The effect on our club

[Lincoln_Blades1889]

Just looking back at the events of the last 2 months I think it's easy to overlook the effect it's had on our squad behind the scenes. It's only natural that the last two weeks/games we haven't looked ourselves on the pitch. Yes they're professionals but also gumans too. These boys need our backing, 1000%. We're in this together and now more than ever, they need us.
Let's get behind em bladesmen, we will come out the other side of this stronger and more resilient.
Keep the faith, up them bastard blayards ⚔

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

Just looking back at the events of the last 2 months I think it's easy to overlook the effect it's had on our squad behind the scenes. It's only natural that the last two weeks/games we haven't looked ourselves on the pitch. Yes they're professionals but also gumans too. These boys need our backing, 1000%. We're in this together and now more than ever, they need us.
Let's get behind em bladesmen, we will come out the other side of this stronger and more resilient.
Keep the faith, up them bastard blayards ⚔

It will have affected some a lot, and also backroom staff as well. A lot of the new players won't really have had any, or little dealings with him. It needs to be allowed for and understood, but not a thing for the whole squad.
The club needs backing for sure, two poor games is just what it is. Win, lose or draw....

 

[Bladesman]

I expect the remaining players from Baldock's time at the club will have been hit hard. Baldock seemed like a man who made everyone welcome and really helped new faces settle into the club.

 

[Charlieblade]

Good players all over the place. On paper they should be untouchable. Can’t help the feeling that something is missing.
Mr Sheffield United, Billy Sharp had it in spades, even when he wasn’t skipper, and even when he wasn’t playing.
That spark of true love and leadership is not there anymore.
The majority of regular starters are all ok in their own right, just missing the team glue that holdsbitall together. Someone for the youngsters to have a quit word with? A bloke who truly loves the club and holds it all together.
As much as I love him and his contribution to the team, it will never be JLT. He does not have total respect from all other players.
Who does Arblaster go to with his concerns. Where does RND turn to with his form worries?
Where can Moore and Cannon go to when they have doubts about where the next goal is coming from. Has anyone offered help and guidance to Brewster?

They must be leaning on a trusted friend, because the club does not have anyone who could fill the role made by Billy Sharp. It won’t be the 2 points we are missing, it will be the loss of a focal point for so many new players and the ex academy lads who have done themselves proud, even if it is a season too soon for most.

Who did Tom Davies turn to to get his game, and his life back on track? Where can Anel get the serious concern and words of wisdom his game is lacking right now. The born, natural leader is the missing piece in this hastily assembled jig saw of a team. On paper they should be killing it. Who or what is missing?

 

[Oohaah! Bob Bookah!]

Good players all over the place. On paper they should be untouchable. Can’t help the feeling that something is missing.
Mr Sheffield United, Billy Sharp had it in spades, even when he wasn’t skipper, and even when he wasn’t playing.
That spark of true love and leadership is not there anymore.
The majority of regular starters are all ok in their own right, just missing the team glue that holdsbitall together. Someone for the youngsters to have a quit word with? A bloke who truly loves the club and holds it all together.
As much as I love him and his contribution to the team, it will never be JLT. He does not have total respect from all other players.
Who does Arblaster go to with his concerns. Where does RND turn to with his form worries?
Where can Moore and Cannon go to when they have doubts about where the next goal is coming from. Has anyone offered help and guidance to Brewster?

Chris Wilder?

 

[Dougie]

As much as I love him and his contribution to the team, it will never be JLT. He does not have total respect from all other players.

With respect, how on earth can you possibly know that?

 

[Charlieblade]

Chris Wilder?

With respect Bob, he already has a job that conflicts with players performing as footballers. It’s too much to add a shoulder to cry on, or a kick up the backside as well. The link between players and the manager is missing.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Good players all over the place. On paper they should be untouchable. Can’t help the feeling that something is missing.
Mr Sheffield United, Billy Sharp had it in spades, even when he wasn’t skipper, and even when he wasn’t playing.
That spark of true love and leadership is not there anymore.
The majority of regular starters are all ok in their own right, just missing the team glue that holdsbitall together. Someone for the youngsters to have a quit word with? A bloke who truly loves the club and holds it all together.
As much as I love him and his contribution to the team, it will never be JLT. He does not have total respect from all other players.
Who does Arblaster go to with his concerns. Where does RND turn to with his form worries?
Where can Moore and Cannon go to when they have doubts about where the next goal is coming from. Has anyone offered help and guidance to Brewster?

