, there's certain things that I can't agree with.
Brewster needs to go, BBD isn't the player he was and would be a poor buy.
Anel only plays if we buy a commanding left sided central defender.
Burrows desperately needs a decent player alongside him, his performance levels have dropped off alarmingly over recent games.
Right back remains a problem.
One other point, in the play offs don't play any loan players unless there is no alternative. It will mean a lot more to the players that we know will be here next season.

BBD, it depends on what position he will play if we sign him, if it was for LW or ST, I'd happy to sign him if we got promoted as those are his stronger preferred positions, but not if we don't get promoted.

That option is meant to be £10m, and unless we are promoted, I can't see us activating the option and spending £10m on 1 player in the Championship.

We could get 2/3 better players in for that sort of money.

 

[Sean Thornton]

It’s interesting how so many know the full extent of the clubs available finances and how much of it the owners are prepared to spend in order to strengthen the squad?

I am obviously out of the loop, because I have absolutely no idea who we can afford and how much we would be prepared to pay a player in wages?

It’s certainly enlightening to get the inside track, but I wouldn’t imagine the new owners will be very pleased once they realise that they already have a security leak in the boardroom

Any link to the posts/posters you’re referring to?

I may have missed them all but l can’t actually recall anyone saying that.

 

[mancunianblade]

Just can't see the point of offering Brewster another contract, sometimes you just have to cut your losses and let players go.
Unless I've missed something our new owners have been remarkably quiet.
Do you think there is the possibility that no matter the result of the play offs that we will have a new management team in for the start of the season.

I don’t see why we would. people seem to forget that it was the new owners that gave wilder a new contract.

I’ve not enjoyed this season and I find his Pashtun and petulance tedious at times but the points tally is impressive and any other season it would be enough for autos?

 

[wizadry]

Any link to the posts/posters you’re referring to?

I may have missed them all but l can’t actually recall anyone saying that.

There’s a few saying we can’t afford such and such player if we don’t get rid of a few of our players but nobody knows who we can and can’t afford at this stage even with or without players staying or going, I just think it was a light hearted dig and realisation that no fucker knows who we can and can’t afford at this early stage of the boards tenure ST, I could be wrong but that’s how I interpreted it anyway.

 

[Maltby_blade]

We said that for the previous 9.

So what are you saying then?, that we are just destined to never win one . We will do it at some point and theirs absolutely no reason to think this season can’t be it, we are the best team in the playoffs and have nothing to fear from any of the other 3 we will come up against.

 

[robbiez666]

Be happy for them to be paid up tbh absolute waste of a wage and place in squad.

RND and Shackleton have 2 years and Davies have one year left. left. Let's say that's a combined £60k pw and you're looking at over £5 million to pay them up.

 

[wizadry]

Regardless of the division we are in I think the rebuild could be bigger than almost all of us think, we don’t know what the boards plans are. I have a feeling they’ll be thinking long and hard about how we’ve gone about this second half of the season after the money they’ve paid out.

I personally think the playoffs are huge for us and especially Wilder, it could get a huge weight of everyone’s shoulders by finally winning the bleeding things, anything could happen after that!

 

[Carlton Blade]

I don’t see why we would. people seem to forget that it was the new owners that gave wilder a new contract.

I’ve not enjoyed this season and I find his Pashtun and petulance tedious at times but the points tally is impressive and any other season it would be enough for autos?

48 points and a +21 gd from the first 22 games. On course for 100 points and a +44 gd
38 points and a +4 gd from the next 22 games, despite huge investment in January. That would work out at 79 points and a +8 gd over a full season.

I'm not sure the new deal protects him. Also, the reason the top 2 have so many points is the rest of the league is under performing. The top 2 have a gd of +106. The next 10 teams combined are only at +61, of which United and Sunderland make up +42. 3 of the top half have a negative gd.

 

[1889]

Any link to the posts/posters you’re referring to?

I may have missed them all but l can’t actually recall anyone saying that..

Is that Charlie Hughes? If so, not a chance we can afford him

We are going to have to use the loan market wisely next season as there will be at least 4 sides in The Championship with more money to spend than us,

Steve Cooper has managed to get a side promoted using the loan market to it’s utmost so that’s another tick in his box when looking for a replacement manager.

Hopefully quietly in the background contact has already been made with potential managerial targets.

 

[BrisBlade]

If we don't go up I would love to revert to two strikers and see One and Campbell as our #1 option. Both quick, strong, decent in the air. As a CB I would hate to play against them as a two.

I would also keep Tom Davis. He's looked good when he played. Not sure what his current injury is. With him, Blaster, Peck, and Vini (if he stays) we should have the tools and depth to dominate CM.

 

[Carlton Blade]

1889 Hull sold Jacob Greaves for £18m+ . Hughes is better on the ball than Greaves and equally as good defensively.