That was dog shit

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I'm usually an optimist, but I need to raise two key points;

- we didn't deserve the goal
- the red card was an absolute gift.

So why on earth didn't we go in for the kill? We had plenty of opportunities to get another goal, so why didn't we put them to the sword?

If I was Chris Wilder, I'd be fuming tonight. You can't see out the last 20 minutes of the game worried about conceding when yer 1-0 up against 10 men. That should have been put away after their lad walked.

Am I being too harsh? Did anyone else walk away from that game feeling like it wasn't a win?


What's really getting on my tits in all of this is the fact that whilst dog shit it may have been , it wasnt white dog shit .

Whatever happened to white dog shit ?
 
Whatever happened to white dog shit ?

New regulations meant dog food companies couldn't put chalk in their products anymore, so it went away. We shall tell our grandkids tales of white shite but they will never know it.
 
New regulations meant dog food companies couldn't put chalk in their products anymore, so it went away. We shall tell our grandkids tales of white shite but they will never know it.


Der Der!

And now in the chair is Tom, a critic from Sheffield, and Toms chosen specialist subject is, shit.......
 
Der Der!

And now in the chair is Tom, a critic from Sheffield, and Toms chosen specialist subject is, shit.......


Why were I shittin white this morning though ?

Is that bastard McCabe putting chalk in the pies at ' t ' lane ???

Or is it dog shit osmosis from the festering turds on the pitch last night .

I'm not happy :mad:
 
It wasn't great but we won. The key difference this season is that games like this we're winning or getting something out of.

It's not good enough if it happens in every game but as long as these are the exceptions rather than the rule it's all good.
 
Bristol Rovers were a big physical side and not without some ability going forward. They had good opportunities but weren't good enough to take them, Easter in particular. They didn't have a defender on the bench (but had 5 in the starting line-up) and dealt with anything we had going forwards relatively comfortably in the first half. We were lucky to go in level. Thank goodness for Moore. In the first 15 minutes or so they were by far the better side. We seemed to struggle with the 442 formation and didn't look like scoring against their 352. They switched to 442 and it cost them the game. Easter's sending off didn't seem to hurt them and we were hanging on at the end. Coutts can't defend to save his life, still owes us a goal, but tonight was the best I have seen him perform for us. Sadly a number of our players (Sharp, Duffy, Freeman) weren't at the races tonight, but and its a big but, we ground out a win. Best player on the pitch for me was one of theirs - Boateng.

Thought their centre half Clarke-Salter was excellent. Saw that he's 19 and on loan from Chelsea. It was his first senior start.
 
Those are the persistent doomsayers, not you. Plus those who expect a top class performance every week and can't even be satisfied with three points.


I'm not actually fully agreeing with any one in particular, just my own thoughts but football is what it is. If we start putting results down to luck because of a five/ten second event rather than a 90+ minute game of endeavour and ability id say we would be missing the whole point of the game.

I think you also said we were poor, I don't agree with that either btw and nor did anyone around me. My fear is always that we won't get that second goal cushion as I'm sure many peoples is, but last night we didn't need it. We scored a good goal and even if it had been a goalmouth scramble, as the idea is to get the ball in the net I can't see why it's lucky. Same as good defending prevented Rovers from scoring. That's the idea, don't let a goal in and score goals yourselves.

The Rovers fans on Roy's thread don't seem to think we were lucky either.


Yeah there’s always one or two persistent doomsayers just like there’s always one or two who won’t have a bad word said no matter how justified (blade too long for example). I’d like to think most of us can watch a game and comment both positively and negatively depending on what we see even though we won’t all have the same interpretation.


I suppose it’s all rather subjective. My take was that they moved the ball better, created more, worked our keeper more, looked fitter and quicker and even with ten men, looked the more likely. But we did score a good goal, somewhat against the run of play in my opinion.


As I say, I would say there is an element of luck when you win a game whilst creating less than the opposition. For the same reason I say we were a tad unfortunate not to take anything from the Bolton game. But credit where it’s due to the likes of Moore, EEL and O Connell for keeping them out.
 
Yeah there’s always one or two persistent doomsayers just like there’s always one or two who won’t have a bad word said no matter how justified (blade too long for example). I’d like to think most of us can watch a game and comment both positively and negatively depending on what we see even though we won’t all have the same interpretation.


I suppose it’s all rather subjective. My take was that they moved the ball better, created more, worked our keeper more, looked fitter and quicker and even with ten men, looked the more likely. But we did score a good goal, somewhat against the run of play in my opinion.