They must be leaning on a trusted friend, because the club does not have anyone who could fill the role made by Billy Sharp. It won’t be the 2 points we are missing, it will be the loss of a focal point for so many new players and the ex academy lads who have done themselves proud, even if it is a season too soon for most.

Who did Tom Davies turn to to get his game, and his life back on track? Where can Anel get the serious concern and words of wisdom his game is lacking right now. The born, natural leader is the missing piece in this hastily assembled jig saw of a team. On paper they should be killing it. Who or what is missing?

Wilder ?
Edit ignore ref above

 

[Torrix1889]

With respect, how on earth can you possibly know that?

There were suggestions a season or 2 ago that JLT was not particularly friendly with the younger players...only what i read on here

 

[alcoblade]

Checks league table......

 

[Charlieblade]

With respect, how on earth can you possibly know that?

How do you see him in the eyes of other players? He is probably a nice bloke doing themselves proud best he can. As a player, he is not the one everyone looks up to. I like him as a person, but he lacks the full set when it comes to leadership. Players need to follow him out of something other than curiosity.

 

[Big.Dane.w]

There were suggestions a season or 2 ago that JLT was not particularly friendly with the younger players...only what i read on here

We kind of established it was a young academy lad who was newly introduced to his birds family at a wedding so when a pissed up member of the family was blowing smoke up his arse for being a footballer (and banging his niece from all angles) and asking him what he thought about JLT (who at the time was getting grief) he of course jumped on the band wagon and said he was a cunt basically, which was just what the guy wanted to hear at the time. Not heard anything negative about JLT from anywhere else.

 

[nopigfansintown]

It's hard to remember a United team with more leaders in than this imo. Gilchrist, Burrows, Moore, Arblaster,Cooper, Robbo, Shacks to name but a few. All of those have been leaders at former clubs or when coming through the youth levels. Vini and Choudhary also definitely possess some leadership skills imo. Losing Souttar and Arblaster is unfortunately a blow in this respect.

If you look at the sheer number of games we've gutted out this season, and the physical and squad depth challenges we've faced, I think we've seen leadership and character in abundance. Even the youngster mentality has been top drawer. Sydie Peck?

That said said I'm not sure there's a single Roy Keane/ Chris Morgan figure. It's more a collection of leaders

 

[BladeByChoice]

While I do agree with the comments about leadership, if we’re looking for the next Mr Sheffield United Billy replacement that will be Arblaster in a couple of years, for now, while he gets the years and experience on his back I’m happy enough with the ‘collection of leaders’ we have.

I actually don’t think it’s the leadership that’s missing.

We started the season being laughed out of the PL, and many pundits saying we would struggle to make top 10.

That prompted a classic Wilder rebuild on a shoestring and a backs to the wall siege mentality in the club. At the start of the season up to Christmas that worked.

Then we strengthened the team, we were predicted to piss the top 6 with a 90% chance of top 2 and we relaxed and started looking shaky, scraping 1 nills against teams we are better than.

I think the new owners need to crack the whip, tell Wilder he has got the players and now needs produce the results, we need to start putting teams to the sword.

Nothing like a few 5 nills to fill a team with confidence.

UTB

 

[coaxingstar71]

I don't think there's a leadership problem. There are plenty of good characters, in fact isn't that Wilder's first test when bringing a player to the club? In terms of who do the players go to (if not their close knit fellow players???) then probably a member of the coaching staff they like/trust or even Wilder himself.

I don't think this one is rocket science.

 

[diode_blade]

Sorry, with all due respect to OP, what's a "guman", is it our new CB...just asking for a friend

 

[Harrisblade]

How do you see him in the eyes of other players? He is probably a nice bloke doing themselves proud best he can. As a player, he is not the one everyone looks up to. I like him as a person, but he lacks the full set when it comes to leadership. Players need to follow him out of something other than curiosity.

Stop fantasising.
You have no idea only YOUR own opinion based on nothing at all

 

[Houston_Blade]

Who does Arblaster go to with his concerns.

Attercliffe Sauna

Where does RND turn to with his form worries?

He hits the bottle

Where can Moore and Cannon go to when they have doubts about where the next goal is coming from.

Brewster of course

Who did Tom Davies turn to to get his game, and his life back on track?

Fashion and Chopsticks

Where can Anel get the serious concern and words of wisdom his game is lacking right now.

