That dive / penalty decision

[Trafford]

Couldn’t tell at the match - was it / wasn’t it?

 

[Carlton Blade]

Blatant foul.

 

[Houso]

Blatant dive.

FTFY

 

[Houso]

And Colback should have been blatently off for a second yellow at the start of the second.

 

[SwitchBLADE Smiles]

I can't believe there are Forest fans genuinely complaining about that dive... Well done to the referee for having the nads to book Colback so early for it

 

[Houso]

I can't believe there are Forest fans genuinely complaining about that dive... Well done to the referee for having the nads to book Colback so early for it

Notice how Colback barely complained too. Had a chunter, but out of embarrassment more than anything.

 

[Carlton Blade]

FTFY

Seems harsh

 

[BritishSteel]

Couldn’t tell at the match - was it / wasn’t it?

Like watching Das Boot and Crimson Tide at the same time.

 

[Guesty]

On the other hand, a generous reading of the situation says that McGoldrick fell over hurdling a tackle. A cynic would have he dived. Either way, he wasn't taken out.

 

[Harry's Game]

On the other hand, a generous reading of the situation says that McGoldrick fell over hurdling a tackle. A cynic would have he dived. Either way, he wasn't taken out.

And there were Forest players on the cover. Would have been well annoyed if that decision had been at the other end.

 

[Guesty]

And there were Forest players on the cover. Would have been well annoyed if that decision had been at the other end.

Indeed. A red would have been harsh if he'd caught him (an argument could be made either way) but he didn't.

 

[Topplayersleave]

There's no way the Forest players would have got back if McGoldrick hadn't been fouled
Why do people always look at incidents like this and say there are covering defenders when McGoldrick is already on the floor.

If McGoldrick isn't touched, he's eight yards out and clean through.

BTW Leeds are winning already, and are already playing against 10 men, so the goal difference might suffer a bit as well here

 

[Guesty]

There's no way the Forest players would have got back if McGoldrick hadn't been fouled
Why do people always look at incidents like this and say there are covering defenders when McGoldrick is already on the floor.

If McGoldrick isn't touched, he's eight yards out and clean through.

BTW Leeds are winning already, and are already playing against 10 men, so the goal difference might suffer a bit as well here

McGoldrick wasn't touched.

 

[Topplayersleave]

McGoldrick wasn't touched.

There was an old man down our street who was convinced that whenever a player didn't suffer a broken leg it wasn't a foul

 

[Guesty]

There was an old man down our street who was convinced that whenever a player didn't suffer a broken leg it wasn't a foul

I'm not saying it definitely wasn't a foul, but I don't think he was touched. What is certain is that the lad didn't do himself any favours lunging in like that.

 

[Yewsman]

Even if there’s was no contact there was the intention so either way it’s a foul. Ask Mike Dean

 

[Guesty]

Even if there’s was no contact there was the intention so either way it’s a foul. Ask Mike Dean

Rob Styles, I believe.

It would be a bit hypocritical of us to claim that after all these years, wouldn't it? That said, as I pointed out elsewhere maybe it's a sign our luck is turning.

 

[Topplayersleave]

I'm not saying it definitely wasn't a foul, but I don't think he was touched. What is certain is that the lad didn't do himself any favours lunging in like that.

No he was pretty stupid, but the slightest brush when moving at speed and you lose your footing.
I think McGoldrick was trying to be honest, for a split second he seemed to try to keep his feet but eventually went over due to loss of balance.

 

[Guesty]

No he was pretty stupid, but the slightest brush when moving at speed and you lose your footing.
I think McGoldrick was trying to be honest, for a split second he seemed to try to keep his feet but eventually went over due to loss of balance.

Having watched it plenty, I don't think McGoldrick dived. My instinct would be that he fell over hurdling the tackle. Now, whether that was due to a touch (I agree a small touch can send you flying) or whether, even if there wasn't a touch it still constitutes a foul, I'm not sure.

 

[ben1987]

Definite foul on McG imo. He was on his way around the defender who was stuck flat footed. Any contact was minimal but the lunge was reckless and stopped McG getting on the end of the run without being close to playing the ball.

I think the red card was harsh and I’d be annoyed if it was handed to one of ours. There was a couple of defenders getting back and I don’t think it was a clear goal scoring opportunity. He was on his weak foot coming into the area at pace with the ball moving quickly ahead of him. It certainly helped us though and I’ll take it! I wish we would run at defenders and try and commit them a bit more often. What a game he had upfront.

Their penalty shout wasn’t a pen imo. Don’t think he was going to get on the end of his cut inside. He saw the opportunity to play for contact and went for it.

 

[Selly]

Why, in good green earth, would McG choose to go down when he was through on Goal.

He wasn't in the area, he wasn't going to get a penalty. He'd have been mad to go down intentionally.

It was also a red. If the player didn't bring him down he's through on goal. No one was getting to him before he could get his shot off. It's irrelevant if it was on his weaker foot.

 

[s4-blade]

I was bang in line with the mcgoldrick foul. Yes there were other defenders in line but at the speed mcgoldrick was running and the proximity he was to goal, there was no way in the world those defenders would have got around before he was through on goal. Therefore the referee and linesman (who communicated well) got it spot on.

 

[Trafford]

To clarify, I was actually referring to the incident between Duffy and their lad in our penalty area, when he was booked for diving, not Goldie.

 

[Geordie Blade]

People need to read the rules of football. The Gerrard incident was a penalty (Styles’ explanation was correct) and the red card incident today was a foul. As for the two players ‘covering’, they were five yards behind McGoldrick when he had to slow down due to the challenge. The ref got it right. The rule is pasted below, with the relevant parts in bold.


LAW 12

Direct free kick

A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:

• charges
• jumps at
• kicks or attempts to kick
• pushes
• strikes or attempts to strike (including head-butt)
• tackles or challenges
• trips or attempts to trip

For the incident with Duffy / Colbeck, I reckon that could have gone either way. Duffy didn’t need to leave his knee out, but it’s very debatable whether it was a foul.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

There's no way the Forest players would have got back if McGoldrick hadn't been fouled
Why do people always look at incidents like this and say there are covering defenders when McGoldrick is already on the floor.

If McGoldrick isn't touched, he's eight yards out and clean through.

BTW Leeds are winning already, and are already playing against 10 men, so the goal difference might suffer a bit as well here

100% correct - there were NO covering defenders - watch the fucking SKY video - they were behind McG - the contact made McG lose stride otherwise he would have got a shot away - which is denying a goal scoring opportunity.

Makes me wonder what some people watch sometimes FFS.

UTB

 

[Robby Blade]

Even if there’s was no contact there was the intention so either way it’s a foul. Ask Mike Dean

Rob Styles might know better.

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

Usually I take the moral high ground, but sadly today I don't give a shit. We won. Leeds lost. Nowt else matters!

 

[Liverpool blade]

I wasn’t at the game but have seen a replay of the incident and you can’t lunge in like that and expect the ref to do nothing!!/
Clear foul for me albeit minimal contact.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Read tomorrow’s papers, foul, red card, 2-0 win, end of story.

 

[true99blade]

McGoldrick wasn't touched, but the way Benalouane threw himself at him meant keeping his balance was nigh on impossible.