The "Pigs"

[Tynemouth Blade]

That really annoys me reading that.

"I never heard any United fan refer to us as the pigs until the late 90's." -

Lie... I've always known them as pigs, in all my 32 years.

"
It's another copy cat thing they do...it's up there with.

'Hark now hear
United sing
Wednesday ran away
And we will fight forever more
Because of Boxing Day'

Actually hearing them sing this makes me chuckle..".....

Why do THEY need to fight for Boxing Day? They won. We will fight for ever more to avenge that defeat.. How do they not understand that?

Thick as PIG SHIT as my Grandad would say!

 

[I should coco]

Why do THEY need to fight for Boxing Day? They won. We will fight for ever more to avenge that defeat.. How do they not understand that?

We were singing it within weeks of the dreaded event. We copied it from Spurs, who'd lost to Arsenal the same day.

The S6 massive didn't start singing it until a few seasons later and certainly they weren't singing it at BDTBL for the Easter rematch.

Short memories and small brains.....

 

[Geordie Blade]

Why do THEY need to fight for Boxing Day? They won. We will fight for ever more to avenge that defeat.. How do they not understand that?

It was sung before (i.e. in the run-up to) that match, by both sets of fans.

 

[Jesus_was_a_Blade]

A favourite quote of mine that seems pretty apt;

"Arguing with an idiot is a lot like wrestling a pig. You both get dirty and, after a few hours you realise... the pig likes it."

 

[Deaneandagana]

Apologies for the source - but I think this answers the question

http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/122668-the-pigs/

 

[madeinsheffield]

It's another copy cat thing they do...it's up there with.

'Hark now hear
United sing
Wednesday ran away
And we will fight forever more
Because of Boxing Day'

Actually hearing them sing this makes me chuckle..".....

Why do THEY need to fight for Boxing Day? They won. We will fight for ever more to avenge that defeat.. How do they not understand that?
[/QUOTE]

I've argued the exact same point with a pig, waste of time as they only listen to themselves

 

[Jesus_was_a_Blade]

Porktalk give this version: http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/157264-why-do-the-blades-call-us-pigs-seriously/
Sheffield Forum this (albit Pig, sorry Wednesday bias!): http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=220235
And our very own S24SU forum gave us this debate way back: http://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/the-original-pigs.18486/

Some of the stuff on that Owlstalk is comical beyond words...

However I do now feel the need for some sort of decontamination shower after venturing into that cesspool of delusion.

 

[I should coco]

It was sung before (i.e. in the run-up to) that match, by both sets of fans

GB

I think you are wrong. As I said, it was a Spurs song we copied.

The only thing I can remember that we sang before, was "Bring on the Wednesday" - that worked out well for us......

 

[COME BACK CHED]

Stocksbridge Rugby club have actually embraced insult and nicknamed the team the pigs , this takes the piss out of all childish Sheffield fans , however it is still pretty obvious there are lots of pork butchers around their ground , although not so many left , because of all the supermarkets now

 

[Jehovah]

I remember one of them calling me a pig once. I was the bigger man and just left him... laying there.

 

[knowsnowt]

Just turn it on him by insisting we are indeed the pigs and they've stole it from us. Penny to a pound he'll immediately say they were called it first.

 

[Bladesway]

 

[I should coco]

Just smack the fucker next time he does it.

I've put my glasses on and read the speech bubbles on your profile pic - nice one!

 

[Chief_Froley]

However I do now feel the need for some sort of decontamination shower after venturing into that cesspool of delusion.

Somehow deleting my browser history wasn't enough after I ventured on it... if only I could have spent my time on something less shameful like tentacle porn!

 

[northsomersetblade]

The Sea of Grunts

 

[Dkc]

The Wednesday football club was formed on 4th September 1867. The football club first played its games at the Olive Grove Sports Ground in Heeley before moving to a new stadium in the Owlerton district of Sheffield. The first Ordnance Survey maps (1850's) mark a building close to where the stadium now stands as 'Swine Cottage'. They also show another farm on Penistone Road, south of where the North Stand is situated, which was also believed to be a large piggery. Pork farming is thought to have been practised in the area since the early 1800's, and did not cease until around 1900 when the city's rapid expansion put an end to livestock production in the area. At its height the "Owlerton Piggery," as it was known, provided work for some 50 employees.

Initial discussions about a nickname began soon after the Wednesday arrived at Owlerton. In reference to their new home, most club officials were in favour of "The Owls." However, another suggestion was also popular. In view of the area's strong tradition of pork farming, a popular grass-roots alternative was "The Pigs." Although the name "Owls" prevailed, many working class supporters continued to refer to their team as "t'pigs." A popular song of the time "They may be t'Owls to some, (but they'll always be pigs to me)" was performed in music halls across South Yorkshire. As late as the 1920's, fans used to welcome their team onto the field with the characteristic grunting sound we still associate with the club. This peculiarity was once referred to by BBC commentator Edward Milburn, who famously described Hillsborough as a "sea of grunts" moments after The Wednesday won the First Division title in 1932.

 

[Geordie Blade]

GB

I think you are wrong. As I said, it was a Spurs song we copied.

The only thing I can remember that we sang before, was "Bring on the Wednesday" - that worked out well for us......

