The only thing duller than Sat-di's performance ......

[Ollessendro]

...... is reading the over the top, fickle shite that is served up on here after we fail to win. The knee jerk, over the top reactions are sooooo boring. Funny that no one was slagging of Wilson and the players after a 'massive' result against promotion rivals Tranmere on Friday evening or the rest of the weekend. Yet a disappointing result and the end of the world is nigh. It's truly pathetic seeing 18 differents threads all saying the same garbage.

I know that Blades fans are a cynical and pessimistic bunch, but writing us off is just daft. Our home form is very worrying and we may indeed stumble into the play offs, but to just pack up now and say it is finished is ridiculous. All of a sudden Donny, Brentford and Bournemouth are invincible and we are shite. There is some fantastic cherry picking of results and form to show why we are going to fail. Our average points for the season is 1.7 per game, in the last 10 games we have won 6, drawn 3 and lost 1. As dull as it has been it is promotion form. Yet apparently we are not going to win any of the next 4 games.

There will be twists and turns, shocks and surprises and it will go down to the wire. Apparently we should not bother turning up in Walsall on Sat-di, yet we have won 5 of our last 6 away games and barring Stevenage only conceded one goal. Perhaps Crawley might not park the bus and we could see an open game. Same for Swindon and Brentford who will need to win. Neither Bournemouth or Brentford will win all their games. Nor will we. But it is far from over.

Maybe it is sumert to do with the weather. Perhaps it is that Sheffielders are a fickle bunch. It is certainly sumert abart SUFC's being cynical, pessimistic and negative. However it is fooking boring. The doom mongery on here is beyond belief.

 

[Ollessendro]

whoops - Mon-di's performance

 

[Darren]

...... is reading the over the top, fickle shite that is served up on here after we fail to win. The knee jerk, over the top reactions are sooooo boring. Funny that no one was slagging of Wilson and the players after a 'massive' result against promotion rivals Tranmere on Friday evening or the rest of the weekend. Yet a disappointing result and the end of the world is nigh. It's truly pathetic seeing 18 differents threads all saying the same garbage.

I know that Blades fans are a cynical and pessimistic bunch, but writing us off is just daft. Our home form is very worrying and we may indeed stumble into the play offs, but to just pack up now and say it is finished is ridiculous. All of a sudden Donny, Brentford and Bournemouth are invincible and we are shite. There is some fantastic cherry picking of results and form to show why we are going to fail. Our average points for the season is 1.7 per game, in the last 10 games we have won 6, drawn 3 and lost 1. As dull as it has been it is promotion form. Yet apparently we are not going to win any of the next 4 games.

There will be twists and turns, shocks and surprises and it will go down to the wire. Apparently we should not bother turning up in Walsall on Sat-di, yet we have won 5 of our last 6 away games and barring Stevenage only conceded one goal. Perhaps Crawley might not park the bus and we could see an open game. Same for Swindon and Brentford who will need to win. Neither Bournemouth or Brentford will win all their games. Nor will we. But it is far from over.

Maybe it is sumert to do with the weather. Perhaps it is that Sheffielders are a fickle bunch. It is certainly sumert abart SUFC's being cynical, pessimistic and negative. However it is fooking boring. The doom mongery on here is beyond belief.

For once. I am in complete agreement with you. All this talk about sacking Wilson with 7 games to go when we are in with a very good chance of promotion is beyond comical.

Did you see my post by the way showing that we have the best record of ajny of the top 6 playing each other

 

[raul]

It's scoreboard journalism isn't it Ollie?

 

[Balham]

While we shouldn't hide away from the fact that Monday's performance was unacceptably poor (and so too, by all accounts, were the MK Dons and Orient games) I still think we'll get automatic promotion.

United fans probably aren't being overly critical of our own team but what a lot of posters do seem guilty of, in my view, is over-estimating how good the rest of the top 8 teams are. It's a poor division with no one side any better than the rest. Bournemouth might win their last four games but they're just as likely to lost them all. Doncaster look capable of not winning in their last 5. Swindon seem to have lost their belief without Il Porco Fascista. Tranmere have sunk. Brentford can't buy a win away from home. Yeovil are buoyant at the moment but what if they lost 3-0 on Saturday? What if we go to Walsall and play them off the park?