His Harry Souttar action figure

 

[GymClassHero]

While I do agree with the comments about leadership, if we’re looking for the next Mr Sheffield United Billy replacement that will be Arblaster in a couple of years, for now, while he gets the years and experience on his back I’m happy enough with the ‘collection of leaders’ we have.

I actually don’t think it’s the leadership that’s missing.

We started the season being laughed out of the PL, and many pundits saying we would struggle to make top 10.

That prompted a classic Wilder rebuild on a shoestring and a backs to the wall siege mentality in the club. At the start of the season up to Christmas that worked.

Then we strengthened the team, we were predicted to piss the top 6 with a 90% chance of top 2 and we relaxed and started looking shaky, scraping 1 nills against teams we are better than.

I think the new owners need to crack the whip, tell Wilder he has got the players and now needs produce the results, we need to start putting teams to the sword.

Nothing like a few 5 nills to fill a team with confidence.

UTB

Confused because we've not played a game yet where all new players have been involved.

 

[Charlieblade]

Wilder ?
Edit ignore ref above

Wilder is the head coach and the football manager. He probably needs someone to help him, especially as he has seemingly stopped listening to Knill?

Attercliffe Sauna

He hits the bottle

Brewster of course

Fashion and Chopsticks

His Harry Souttar action figure

Attercliffe Sauna

He hits the bottle

Brewster of course

Fashion and Chopsticks

His Harry Souttar action figure

Despite your in depth knowledge of the game, you resort to humour for the answers!

Football is a team game, and the single most important aspect of the team ethos is leadership. It’s I,portent to recognize that as a quality currently lacking at Sheffield United FC.

Players are reporting to their own individual skills to collect points for the club, when the leadership of one individual, or a group of leaders is absent!

Rak Saki scores a few to make the point of his ability. The same with Moore. Even Tom Davis manages to fashion a winner from being in the right place at the right time.

I make the point that individually, and on paper, the team, is capable of so much more as a team, playing unselfishly to support others, instead of as lone individuals. The team spirit is missing, whether that comes from a individual, or a group of natural leaders.

No one is taking responsibility for the thing that makes Blades so much better than the sum of their individual parts. The collective team ethos is rightly lauded and it’s missing. Individually they are ok. As a team with genuine unselfish spirit they could achieve so much more!

 

[Houston_Blade]

Wilder is the head coach and the football manager. He probably needs someone to help him, especially as he has seemingly stopped listening to Knill?


Despite your in depth knowledge of the game, you resort to humour for the answers!

Football is a team game, and the single most important aspect of the team ethos is leadership. It’s I,portent to recognize that as a quality currently lacking at Sheffield United FC.

Players are reporting to their own individual skills to collect points for the club, when the leadership of one individual, or a group of leaders is absent!

Rak Saki scores a few to make the point of his ability. The same with Moore. Even Tom Davis manages to fashion a winner from being in the right place at the right time.

I make the point that individually, and on paper, the team, is capable of so much more as a team, playing unselfishly to support others, instead of as lone individuals. The team spirit is missing, whether that comes from a individual, or a group of natural leaders.

No one is taking responsibility for the thing that makes Blades so much better than the sum of their individual parts. The collective team ethos is rightly lauded and it’s missing. Individually they are ok. As a team with genuine unselfish spirit they could achieve so much more!

Sorry, I’ll post seriously this time.

I go back to the fact that Wilder achieved something first time around that certainly hasn’t been done before in my lifetime and I don’t think will be done again.

I don’t think most clubs have a Sharp type figure like we’ve been lucky enough to have recently. All this “one of our own” narrative that every club seems to strive for and jump on as soon as they have anything remotely homegrown is something that we genuinely had and it was an excellent time to watch us.

We need to find another strategy now and not try and copy what we did in 2018 when we had a different squad, mentality and countless other differences. Whether I trust Wilder to come up with this ‘other way’ remains to be seen.

 

[GymClassHero]

Wilder is the head coach and the football manager. He probably needs someone to help him, especially as he has seemingly stopped listening to Knill?


Despite your in depth knowledge of the game, you resort to humour for the answers!

Football is a team game, and the single most important aspect of the team ethos is leadership. It’s I,portent to recognize that as a quality currently lacking at Sheffield United FC.

Players are reporting to their own individual skills to collect points for the club, when the leadership of one individual, or a group of leaders is absent!