As I say, I would say there is an element of luck when you win a game whilst creating less than the opposition. For the same reason I say we were a tad unfortunate not to take anything from the Bolton game. But credit where it’s due to the likes of Moore, EEL and O Connell for keeping them out.


Differing views are the lifeblood of the forum Dane!

I shall expect Deadbat to mark both bad and good luck in his match reports in future though. :)
 
Yeah there’s always one or two persistent doomsayers just like there’s always one or two who won’t have a bad word said no matter how justified (blade too long for example). I’d like to think most of us can watch a game and comment both positively and negatively depending on what we see even though we won’t all have the same interpretation.


I suppose it’s all rather subjective. My take was that they moved the ball better, created more, worked our keeper more, looked fitter and quicker and even with ten men, looked the more likely. But we did score a good goal, somewhat against the run of play in my opinion.


As I say, I would say there is an element of luck when you win a game whilst creating less than the opposition. For the same reason I say we were a tad unfortunate not to take anything from the Bolton game. But credit where it’s due to the likes of Moore, EEL and O Connell for keeping them out.
the only thing that grinds my gears are huber critical people who whinge when we win
or treat a good away draw as failure
some moaning about beating rovers, whats that about
so we scored against the run of play
not like we havent ever dominated games and got suckered

the game that got us in league one , middlesborough at home
we murdered them had 15 odd clear cut chances got clobbered by a late breakaway


thats football
I was told there was no such thing as luck in football when I said wed suffered from more than our fair share of bad luck
so if we get any its way way overdue
 
Differing views are the lifeblood of the forum Dane!

I shall expect Deadbat to mark both bad and good luck in his match reports in future though. :)
Theres fortune in all games
some get deflections that send it past a keeper
some get deflections that push it an inch wide of the post
some refs see a ball hit a hand , if your lucky he will give it, if not hell wave it away as unintentional
luck of the draw on which ref you get

this is the sort of luck wednesday need to re find
 
the only thing that grinds my gears are huber critical people who whinge when we win
or treat a good away draw as failure
some moaning about beating rovers, whats that about
so we scored against the run of play
not like we havent ever dominated games and got suckered

the game that got us in league one , middlesborough at home
we murdered them had 15 odd clear cut chances got clobbered by a late breakaway


thats football
I was told there was no such thing as luck in football when I said wed suffered from more than our fair share of bad luck
so if we get any its way way overdue


Saying we didn't play well and got a bit of luck but happy with 3 points is not moaning. It's just an honest assessment. Similarly, I've said we played decent at Bolton and were a bit unlucky to lose. It's called balance.

In what way did Middlesbrough at home get us in League 1? We were relegated by a distance with Barnsley at home confirming it.
 



Saying we didn't play well and got a bit of luck but happy with 3 points is not moaning. It's just an honest assessment. Similarly, I've said we played decent at Bolton and were a bit unlucky to lose. It's called balance.

In what way did Middlesbrough at home get us in League 1? We were relegated by a distance with Barnsley at home confirming it.


I didn't think you were moaning. You were wrong, but it wasn't moaning :)
 
Saying we didn't play well and got a bit of luck but happy with 3 points is not moaning. It's just an honest assessment. Similarly, I've said we played decent at Bolton and were a bit unlucky to lose. It's called balance.

In what way did Middlesbrough at home get us in League 1? We were relegated by a distance with Barnsley at home confirming it.

if wed beaten barnsley wed have gone down
they only equalised as our players realised that
was the previous home games v boro that set it up
 
Saying we didn't play well and got a bit of luck but happy with 3 points is not moaning. It's just an honest assessment. Similarly, I've said we played decent at Bolton and were a bit unlucky to lose. It's called balance.

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I didnt say it was you who had moaned
threads like that was dog shit after a win

really

as I pointed out leicester won 5 of 6 on the trot with hard fought , lucky even , 1-0 wins
if we win 1-0 with our only shot at goal with 8 deflections
its a good win
the table says so
 
I'm usually an optimist, but I need to raise two key points;

- we didn't deserve the goal
- the red card was an absolute gift.

So why on earth didn't we go in for the kill? We had plenty of opportunities to get another goal, so why didn't we put them to the sword?

If I was Chris Wilder, I'd be fuming tonight. You can't see out the last 20 minutes of the game worried about conceding when yer 1-0 up against 10 men. That should have been put away after their lad walked.