Keep the faith Blades. We'll need it next season.

 

[Caveblade]

...... is reading the over the top, fickle shite that is served up on here after we fail to win. The knee jerk, over the top reactions are sooooo boring. Funny that no one was slagging of Wilson and the players after a 'massive' result against promotion rivals Tranmere on Friday evening or the rest of the weekend. Yet a disappointing result and the end of the world is nigh. It's truly pathetic seeing 18 differents threads all saying the same garbage.

I know that Blades fans are a cynical and pessimistic bunch, but writing us off is just daft. Our home form is very worrying and we may indeed stumble into the play offs, but to just pack up now and say it is finished is ridiculous. All of a sudden Donny, Brentford and Bournemouth are invincible and we are shite. There is some fantastic cherry picking of results and form to show why we are going to fail. Our average points for the season is 1.7 per game, in the last 10 games we have won 6, drawn 3 and lost 1. As dull as it has been it is promotion form. Yet apparently we are not going to win any of the next 4 games.

There will be twists and turns, shocks and surprises and it will go down to the wire. Apparently we should not bother turning up in Walsall on Sat-di, yet we have won 5 of our last 6 away games and barring Stevenage only conceded one goal. Perhaps Crawley might not park the bus and we could see an open game. Same for Swindon and Brentford who will need to win. Neither Bournemouth or Brentford will win all their games. Nor will we. But it is far from over.

Maybe it is sumert to do with the weather. Perhaps it is that Sheffielders are a fickle bunch. It is certainly sumert abart SUFC's being cynical, pessimistic and negative. However it is fooking boring. The doom mongery on here is beyond belief.[/quote

Its interesting talking to other fans, spoke to a Brentford fan yesterday, no points over the weekend, thought their season was collapsing. Also spoke to a Tranmere fan, I could hear the wrists being slit in the background.

As has been said, it is a crap division and it will twist and turn with every round of games until the end of the season.

The constant analysis of forthcoming matches is a waste of time and energy, the only thing that matters is the next match we play. A win on Saturday and the sun will be out again!!

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

I can appreciate the fact that the home fans have been starved of wins lately and the so called 'better' performances have been away from home. I can't comment on Monday as (fortunately) I missed it but was the performance significantly worse than Tranmere ? We came away from Tranmere with a fantastic 3 points achieved with a fluke of a goal. Other away wins have been no better than some of the home performances but we've got the goal and pinched it.

From what I've seen, we've pretty much played at a similar level all season, it's just that the majority of wins have come away from home. Was Wilson a great manager on Saturday night and worthy of the sack on Monday, course not.

 

[WYorksblade]

plenty of time for a few more twists and turns as you say.
tranmere were walking the league not too long ago and now sit in 7th!

 

[Grecian2000]

Sadly Ollie I think that the first paragraph of that OP is just bollocks.

The "over the top" reaction isn't about a 0-0 draw against Carlisle (I remember George McVitie stealing them a last minute winner circa 68/69 which was far worse) but a unique run of three 0-0 home games, all with less than inspiring performances, all against eminently beatable teams and all absolutely DULL AS SHIT.
In fact it was so dull I haven't been able to muster enough enthusiasm to even post anything at all about it until this thread (for Gods sake, even BTL didn't think it was acceptable by the look of a couple of his posts).

Fickle? After three of the most tedious back to back at home matches in years? Don't make me laugh, they are lucky so many people have a) season tickets and b) the belief that it might just get better, otherwise the performances on offer would mean sub 10,000 crowds for the rest of the season. The fact that we will get 18k for them all says how fickle we really are.