Rak Saki scores a few to make the point of his ability. The same with Moore. Even Tom Davis manages to fashion a winner from being in the right place at the right time.

I make the point that individually, and on paper, the team, is capable of so much more as a team, playing unselfishly to support others, instead of as lone individuals. The team spirit is missing, whether that comes from a individual, or a group of natural leaders.

No one is taking responsibility for the thing that makes Blades so much better than the sum of their individual parts. The collective team ethos is rightly lauded and it’s missing. Individually they are ok. As a team with genuine unselfish spirit they could achieve so much more!

I have to disagree here mate. I think the team has spirit in abundance -mucking in to grind results out despite playing out of position/carrying a knock/being unwell.

Ultimately none of us knows what is said and done between the lads.

 

[Charlieblade]

It's hard to remember a United team with more leaders in than this imo. Gilchrist, Burrows, Moore, Arblaster,Cooper, Robbo, Shacks to name but a few. All of those have been leaders at former clubs or when coming through the youth levels. Vini and Choudhary also definitely possess some leadership skills imo. Losing Souttar and Arblaster is unfortunately a blow in this respect.

If you look at the sheer number of games we've gutted out this season, and the physical and squad depth challenges we've faced, I think we've seen leadership and character in abundance. Even the youngster mentality has been top drawer. Sydie Peck?

That said said I'm not sure there's a single Roy Keane/ Chris Morgan figure. It's more a collection of leaders

Group leadership will work fine, but it’s something that will develop over time. Most players only have less than a season at the club, due to the demands of the rebuild. It does need natural leaders to develop. Players like Burrows, with his captaincy skills at a lower level is a good pick, but he is still adjusting his own game and outlook on life as a new lad to the team.
Peck is full of confidence in his own ability, but can you see him giving advice to the likes of JLT or Vini?

My concern is that the kind of unique leadership offered by Billy, is noticeably missing. No individual has stepped up, and group leadership will take time to develop. For all I know, Wilder has a grip of this already, but he is rightly focused on formation, tactics, substitutions and integration of new players. Too much even for him to take on?

It will come eventually, but supporters need to be aware of it. The team ethos was always highlighted as one of our better points. Now Billy has gone, who or what will replace it?

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

I have to disagree here mate. I think the team has spirit in abundance -mucking in to grind results out despite playing out of position/carrying a knock/being unwell.

Ultimately none of us knows what is said and done between the lads.

Exactly. It's descended into the biggest load of waffle based on zero knowledge of what any dressing room or training ground personalities exist.

 

[CrookesBlade]

Exactly. It's descended into the biggest load of waffle based on zero knowledge of what any dressing room or training ground personalities exist.

I think there is probably half a point in there about there being no obvious “club captain” type. However, that’s all relative to our perception and we’ve no real way of knowing.

It’s also worth remembering that it’s only British football that venerates the office of captain. Elsewhere they just chuck the armband to whoever is oldest and get on with it.

Far more important to have numerous leaders and confident voices on the pitch.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

I think there is probably half a point in there about there being no obvious “club captain” type. However, that’s all relative to our perception and we’ve no real way of knowing.

It’s also worth remembering that it’s only British football that venerates the office of captain. Elsewhere they just chuck the armband to whoever is oldest and get on with it.

Far more important to have numerous leaders and confident voices on the pitch.

A big point being missed here, (noy aimed at you btw) is also the fact we have had numerous ' discipline ' fines.
These fines have mostly being for a large group of our players piling in to look after another.
The last one we had was from the Coventry match. After Anels sending off, a big pile in, in the tunnel , after CW pushed / was pushed.
Ok. We paid a fine, but that is a group of players who've got each others back. Certainly not the picture that some people are trying to paint.

 

[CrookesBlade]

A big point being missed here, (noy aimed at you btw) is also the fact we have had numerous ' discipline ' fines.
These fines have mostly being for a large group of our players piling in to look after another.
The last one we had was from the Coventry match. After Anels sending off, a big pile in, in the tunnel , after CW pushed / was pushed.
Ok. We paid a fine, but that is a group of players who've got each others back. Certainly not the picture that some people are trying to paint.

Aye noticed the same against Swansea. Campbell in particular, a relatively new member of the group, had only been on the pitch 5 mins and coming back off a big lay off. Not a particularly “aggy” player but was straight in there sticking up for his team mates. Great to see.