The most blatant penalty ever!

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LJBlade said:
You’ve contradicted the post you’ve replied to. Was he pulled back or was he shoved?
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First he was pulled back & then he was shoved forwards, with the result that he was disoriented so fell over.
 
Speedracer said:
First he was pulled back & then he was shoved forwards, with the result that he was disoriented so fell over.
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See this in my point. It was an obvious penalty but there seems to be very little agreement for why. You’re the first to say he was both pulled and pushed. Some have said he was pulled, everyone has said he was pushed.

I’m not saying it wasn’t a penalty, I’m saying it’s strange because even the replay doesn’t make it obvious exactly what happened.
 
Tezza1889 said:
Referee was a bulb nib, the crowd came alive and the rest is history..

I know it could have been worse but it’s set us off and raised the volume..

Note to every fucker, start bouncing, and we stop you.. happy days..

I’ve had a reyt day, hope you did too.
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We are the BounceMeisters, bounce and we will make you regret supporting the nondescript bunch of wankers your father took you to watch when you were too young to have any sense.

 
1973Blade said:
Even though we won I still feel annoyed about that disgraceful blatant penalty the ref missed. McGoldrick just about to score in front of an empty goal, and gets shoved. The linesman in particular must have seen it!
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Luton Shelton at Old Trafford is still the most baffling and disgusting decision ever seen by the eyes of myself.
 
Watching it back and the commentator says it’s a penalty.

It’s a penalty.
 
The problem I have, is that when you are pushed from behind like McG was, you don’t throw your arms up in the air and fall. You go down arms forward to protect your face (especially when you’re as good looking as me). It’s an evolution of the game that players are taught to dramatise it. To be honest, given the refs view I’d struggle to give it. But what the ref has to ask himself is why would McG go down given the opportunity he has??

Which is why I’d give it.
 
Kozzy_is_my_Dad said:
Genuinely the worst I have seen at the Lane in several years.
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All I want to see is a referee do what the egg-chaser refs do - stand there and wave them all away and only give a decision when he’s satisfied about the situation. They’re all push overs. Howard Webb is the best referee we’ve seen, and will see, for some years.
 



FriethBlade said:
Said on another thread that in hindsight that incident did us a favour as the sense of injustice fuelled the passion in the stands and on the pitch. Following their equaliser there was only.one team in it and it actually made the victory all the sweeter.
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We’re at our best when we’ve got our mad up!:cool:
 
sheffielder said:
The linesman on the South Stand side gave us nothing after Jody Morris got his IPad out in the 1st half to show him he had an offside wrong.
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Is this a joke? I'm assuming joke because it's not a thing that might actually happen.
 
Ainsley Harriott said:
Luton Shelton at Old Trafford is still the most baffling and disgusting decision ever seen by the eyes of myself.
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Was there that day and had a perfect view of it, ball at least four foot in front of Shelton when Heinze takes him out from behind. The ref was frantically signalling no foul to his linesman before Shelton hit the ground in case he'd spoil everything by flagging it.Think it was that git Rob Styles as well, the mind reader who can tell if there is intent involved.

Two other crackers at Old Trafford that I saw were Paul Parker being beaten to the ball by Agana in the box and as Agana chased it toward the byline Parker took both his ankles in a sliding tackle with the ball nowhere near. Then a Jamie Hoyland shot from the edge of the box which Bryan Robson blocked by diving to his right and using both forearms to knock it away, good save in fairness.
 
Rusty view said:
I couldn't get yesterday, but the way McG fell looked a bit dramatic. Not saying he wasn't shoved but the fall made it look a bit of a dive.
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Nothing worse than Salah yesterday. It’s quite pathetic that he was awarded it to be honest
 
Rusty view said:
I couldn't get yesterday, but the way McG fell looked a bit dramatic. Not saying he wasn't shoved but the fall made it look a bit of a dive.
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I thought it was dramatic too but he’s about to tap the ball into an empty net, why would he go down?

He wouldn’t unless he was fouled is the answer.
 
wizadry said:
I thought it was dramatic too but he’s about to tap the ball into an empty net, why would he go down?

He wouldn’t unless he was fouled is the answer.
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Agree fully he was fouled, I'm just trying to understand how the ref judged it not to be. (which is a real struggle)
 
Ainsley Harriott said:
Luton Shelton at Old Trafford is still the most baffling and disgusting decision ever seen by the eyes of myself.
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This. Remember watching it live and jumping around celebrating the obvious penalty to then settle down to realise Manure had the ball on the attack up the other end... had no idea what was going on and still haven’t seen it back as motd never showed it on the highlights!
 



This a great example to show that VAR will still bring controversy.

The recent World Cup seems to centre around “whether there was contact”.
It seems if there’s contact then it means there should be a penalty.

Yesterday my view was that there was some light contact, then McGoldrick went down easily.
It was quite similiar to the Mo Salah incident. Wonder what decision VAR would have given?

The problem is that VAR can determine if there’s been contact but can’t determine the level of contact.

I’ve heard it said that once VAR comes in then players will deliberately try to invite contact then go down at the slightest touch.
In the World Cup there was a big increase in penalties, makes you wonder if they’ll be a large increase in the English league.
 
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