Will we go up? Maybe, it's still in our hands. Will we go up playing the next 4 home games like we played the last 3? I don't think we will. Will we go up if our next 4 games result in just 1 goal in our favour? No, we definitely won't.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

I can appreciate the fact that the home fans have been starved of wins lately and the so called 'better' performances have been away from home. I can't comment on Monday as (fortunately) I missed it but was the performance significantly worse than Tranmere ? We came away from Tranmere with a fantastic 3 points achieved with a fluke of a goal. Other away wins have been no better than some of the home performances but we've got the goal and pinched it.

From what I've seen, we've pretty much played at a similar level all season, it's just that the majority of wins have come away from home. Was Wilson a great manager on Saturday night and worthy of the sack on Monday, course not.

"We came away from Tranmere with 3 points achieved with a fluke of a goal." Thats the best I've seen us play under Wilson which goes to show how crap we are.

Was Wilson a great manager on Saturday night and worthy of the sack on Monday. Been sackable all season because what I've seen has been dross.

Apologies to all for expecting more.

 

[Ted Danson]

"We came away from Tranmere with 3 points achieved with a fluke of a goal." Thats the best I've seen us play under Wilson which goes to show how crap we are.

Was Wilson a great manager on Saturday night and worthy of the sack on Monday. Been sackable all season because what I've seen has been dross.

Apologies to all for expecting more.

So you obviously didnt go atall last season then?

 

[JohnDenver]

The quality of player we have is the prime reason I'm forgiving of the management this season. I think we're doing well in the circumstances, even if home games are a form of purgatory.

Just as a point of interest, check out the quality in the Forest squad that was extraordinarily lucky to get out of this league recently. They sneaked second after a series of daft results in the closing weeks.

Paul Smith
Luke Chambers
Wes Morgan
James Perch
Kris Commons
Nathan Tyson
Grant Holt
Scott Dobie
Will Hoskins
Garath McCleary
Chris Cohen
Lewis McGugan
Neil Lennon
Brett Ormerod

 

[Highbury_Blade]

If the ratio of away to Home games remaining were 4/3 instead of 3/4 i'd be feeling much more positive....

 

[Grecian2000]

If the ratio of away to Home games remaining were 4/3 instead of 3/4 i'd be feeling much more positive....

and if it was 7/0 I'd be starting threads about what we need to improve in order to survive in Div 2 next season.

Fact is we're stuck with trying to break teams down at our pedestrian (and I'm thinking old biddies with their mobility scooter confiscated) pace for 4 more games (that's 360 minutes or 21600 seconds).

 

[Racy]

Not just Forest ask Leeds,Stoke, Soton and even Man City how hard it is yo get out of this division

 

[cooperblade]

Top stuff Ollie, keep 'em coming.

Love sprouts, hate beetroot.

 

[Micalijo]

...... is reading the over the top, fickle shite that is served up on here after we fail to win. The knee jerk, over the top reactions are sooooo boring. Funny that no one was slagging of Wilson and the players after a 'massive' result against promotion rivals Tranmere on Friday evening or the rest of the weekend. Yet a disappointing result and the end of the world is nigh. It's truly pathetic seeing 18 differents threads all saying the same garbage.

I know that Blades fans are a cynical and pessimistic bunch, but writing us off is just daft. Our home form is very worrying and we may indeed stumble into the play offs, but to just pack up now and say it is finished is ridiculous. All of a sudden Donny, Brentford and Bournemouth are invincible and we are shite. There is some fantastic cherry picking of results and form to show why we are going to fail. Our average points for the season is 1.7 per game, in the last 10 games we have won 6, drawn 3 and lost 1. As dull as it has been it is promotion form. Yet apparently we are not going to win any of the next 4 games.

There will be twists and turns, shocks and surprises and it will go down to the wire. Apparently we should not bother turning up in Walsall on Sat-di, yet we have won 5 of our last 6 away games and barring Stevenage only conceded one goal. Perhaps Crawley might not park the bus and we could see an open game. Same for Swindon and Brentford who will need to win. Neither Bournemouth or Brentford will win all their games. Nor will we. But it is far from over.

Maybe it is sumert to do with the weather. Perhaps it is that Sheffielders are a fickle bunch. It is certainly sumert abart SUFC's being cynical, pessimistic and negative. However it is fooking boring. The doom mongery on here is beyond belief.

