The Good Old Days.

[CarlingBlade]

I worked with an elderly Sunderland exile and fan many years ago
He says that there was serious crowd trouble and fighting at Newcastle v Sunderland matches BEFORE the war. He challenged me to do some research on one incident, said it was in the papers and the trouble lasted days.

Still never got round to checking it out. Told me there was a serious rivalry with Newcastle and Sunderland from before the war due to taking work and losing jobs/redundancies etc.

In one of the Blades History books there was some Blade nicknamed the Shoreham Mauler who was around in the 1950's.

 

[Blend-it-like-Harris]

Still got mi' rattle from 1958; looks like it's gonna get a fresh celebration outing sometime very soon!

 

[Sean Thornton]

In one of the Blades History books there was some Blade nicknamed the Shoreham Mauler who was around in the 1950's.

The nickname now appropriated by LYDON

 

[Bob Socks]

Albert Scroggings. A.K.A. The Shoreham Mauler.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

Still got mi' rattle from 1958; looks like it's gonna get a fresh celebration outing sometime very soon!

I thought mine was the only one left!

 

[Woodwardfan]

You never saw frido eggs...

Wembley balls twice as dear but worth it!

 

[Woodwardfan]

The first time I remember organised hooliganism on a large scale at the lane was when Newcastle fans came to take over the kop in the mid sixties.

The kop and the city centre!!

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

I remember when people went on holiday to get away from things.

 

[cahill]

Hooliganism did start in the 1960s. I will leave to the older Blades to tell you

Mid to,late 1960's was a lot of trouble at matches.

Before that. I have read quite a lot of reports of fighting etc at the Sheffield Archives when looking for reports of Woody's goals and assists. Dick Wragg and the board often put in a public statement asking the fans to put a stop to the hooliganism. Fighting at the Man City home match in April 1967 made it to the front page of the Morning Telegraph and there were photos of injured fans. Also reports of fans battle before the Lane derby match in Sept 1967. There is a photo with damages in the Train Special (FA Cup match at Watford in Jan 1968) in the programme for home game after that

I can remember BBC radio reports now about trouble at our 1967 home match with Wendy "There was fighting before, during ,and after the Sheffield derby on the Shoreham street end of the ground"
In those days you would have big "mobs" roaming around towns and outside grounds. I remember going to Blackpool and everyone piled off the train chanting, safety in numbers, police lined us up and individually searched us.
One of their hooligan group approached me and complained that one of ours had threatened them with a hatchet, which he considered out of order " don't mind a scrap but that's out of order".

Wrecking football specials was de rigueur at the time.







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[Woodwardfan]

I remember when people went on holiday to get away from things.

This is a really good thread, why spoil it?

I think about SUFC many times each day, particularly when on a long holiday when I have more time than ever

 

[Woodwardfan]

I remember when people went on holiday to get away from things.

I remember when people went on hol

 

[cahill]

I played Rugby Union for DLS from 1961 to 1969.

They also always had very good football teams prior to and including those years so I don't understand that comment.

We used to kick a ball about at Beauchief but to my knowledge we didn't compete against other schools at football. I was there between 1965-1970. The only match i can ever remember was the older lads playing against Mexborough Grammar, for some reason, and the whole school had to traipse down and watch it. The headmaster Bro Victor explained that they didn't play against other schools, because of " bad experiences in the past" . So presumably they had played prior to that
As for Rugby it was like watching something from a different planet to a lad from a mining village near Barnsley. I always thought rugby union was a game for boys who weren't able to play football, overweight middle class pouffs

 

[Woodwardfan]

1. 'W' Formation, no other systems until early 60' s from my memory.
2. No squad numbers, just the eleven and later just the 12.
3. No forums, nearest maybe Green'un letters half page. No trolls or sharks.
4. Lifted kids over turnstiles.
5. Bovril
6. Daily Herald.
7. Kids and sick fans passed over heads to the front and to the ambulance men and women.

 

[Woodwardfan]

Yeh I think real hooliganism started mid 60's. Before that everyone mixed together and there was very little trouble. also a bit earlier singing songs started. May well have started at Liverpool. I also remember if you were lucky you would get free tickets from your school. This was handy as we never had no money. We thought pocket money was posh.We never got owt, apart from a clip if we asked for money.
Also footballs were rare ont Park Hill, so if you found a kid who could afford one {not those cheep black and white balloons that burst dead easy} you became his best friend. I had one who was a right mardy arse, if the game was going the wrong way he's take his ball home.
Very rarely could we afford to go to away matches. One exception was the County Cup matches. We always played Wednesday and there was always a punch up from the mid 60's on.

Played on Park Hill flats every Sunday morning and more in school holidays for a couple of years. David Ford and Charlie Bell played too. Big playing area with netting in a big circle at one end and a wall made a natural goal at the other end. Sometimes 20 a side- great times.

 

[Snowman]

Used to get my Green un from the paper shop on Smithywood rd ,the owner sometimes took a mini bus to away games and was a shirt sponsor last season.
He also sold toilet rolls ,which use to get thrown into the goals when the teams came out ,I tried once but the thing never unravelled and just landed in the penalty area intact.

You BOUGHT your toilet rolls!? We used to nick em from pubs on the way down from the Minerva where we met.