Am I being too harsh? Did anyone else walk away from that game feeling like it wasn't a win?
HOW CAN YOUR NOT DESERVE A GOAL? SERIOUSLY, A GOAL IS A GOAL
 
the only thing that grinds my gears are huber critical people who whinge when we win
or treat a good away draw as failure
some moaning about beating rovers, whats that about
so we scored against the run of play
not like we havent ever dominated games and got suckered

the game that got us in league one , middlesborough at home
we murdered them had 15 odd clear cut chances got clobbered by a late breakaway


thats football
I was told there was no such thing as luck in football when I said wed suffered from more than our fair share of bad luck
so if we get any its way way overdue

Now come on BTL. Everybody knows that any seriously promotion minded team would have swept Rovers aside when they went down to 10 and won by at least three clear.

I bet United are the only promotion seeking club ever who would have settled for the 1-0 under Tuesday's circumstances. Promotion is always achieved by throwing caution to the wind whatever staff is at the manager's disposal. I bet Burton and Wigan deserved to win every game last season, and can you imagine the Arsenal ever winning anything if they settled for 1-0?

To be honest, I think we should contact the Football League and offer to have 2 points deducted and give Brissle one of them.
 
if wed beaten barnsley wed have gone down
they only equalised as our players realised that
was the previous home games v boro that set it up


We went down with a whimper by some distance. Putting it all on the Middleborough game makes no sense. I’d say the week where we lost to Scunny, Derby and Palace (all relegation rivals) was the most defining period if we were to pick one.
 
I didnt say it was you who had moaned
threads like that was dog shit after a win

really

as I pointed out leicester won 5 of 6 on the trot with hard fought , lucky even , 1-0 wins
if we win 1-0 with our only shot at goal with 8 deflections
its a good win
the table says so



This I think we can agree on. A win is a win and I will always take an ugly, even fortuitous win over a valiant defeat where we’ve played well. But the danger is, if we play like that regularly, I don’t think we’re likely to win enough games. Fortunately, I think we can and will play better if we can get back to playing 352.
 
We went down with a whimper by some distance. Putting it all on the Middleborough game makes no sense. I’d say the week where we lost to Scunny, Derby and Palace (all relegation rivals) was the most defining period if we were to pick one.

I said that was the game it became clear wed go down
had the returning Henderson not missed 4 or 5 open goals wed have won and given ourselves hope , but the loss to an Emnes breakway goal was a very big nail in our coffin

paper quote
Marvin Emnes dealt Sheffield United's relegation fight a hammer blow with an 89th-minute winner for Middlesbrough to send the Blades to the bottom of the npower Championship table.

Dutch striker Emnes raced clear on to Julio Arca's late throughball and held his nerve to slide the ball beyond Blades goalkeeper Steve Simonsen for only his third goal of the season to extend Boro's unbeaten run to five matches.

His winner was cruel on United, who had cancelled out Matthew Bates' first-half opener for the visitors through Matthew Lowton before half-time.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...n-Emnes-hits-minute-winner.html#ixzz4LjtaRHUc
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I said that was the game it became clear wed go down
had the returning Henderson not missed 4 or 5 open goals wed have won and given ourselves hope , but the loss to an Emnes breakway goal was a very big nail in our coffin


You said "the game that got us in league one". I disagree. As I say, I think the 3 consecutive 6 pointers we lost in the space of about 8 days (one of them from leading 2-0) was what made it clear we were going down.
 
You said "the game that got us in league one". I disagree. As I say, I think the 3 consecutive 6 pointers we lost in the space of about 8 days (one of them from leading 2-0) was what made it clear we were going down.
it put us bottom which was soul destroying , more than any other game
it knocked the proverbial stuffing out of us
perhaps if you understood footballers mentalities a bit more
rather than just your view
 
it put us bottom which was soul destroying , more than any other game
it knocked the proverbial stuffing out of us
perhaps if you understood footballers mentalities a bit more
rather than just your view


I still reckon losing 3 6 pointers in a week, one from 2-0 up does more damage psychologically and mathematically than losing at home to Boro. It also gave a lift to all of our rivals down there. Perhaps if you understood numbers etc. instead of your own made up logic.......
 
I still reckon losing 3 6 pointers in a week, one from 2-0 up does more damage psychologically and mathematically than losing at home to Boro. It also gave a lift to all of our rivals down there. Perhaps if you understood numbers etc. instead of your own made up logic.......
not my logic was also the papers account
 



I can't criticise the players that played, it was 100% effort all over the pitch, but we lack pace everywhere. A little bit of pace in the team and we would've took Rovers apart. Hopefully it won't be our undoing this season
 

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