Not sure how many of the home games you've seen this term Ollie but you're wrong above mate - the club is truly pathetic not the people who post on here.

 

[Deadbat]

Must admit find it amusing somewhat that the fans are being labelled as full of doom, being negative and pessmistic. Is any of your post tongue in cheek? Seriously Olly?

We have been in my opinion in terms of size of city, ground size, crowds etc the least successful club in the land over my lifetime; 30 + years. Go through nearly every club of note and all have either won a cup, competed in he top division, won a play off final, JPT etc. We in reality have done nowt. Yet we continue to get 18,000 crowds +. We sell out routinely away. We get shafted time after time by a board that offers mostly at best falses promises and at worst lies. We have had poor manager after poor manager, sold nearly every decent player we have ever had and now to be frank have an awful mish - mash of players on last pay day (Kitson, Robson, Higgenbotham) to players not good enough mixed in with a few promising young players.

The games this season have been frankly dire. I will be astonished if we go up. We are still in with a chance but Monday was awful (were you there Olly by the way?). We can barely even muster a shot on goal these days and I do expect the season to peter out. Is it pessmism based on years and years of failure? Partly but it is mostly based on watching a side and a manger that has little clue how to break down and beat some utterly dreadful teams. People pay good money to watch dross and have a right to criticise some frankly appalling performances on a message board.

Hope I am wrong and this manager and team can lift us and we see an improvement but I have seen little to suggest we can up it a gear. Now with players returning to parent clubs or injured (Kitson/Poleon) we have little striking options - granted Poleon was not great; we have exactly the same situation as last season where we dont have the forward players.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Must admit find it amusing somewhat that the fans are being labelled as full of doom, being negative and pessmistic. Is any of your post tongue in cheek? Seriously Olly?

We have been in my opinion in terms of size of city, ground size, crowds etc the least successful club in the land over my lifetime; 30 + years. Go through nearly every club of note and all have either won a cup, competed in he top division, won a play off final, JPT etc. We in reality have done nowt. Yet we continue to get 18,000 crowds +. We sell out routinely away. We get shafted time after time by a board that offers mostly at best falses promises and at worst lies. We have had poor manager after poor manager, sold nearly every decent player we have ever had and now to be frank have an awful mish - mash of players on last pay day (Kitson, Robson, Higgenbotham) to players not good enough mixed in with a few promising young players.

The games this season have been frankly dire. I will be astonished if we go up. We are still in with a chance but Monday was awful (were you there Olly by the way?). We can barely even muster a shot on goal these days and I do expect the season to peter out. Is it pessmism based on years and years of failure? Partly but it is mostly based on watching a side and a manger that has little clue how to break down and beat some utterly dreadful teams. People pay good money to watch dross and have a right to criticise some frankly appalling performances on a message board.

Hope I am wrong and this manager and team can lift us and we see an improvement but I have seen little to suggest we can up it a gear. Now with players returning to parent clubs or injured (Kitson/Poleon) we have little striking options - granted Poleon was not great; we have exactly the same situation as last season where we dont have the forward players.

Great reply, sums things up a lot better than I can Deadbat.

The thing that really gets to me at this moment in time is that if we go up we need to get rid of most of a promotion winning squad/mamagement team - could only The Blades do that?

Thanks for the match reports as well.

 

[Ollessendro]

Must admit find it amusing somewhat that the fans are being labelled as full of doom, being negative and pessmistic. Is any of your post tongue in cheek? Seriously Olly?

We have been in my opinion in terms of size of city, ground size, crowds etc the least successful club in the land over my lifetime; 30 + years. Go through nearly every club of note and all have either won a cup, competed in he top division, won a play off final, JPT etc. We in reality have done nowt. Yet we continue to get 18,000 crowds +. We sell out routinely away. We get shafted time after time by a board that offers mostly at best falses promises and at worst lies. We have had poor manager after poor manager, sold nearly every decent player we have ever had and now to be frank have an awful mish - mash of players on last pay day (Kitson, Robson, Higgenbotham) to players not good enough mixed in with a few promising young players.