 

[LSF]

We used to kick a ball about at Beauchief but to my knowledge we didn't compete against other schools at football. I was there between 1965-1970. The only match i can ever remember was the older lads playing against Mexborough Grammar, for some reason, and the whole school had to traipse down and watch it. The headmaster Bro Victor explained that they didn't play against other schools, because of " bad experiences in the past" . So presumably they had played prior to that
As for Rugby it was like watching something from a different planet to a lad from a mining village near Barnsley. I always thought rugby union was a game for boys who weren't able to play football, overweight middle class pouffs

We played De La Salle at football every year from 64-69. They were always competitive and some good players. Nick Fenoughty brother of Tom springs to mind. Ian Holmes too.

 

[Sean Thornton]

People went angling for fish, not "likes".

 

[sitwell]

You BOUGHT your toilet rolls!? We used to nick em from pubs on the way down from the Minerva where we met.

Who said I bought them ? Sorry Bert

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

We used to kick a ball about at Beauchief but to my knowledge we didn't compete against other schools at football. I was there between 1965-1970. The only match i can ever remember was the older lads playing against Mexborough Grammar, for some reason, and the whole school had to traipse down and watch it. The headmaster Bro Victor explained that they didn't play against other schools, because of " bad experiences in the past" . So presumably they had played prior to that
As for Rugby it was like watching something from a different planet to a lad from a mining village near Barnsley. I always thought rugby union was a game for boys who weren't able to play football, overweight middle class pouffs

They must have stopped playing football towards the end of that period perhaps?

I can assure you that our rugby teams had some very hard working class lads in them

One guy's hand-off when tackled was usually composed of a clenched fist

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

We played De La Salle at football every year from 64-69. They were always competitive and some good players. Nick Fenoughty brother of Tom springs to mind. Ian Holmes too.

In previous years, Dennis Finnegan and David Smith who was a Wendyite and could have played for either Sheffield team. He went on to play for Huddersfield (alongside such luminaries as Frank Worthington) as he thought his chances of first division football would be better with them. I'm in touch with him again but the last time I actually saw him was when he was playing for Hartlepool in the FA Cup at Maine Road. They got mullered 6-0

 

[I should coco]

People went angling for fish, not "likes"

Trolls were things that lived under bridges and scared billy goats.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Trolls were things that lived under bridges and scared billy goats.

Mosquitos spread malaria, not angst and disharmony.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

1. 'W' Formation, no other systems until early 60' s from my memory.
2. No squad numbers, just the eleven and later just the 12.
3. No forums, nearest maybe Green'un letters half page. No trolls or sharks.
4. Lifted kids over turnstiles.
5. Bovril
6. Daily Herald.
7. Kids and sick fans passed over heads to the front and to the ambulance men and women.

No trolls or sharks . Behave . It's a forum .

 

[CarlMcBlade]

In the early 70s we used to stand on the east terrace towards the kop. When kop was dark we used to marvel at everybody lighting up their ciggies.
To a young lad it used to look like a pyrotechnic display.

 

[Nick Jansky]

The smell of cigarette smoke at a match....now I hate smoking and think it's a nasty habit to have.....but there's just something that makes me really nostalgic when I'm outdoors and somebody passes me smoking a cigarette.

The smell of the old Social club too. That always smell of beer and fags.
Pubs don't smell like that anymore.

Very happy memories of my dad taking me to Boxing Day matches, and the smell of cigar smoke all around the ground will never leave me.

 

[I should coco]

the smell of cigar smoke all around the ground will never leave me.

Some of the new generation biological washing powders are very good I've heard.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Standing on the Ledge near the Budgies Cage,looking across at a packed Shoreham,and an uninterrupted view of the pitch,wearing a Parka with white fur,and eating jam sandwiches,reading every single word of Lane Line Up

 

[LSF]

In previous years, Dennis Finnegan and David Smith who was a Wendyite and could have played for either Sheffield team. He went on to play for Huddersfield (alongside such luminaries as Frank Worthington) as he thought his chances of first division football would be better with them. I'm in touch with him again but the last time I actually saw him was when he was playing for Hartlepool in the FA Cup at Maine Road. They got mullered 6-0

Think we've touched on this before BoS! I remember playing against Dave Smith in his DLS days, another of the good players produced by them.
Can't think why there was an earlier claim that DLS didn't have football teams?
Always a fixture I enjoyed for lots of reasons, not least the away fixtures at Beauchief, where it was always kind of atmospheric and misty when we played there (and their after game refreshment was good too!)

 

[Nick Jansky]

We made Scrapbooks didn't we. The players signed the pictures. Any player would sign a proper signature and with a Best Wishes or any message if asked. My collection disappeared too, shame really.

I've still got my scrap books and autograph book from the early 70s. During the summer holidays we used to hang around the players entrance on John Street to catch them as they came back from training. They were always happy to chat with us and sign autographs, I remember John Flynn in particular being a really great bloke and would have a kick around in the street with us.

I've also still got the complete Wonderful World of Soccer Stars sticker album from 69/70, which sadly didn't include the Blades. It was the first season they used action shots rather than just head & shoulder pics, brings back so many memories.

 

[Bob Socks]

Bob Socks thinks Everton fans started it and in 1965

It's hard work on here Peter, i think the clique would give a Wednesdayite a better welcome, i'll leave you to it.