Ah, fortunately I'm unable to accurately recall the events of 26 December 1979.

 

[Dellas Cowboys]

Threaten to send Esablade in to bore him to death...

should that be "boar" him to death

 

[Houston_Blade]

Now then.

I've done a quick search and can't spot any threads discussing this so my apologies if I've missed it (I'm relatively new).

I wanted to try and get something cleared up, that's essentially been the bane of my life on an almost daily basis since I started a new job in March.

There's a lad at work who's a big Wednesday fan, and aside from the occasional banter he does something that really pisses me off.

He grunts like a pig when I come to see him, and regularly calls me a pig, an oinker, pink and white baconer etc. This all came to a head recently when I told him that although it's a term I never use, Wednesday are actually the pigs, and not united, which stems from the Hillsborough ground being built on old farm land.

This was obviously debunked on the spot, and the counter claim was that Wednesday have always called United "The Pigs" and that we basically started copying them.

I can't seem to find any references online regarding the validity of the Pig Farm theory, only vague references to old posts on the Sheffield Forum where the same debate has been had several times.

So, can anyone clear it up? Who are "The Pigs"? Or is it simply that we both call it each other?

I don't mean to cause any offense in this post, so if any has been taken I apologise.

ekke

Just complain to HR and get the knobber sacked.

 

[The Crab]

Just complain to HR and get the knobber sacked.

I wouldn't trust an HR department to pour warm piss out of a boot if the instructions were on the sole.

 

[Tynemouth Blade]

A favourite quote of mine that seems pretty apt;

"Arguing with an idiot is a lot like wrestling a pig. You both get dirty and, after a few hours you realise... the pig likes it."

Or:
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

The Wednesday football club was formed on 4th September 1867. They also show another farm on Penistone Road, south of where the North Stand is situated, which was also believed to be a large piggery. Pork farming is thought to have been practised in the area since the early 1800's,

You can still get a good roast pork sandwich next to the ground on Penistone Rd. If you're late you have to settle for the boiled ham.

 

[Kop Cat]

We call it them, they call it us, who gives a shit, if it`s bugging you warn the piggy twat then deck the cunt if it continues.

 

[BushBlade]

That really annoys me reading that.

"I never heard any United fan refer to us as the pigs until the late 90's." -

Lie... I've always known them as pigs, in all my 32 years.

"
It's another copy cat thing they do...it's up there with.

'Hark now hear
United sing
Wednesday ran away
And we will fight forever more
Because of Boxing Day'

Actually hearing them sing this makes me chuckle..".....

Why do THEY need to fight for Boxing Day? They won. We will fight for ever more to avenge that defeat.. How do they not understand that?

I can remember them being pigs for longer than that.

I have been told the fight for ever more thing is related to an incident following the match where some of the SRA chased a bunch of their boys through Hillsborough Park.

 

[Barney]

Hillsborough was built on a pig farm and way back it genuinely used to be a tradition for all their fans to fucking grunt like pigs when their team ran out onto the pitch.

 

[Weasel]

I can recall my old man referring to the day after Tuesday as the Pigs in the very early eighties. Dont recall him calling them that beforehand. So it must have been a phrase used at that time at least. Cant say who used it first as i also recall my next door neighbour (nice bloke who played football with me and was a decent amateur footballer) being a fair weather pig fan who used to refer to Utd as the pigs too in a light hearted fashion. I used to call him a Wendy pig, he called me a Utd piglet. I didnt take it personally as i remembered two important facts. The first being that i (and my old man) were right and he was a nice but ignorant piggy fool, and the second being that i was about to 'accidentally' spill a pint of blackcurrant juice all over his nice new settee and light wool carpet (they didnt have any kids) after i had chopped away at his shins in the 'kick a pig' knockabout in his back garden.

I was smart and he was the dumb pig. I was just nasty with style.

 

[blade too long]

Wednesdays team coach was supplied by Hoggs in the early days and obviously one thing led to another
but Leppings Farm which covered most of the area the area where the ground was built was known to keep pigs, when Wednesday bought the ground it was outside the city boundary which was after hillsborough hall , gifted as hillsborough park to the city , the boundary was parkside road, most of wadsley was littered with pig farms as was olive grove where wednesday had previously encamped.
To this day an island in the river at owlerton is called swine island

 

[Hackblade]

Call me old fashioned, but to me we are Unitedites and Wednesdayites, or Blades and Owls. All this 'you're the pigs', 'no, you're the pigs' nonsense is embarrassing.

 

[Weasel]

Call me old fashioned, but to me we are Unitedites and Wednesdayites, or Blades and Owls. All this 'you're the pigs', 'no, you're the pigs' nonsense is embarrassing.

Maybe to you it is my old friend. No issue at all if you dont want to lower yourself to a bit of old fashioned banter, and give and take, but to me it was all non serious banter and all a bit of light hearted fun. Maybe they didnt have banter in the 'good old days' my old fashioned friend.

 

[blade too long]

wednesday fans arent that bright
they call themselves massive
but still sing about a win in a division 3 game from 37 years ago
dont hear man city fans singing about any of their division 3 games
and how can they call themselves a superior team having only one league double over us in the past 100 years

just doesnt make sense