The games this season have been frankly dire. I will be astonished if we go up. We are still in with a chance but Monday was awful (were you there Olly by the way?). We can barely even muster a shot on goal these days and I do expect the season to peter out. Is it pessmism based on years and years of failure? Partly but it is mostly based on watching a side and a manger that has little clue how to break down and beat some utterly dreadful teams. People pay good money to watch dross and have a right to criticise some frankly appalling performances on a message board.

Hope I am wrong and this manager and team can lift us and we see an improvement but I have seen little to suggest we can up it a gear. Now with players returning to parent clubs or injured (Kitson/Poleon) we have little striking options - granted Poleon was not great; we have exactly the same situation as last season where we dont have the forward players.

I'll leave it up to your imagination as to whether I was being tongue in cheek or not. You have certainly missed the point of the post though. What I was getting at (abnd I should not really have to spell this out) is it is incredibly boring to log onto the forum on a Monday morning and see umpteen posts about how crap we are. Our record in the last 10 games is won 6, drawn 3 and lost 1. Funny it is awfully quiet when we win, yet a draw and the world is ending. It's not that United fans cannot moan, it is seeing 10 threads saying exactly the same wrist slitting stuff. "Turgid crap", "absolute garbage, "not a happy bunny", "shite loan players" and countless manager suggestions threads are just a few to name from this week and if you go back to any disappointing result and you see the same dull stuff. It is mind numbingly dull. People might say don't read and my retort is I don't.

You have basically defeated yourself in your post though DB. SUFC fans are negative, full of doom and pessimistic. This is just a fact. You make a very good point as to why (which I fully agree with) but anyone suggesting that SUFC fans are not negative is just a loon.

 

[Ted Danson]

Must admit find it amusing somewhat that the fans are being labelled as full of doom, being negative and pessmistic. Is any of your post tongue in cheek? Seriously Olly?

We have been in my opinion in terms of size of city, ground size, crowds etc the least successful club in the land over my lifetime; 30 + years. Go through nearly every club of note and all have either won a cup, competed in he top division, won a play off final, JPT etc. We in reality have done nowt. Yet we continue to get 18,000 crowds +. We sell out routinely away. We get shafted time after time by a board that offers mostly at best falses promises and at worst lies. We have had poor manager after poor manager, sold nearly every decent player we have ever had and now to be frank have an awful mish - mash of players on last pay day (Kitson, Robson, Higgenbotham) to players not good enough mixed in with a few promising young players.

But we did compete in the top division, and even though we fail every time, theres not many teams that can say they've been to Wembley 4 times and Cardif once in the last 30 years and made it to several semi finals.

Being a Blade is full of ups and downs, without the downs the ups wouldnt be as good!

 

[Grecian2000]

not many teams that can say they've been to Wembley 4 times and Cardif once in the last 30 years

BUT, you only get to Wembley/Cardiff in the play-offs because you weren't good enough to go up automatically and the only other time we "reached Wembley" was when a semi final was transferred there (i.e. before the ridiculous money grabbing decision to put all FA Cup semis there).

There was a time when to reach Wembley meant you'd made it to a Cup Final now you get there, almost by default, because we like to reward mediocrity rather more than we should.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

But we did compete in the top division, and even though we fail every time, theres not many teams that can say they've been to Wembley 4 times and Cardif once in the last 30 years and made it to several semi finals.

Good point, my Dad died age 53 in 1990 and never saw us play any big games of any note whereas 17 year old Jim Chim Jnr has seen all the games you mention bar Palace at Wembley. For the record, he's convinced we're going to screw up this season so is a fully fledged converted pessimist

 

[Ted Danson]

I see your point but to me its like if you had a race horse that kept placing but never won, it would still be better than the rest of the pack who never even place. I still class getting to the semi final of the cups as quite a good achievement too weather its at Wembley or not and there are plenty of teams who could never even dream of achieving that

 

[Darren]

Must admit find it amusing somewhat that the fans are being labelled as full of doom, being negative and pessmistic. Is any of your post tongue in cheek? Seriously Olly?

We have been in my opinion in terms of size of city, ground size, crowds etc the least successful club in the land over my lifetime; 30 + years. Go through nearly every club of note and all have either won a cup, competed in he top division, won a play off final, JPT etc. We in reality have done nowt. Yet we continue to get 18,000 crowds +. We sell out routinely away. We get shafted time after time by a board that offers mostly at best falses promises and at worst lies. We have had poor manager after poor manager, sold nearly every decent player we have ever had and now to be frank have an awful mish - mash of players on last pay day (Kitson, Robson, Higgenbotham) to players not good enough mixed in with a few promising young players.

The games this season have been frankly dire. I will be astonished if we go up. We are still in with a chance but Monday was awful (were you there Olly by the way?). We can barely even muster a shot on goal these days and I do expect the season to peter out. Is it pessmism based on years and years of failure? Partly but it is mostly based on watching a side and a manger that has little clue how to break down and beat some utterly dreadful teams. People pay good money to watch dross and have a right to criticise some frankly appalling performances on a message board.

Hope I am wrong and this manager and team can lift us and we see an improvement but I have seen little to suggest we can up it a gear. Now with players returning to parent clubs or injured (Kitson/Poleon) we have little striking options - granted Poleon was not great; we have exactly the same situation as last season where we dont have the forward players.

You are absolutely right that we are shit. Thing is though, Bournemouth, Brentford, Swindon etc are equally shit (as the league table demonstrates). Obviously, as you only watch United with such (commendable) concentration, the utter shittiness of United looms much larger to you than the comparable shittiness of our rivals.

Given the general shittiness of all the teams at the top of the third tier, I find it hard to understand why it would be astonishing to you if the particular shower of shit that is United were to go up. We have as good a chance as anyone.

 

[Ted Danson]

Dont get me wrong though I still fully expect us to cock things up every time but I dont let it get me into a big depression spiral like people do on here nad other forums. I just take it as the norm but then when we actually do something good thats unexpected and I get a massive lift

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

I see your point but to me its like if you had a race horse that kept placing but never won, it would still be better than the rest of the pack who never even place. I still class getting to the semi final of the cups as quite a good achievement too weather its at Wembley or not and there are plenty of teams who could never even dream of achieving that

With all the play-offs, JPT cups etc, appearing at Wembley these days is not the thing it was but 20 odd years ago, as was the case with my Dad, fans used to dream of seeing their team play at the old stadium.

The problem we've got now is actually winning one of these games and on Grecian's point, although you end up in the play-offs because you're not good enough to go up, I'd hazard a guess that most would take a Wembley win in the play-offs over finishing 2nd, if only we didn't have to go through the pain before hand !

 

[Grecian2000]

Given the general shittiness of all the teams at the top of the third tier, I find it hard to understand why it would be astonishing to you if the particular shower of shit that is United were to go up. We have as good a chance as anyone.

That's exactly how I think most of the time, I look at the tables, the fixtures, the opposing teams and it all looks very good. Then every couple of weeks I go to BDTBL and it all evaporates in about 10 minutes and I can't fathom how a team so slow and clueless would ever acheive anything. If only we didn't have to play it would all look great . . . .

 

[Darren]

That's exactly how I think most of the time, I look at the tables, the fixtures, the opposing teams and it all looks very good. Then every couple of weeks I go to BDTBL and it all evaporates in about 10 minutes and I can't fathom how a team so slow and clueless would ever acheive anything. If only we didn't have to play it would all look great . . . .

Indeed. I am pretty sure the fans of Bournemouth, Brentford etc think similar things

 

[Darren]

With all the play-offs, JPT cups etc, appearing at Wembley these days is not the thing it was but 20 odd years ago, as was the case with my Dad, fans used to dream of seeing their team play at the old stadium.

The problem we've got now is actually winning one of these games and on Grecian's point, although you end up in the play-offs because you're not good enough to go up, I'd hazard a guess that most would take a Wembley win in the play-offs over finishing 2nd, if only we didn't have to go through the pain before hand !

I wouldn't